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Re: Stinson not touring thru summer, has 'Other Projects?'
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Quote from: the dirt on April 26, 2005, 05:55:29 PM
What if the Mats reunite, start touring and even decide to put out an album, and axl suddenly decides to release CD and tour?
If the Mats reunite, it will be baecausew Tommy will have left GnR and Axl would re-record his parts, as he's done w/ evryone who has departed, IMO. Again, the way Westerberg is telling it, he and Tommy are just starting to really get back into a speaking relationship, so a reunion isn't neccesarily something that will happen immediately, obviously Mr. Stinson has other things he's concetrating on now too ( second solo record, produce indie bands). I think Tommy still feels strongly towards Axl, but the evolution of his interviews and Westerberg's talking give the impression he's getting fed up. I think he'll give Rose till the end of the year while working on his other projects in the summer before he moves on to any Mats stuff.
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Re: Stinson not touring thru summer, has 'Other Projects?'
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Quote from: the dirt on April 26, 2005, 05:55:29 PM
What if the Mats reunite, start touring and even decide to put out an album, and axl suddenly decides to release CD and tour?
If the Mats reunite, it will be baecausew Tommy will have left GnR and Axl would re-record his parts, as he's done w/ evryone who has departed, IMO. Again, the way Westerberg is telling it, he and Tommy are just starting to really get back into a speaking relationship, so a reunion isn't neccesarily something that will happen immediately, obviously Mr. Stinson has other things he's concetrating on now too ( second solo record, produce indie bands). I think Tommy still feels strongly towards Axl, but the evolution of his interviews and Westerberg's talking give the impression he's getting fed up. I think he'll give Rose till the end of the year while working on his other projects in the summer before he moves on to any Mats stuff.
Where is everyone getting the inclination Tommy "is getting fed up with Axl/GnR" just because he has other side projects in the works. When he released VGH, he plainly stated he made the record in its self with Axl's blessing...How will the situation have changed differently now? I think Tommy is very much dedicated to GnR still and will be as long as he sees fit..
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How will the situation have changed differently now? I think Tommy is very much dedicated to GnR still and will be as long as he sees fit..
A Mats reunion isn't a solo village gorilla head. And that's just it; how long before he sees being dedicated to GNR as unfit?
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Speaking hypothetically,
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Stinson left GNR for whatever reason I would hope it wouldn't be another excuse not to move forward, if moving forward is even planned now. Cancelling Rock n Rio
due to BH's departure was by far one of the worst moves I've seen by new GNR to date, and as we all know there's been a lot of dumb moves to choose from.
It would undoubtedly affect Axl personally, maybe even more than it would take a way from the band musically.
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Speaking hypothetically,
if
Stinson left GNR for whatever reason I would hope it wouldn't be another excuse not to move forward, if moving forward is even planned now.?
If Stinson leaves, then 'Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further. Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months.'
(BTW I hope that Stinson won't leave.)
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Quote from: Mikkamakka on April 27, 2005, 02:51:20 AM
Quote from: Falcon on April 26, 2005, 09:52:33 PM
Speaking hypothetically,
if
Stinson left GNR for whatever reason I would hope it wouldn't be another excuse not to move forward, if moving forward is even planned now.?
If Stinson leaves, then 'Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further. Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months.'
(BTW I hope that Stinson won't leave.)
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Yeah! The best thing that could happen to this band, would be Stinsons quiting. I'd like to see what happens after that
Guns n' Roses doesnt need any fucking players, 'cause "Axl is the whole Guns n' Roses". So why would he even need Tommy
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Ha, You don't need his involvement but just your Axl album. Cute Groupies.
That would encourage Tommy to whatever project.
Yeah, What happened twice might happen three times. More spare time, Lucky for some.
I'd ponder which came first, chicken or egg, again.
Like chickens, curses come home to roost. So I hear.
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The Axl n Posers band you mean, I say Shit or get the fuck outa town ALL YA. Stinsons there to make money off the GNR name hes no fool. What a way to start a solo project, thank you Axl and we get sucked along for the ride. I guess we can wait for the big project to fall outta Slashes ass. Oh, no offence to Slash.
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How will the situation have changed differently now? I think Tommy is very much dedicated to GnR still and will be as long as he sees fit..
A Mats reunion isn't a solo village gorilla head. And that's just it; how long before he sees being dedicated to GNR as unfit?
Yes...but reunions aren't indefinately. Axl's obviously given Tommy since 2003 for his solo work, if GnRs heitus continues, I seriously doubt Axl will say no to Tommy getting back together with the Mats for a few months or a year if need be.
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The Axl n Posers band you mean, I say Shit or get the fuck outa town ALL YA. Stinsons there to make money off the GNR name hes no fool. What a way to start a solo project, thank you Axl and we get sucked along for the ride. I guess we can wait for the big project to fall outta Slashes ass. Oh, no offence to Slash.
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How will the situation have changed differently now? I think Tommy is very much dedicated to GnR still and will be as long as he sees fit..
A Mats reunion isn't a solo village gorilla head. And that's just it; how long before he sees being dedicated to GNR as unfit?
Yes...but reunions aren't indefinately. Axl's obviously given Tommy since 2003 for his solo work, if GnRs heitus continues, I seriously doubt Axl will say no to Tommy getting back together with the Mats for a few months or a year if need be.
I agree. If Axl let Richard doin' this horrendous thing with Nena that absolutely ruins Nu-GN'R's image, then I see no reason why he would nix a Replacements reunion (if GN'R is still inactive).
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If Axl let Richard doin' this horrendous thing with Nena that absolutely ruins Nu-GN'R's image
Yes, people are going crazy and calling for Richards head in the music world because Fortus is playing with Nena
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Where is everyone getting the inclination Tommy "is getting fed up with Axl/GnR" just because he has other side projects in the works. When he released VGH, he plainly stated he made the record in its self with Axl's blessing...How will the situation have changed differently now? I think Tommy is very much dedicated to GnR still and will be as long as he sees fit..
I simply base this on the interviews Tommy did for his tours back in 2003 and when VGH was first released where he kept sticking up for Axl and basically would flat out pan any idea of a Mats reunion (or working w/Paul for at all really)...that shifted in January of this year when he said he'd consider it if they offered him Pixies money, and we know he is back to some sort of collabortive relationship with Weterberg. Add in Paul's recent comments about Tommy seeing 'there's money to be made." and it paints a picture to me that Tommy has shifted as CD continues to be delayed, and he might be considering other options.
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I agree. If Axl let Richard doin' this horrendous thing with Nena that absolutely ruins Nu-GN'R's image, then I see no reason why he would nix a Replacements reunion (if GN'R is still inactive).
A Mats' reunion in and of itself would be a massive undertaking, spanning probably a year or so...Richard's current side gig is only a few months.
Again, since I haven't talked with Tommy himself or any sources for that matter, this is all conjecture on my part-I'm throwing a theory out there. But it seems highly suspect that you'd consider doing a reunion with a guy you couldn't stand up until a few months ago if something hasn't soured with your current gig.
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If Axl let Richard doin' this horrendous thing with Nena that absolutely ruins Nu-GN'R's image
Yes, people are going crazy and calling for Richards head in the music world because Fortus is playing with Nena
Alright then. I didn't know we have such a hardcore Nena-fan here. GN'R's guitarist playing as a touring musician for Nena. Cool.....
Maybe he doesn't get a dime from GN'R and he has to pay his bills... or Fortus is another Nena fan...
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Look who's talking! I don't know about Nena but about who've been trying to ruin new-GN'R's image I can guess a few.
The only theory/truth I'd cast is that music is the utmost concern of a musician. He just can?t cast behind the earthshattering music till pigs fly.
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GN'R's guitarist playing as a touring musician for Nena.
would u rather him sit home and wait for axl? Or would you rather him keep busy and not get bored/mad at Axl for this whole waiting game?
Or would you want him to play with a bigtime band, so then you can ramble about how hes done with gnr and not loyal.
The members are doing what they have to do to keep busy. Their work is done. When the bell rings, they will be there ready to tour.
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Maybe he doesn't get a dime from GN'R and he has to pay his bills... or Fortus is another Nena fan...
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GN'R's guitarist playing as a touring musician for Nena.
would u rather him sit home and wait for axl?
Yes. Playin' for Nena as a tour musician is a shame for Guns N' Roses. I'm sure his talent has some better use than this. Money can be the only reason for this tour.
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Look who's talking! I don't know about Nena but about who've been trying to ruin new-GN'R's image I can guess a few.
Please name a few.
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Yes. Playin' for Nena as a tour musician is a shame for Guns N' Roses.
Now point me to the place where they are mocking richard and or gnr because of this....
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Yes. Playin' for Nena as a tour musician is a shame for Guns N' Roses. I'm sure his talent has some better use than this. Money can be the only reason for this tour.
So? What's the problem if he wants to make some money by playing guitar?
And he gets to see Europe. Maybe places he's never seen before.
He's a professional musician, this means he's
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