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Re: Stinson not touring thru summer, has 'Other Projects?'
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Quote from: Falcon on April 22, 2005, 08:26:50 PM
Quote from: estranged.1098 on April 22, 2005, 07:35:34 PM
There is if you remember this is a Guns N' Roses forum. I think you forget about that sometimes, because you keep coming here anyway.
Not really, if you're a true fan of new GNR, you'd like to see it's members active in some way musically if GNR is dormant.
Quote from: estranged.1098 on April 22, 2005, 07:35:34 PM
You take "and start his other projects" as "Mats reunion". That's not objectivity, it's creativity. Negative creativity.
It's objective speculation, nothing more nothing less. With Westerberg and Tommy's recent collaboration it's also very obvious objective speculation, if I wouldn't have said it, someone else would have.
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Quote from: Falcon on April 22, 2005, 08:26:50 PM
Quote from: estranged.1098 on April 22, 2005, 07:35:34 PM
There is if you remember this is a Guns N' Roses forum. I think you forget about that sometimes, because you keep coming here anyway.
Not really, if you're a true fan of new GNR, you'd like to see it's members active in some way musically if GNR is dormant.
Quote from: estranged.1098 on April 22, 2005, 07:35:34 PM
You take "and start his other projects" as "Mats reunion". That's not objectivity, it's creativity. Negative creativity.
It's objective speculation, nothing more nothing less.? With Westerberg and Tommy's recent collaboration it's also very obvious objective speculation, if I wouldn't have said it, someone else would have.
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I gotta agree with ya falcon.
Really?!?
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Really?!?
yeah I do.
btw , no need to take petty "banter" from one thread to another.
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Really?!??
yeah I do.
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REALLY!?
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Really?!?
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REALLY!
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"If I dropped dead, I think that's the safest bet you could make to see all of us in one place."
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"If I dropped dead, I think that's the safest bet you could make to see all of us in one place."
just building hype for the hardcore if it
did
happen. I mean you KNOW mats fans will use that quote in
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community if it actually did happen. I think it could. Tommy has time , it seems. I mean , why
did
tommy and paul collabarate recently? why? why now? why not?
If Tommy can bury the hatchet and have time to do some Mats thing why shouldnt he?
You dont think the replacements have influenced alot of kids?
anyways , I should stop .. gnr board n all.
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"If I dropped dead, I think that's the safest bet you could make to see all of us in one place."
If/when Westerberg/Stinson ?do a reunion tour they could call it the "Dropped Dead Tour", much like the Eagles did with their "Hell Freezes Over Tour" a few years ago...
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Didn't he say If any, a reunion would obviously be for money?
Quote from: Falcon on April 22, 2005, 04:30:32 PM
"See and rasing one" is a poker term, meaning I called your hand and upped the bet. "Tin pot philosophies", meaning one's own way seeing things in a manner of overthinking, being too philisophical so to speak.
Ha, I thought you were giving an example of the subjective statement.
My post has nothing to do with shoddy philosophy. It's just as mathematical as Marylyn Jones.
Quote from: Falcon on April 22, 2005, 04:30:32 PM
Speculating on something like a 'Mats reunion in lieu of GNR's inactivity can be seen, opined or discussed in an absolute objective manner with no subjectivity whatsoever.
I might add there's another possible speculation on the launch of GNR's action in lieu of its inactivity, which can be seen, opined or discussed in an absolute objective manner without any subjectivity at all.
Any normal fan of GN'R would obviously prefer that project in q is Chinese thingy rather than a re-thingy.
However Unlike Magadas's post, your first reply, by the sound, implies denial of the other objective speculation that is more positive. Do you completely deny this?
that said, the dialogue between you and estranged was funny, I must admit.
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However Unlike Magadas's post, your first reply, by the sound, implies denial of the other objective speculation that is more positive. Do you completely deny this?
Taking selfishness out of the equation, (the presence of that would obviously cloud objectivity) I see any and all activity with Tommy as positive. Whether that be with Axl, Westerberg or Jesse Malin for that matter. With no action in the GNR camp for nearly 3 years, nothing that we know of in the near future and citing Westerberg/Stinson's recent collaboration as a basis for my original post, a 'Mats reunion was the absolute first thing I thought of in regards to Tommy's upcoming projects.
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A little more fuel to the fire. Interview with Westerberg the other day:
: Since you and [Replacements bass player] Tommy Stinson are getting along, is there a chance for a Replacements reunion?
A: We've been getting closer than we have been in years, and I think I might get together with him and do a little tape digging. . . . He and I cut a tune [for ''Elizabethtown"] with Josh Freeze on drums. I think it's a bit of a stretch to think we could involve Chris [Mars, the drummer] or Slim [Dunlap, the guitarist who replaced Stinson's brother Bob, who died of a drug overdose after leaving the band]. I don't think it's out of the question that Tommy and I might play together again. I don't know if we'd quite have the [nerve] to call it ''the Replacements." We could. Technically and legally, we are the Replacements; the other guys all sort of went down. That's something that's not going to happen right around the corner, I don't think.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2005/04/24/westerberg_is_back_with_a_band/
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A little more fuel to the fire. Interview with Westerberg the other day:
: Since you and [Replacements bass player] Tommy Stinson are getting along, is there a chance for a Replacements reunion?
A: We've been getting closer than we have been in years, and I think I might get together with him and do a little tape digging. . . . He and I cut a tune [for ''Elizabethtown"] with Josh Freeze on drums. I think it's a bit of a stretch to think we could involve Chris [Mars, the drummer] or Slim [Dunlap, the guitarist who replaced Stinson's brother Bob, who died of a drug overdose after leaving the band]. I don't think it's out of the question that Tommy and I might play together again. I don't know if we'd quite have the [nerve] to call it ''the Replacements." We could. Technically and legally, we are the Replacements; the other guys all sort of went down. That's something that's not going to happen right around the corner, I don't think.
The door is obviously still open, maybe "not right around the corner" as Westerberg said but smart money says it'll happen eventually. If GNR remains inactive for the foreseeable future, I'd bet a Mats
get together will happen more sooner than later.
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I say if nothing happens by the end of the year, you're likely to see a Mats (or something similiar) reunion in 2006. I really think Tommy will give Axl till the end of the year before he bails. Not much longer.
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Big deal - with the inactivity I do not see how he could not handle both... This is not like the old days or a pro team where you can only belong to one "gang".
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Until Axl explains to us what on earth is going on, my opinion is that CD is sounding more and more like a studio project for Axl, and tommy will continue to do his thing, and eventually move on to productive musical projects.
This isn't shocking knowing how many musicians and producers AXL has gone through over the past 10 years. The band as we THINK we know it, (Axl, tommy, Brain, Robin, Richard, Pittman) probably have not been in the same room since the 2002 tour. Over 2-1/2 years ago.
I'm sure Tommy is optimistic about GnR releasing CD and then actually touring behind it, but whenever this project comes out, we don't know who is in the band for sure.
But right now, GnR isn't a real band. It's a group of guys on Axl's payroll. I wish it wasn't like this, and I hope Axl proves me wrong.
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Tommy has the free time apparently to do stuff with Westerberg, so why not?
How long does Axl expect these guys to wait around for him? If Tommy leaves I understand why. However since Tommy put so much into GNR I think he`ll be available to Axl indefinitely provided it doesn`t interfere with anything else Tommy wants to get involved with.
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Absolutely...he still has bills to pay (at the very least)
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What if the Mats reunite, start touring and even decide to put out an album, and axl suddenly decides to release CD and tour?
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I would fear that Tommy's involvement in a Mats project would absorb a great deal of his time; if he does decide to work with Paul again, the prospects of a gnr release in 2005 would appear more remote.
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