Is Velvet Revolver an "alternative" band?

[RichardNixon]

Because STP was alternative rock. So did the GN'R guys switch over from cock-rock to alt.rock, or did Weiland make the switch?

[jgfnsr]

In the strictest sense, no.  I would never give Velvet Revolver that most horrible of all labels.

You're right though.  Stone Temple Pilots were alternative rock.  And with the same lead singer in VR, backed up by ex-Gunners, Velvet Revolver has always sounded like STP on steroids.

[RichardNixon]

Yeah, it's just a label and labels are stupid. But still, I think the merging of a singer from the alternative scence, with the GN'R guys is almost like the alternative community finally giving GN'R the ok, after years of being snubbed.

[jgfnsr]

Yeah, it's just a label and labels are stupid. But still, I think the merging of a singer from the alternative scence, with the GN'R guys is almost like the alternative community finally giving GN'R the ok, after years of being snubbed.

Many alternative bands and musicians were always closet Guns N' Roses fans despite the fact that hating GN'R was the "in thing" to do at one time.

That said, I think Scott Weiland hooking up with Slash, Duff, and Matt was more of a rare coming together between individual musicians from two different types of rock bands than a general consensus among rock styles old and new.   

[RichardNixon]

Yeah, it's just a label and labels are stupid. But still, I think the merging of a singer from the alternative scence, with the GN'R guys is almost like the alternative community finally giving GN'R the ok, after years of being snubbed.

Many alternative bands and musicians were always closet Guns N' Roses fans despite the fact that hating GN'R was the "in thing" to do at one time.

That said, I think Scott Weiland hooking up with Slash, Duff, and Matt was more of a rare coming together between individual musicians from two different types of rock bands than a general consensus among rock styles old and new.? ?

Yeah, I can imagine a room with a therapist and a bunch of guys, and someone stands up and says "hi I'm Billy Corgan, and I'm a Guns N' Roses fan." And everyone says "Hi Billy."

[Dayle1066]

I dont agree with the comment about VR sounding like STP on steroids. They have this heavy sound that sounds new but is still that classic rock thing. I would put them in the category of Hard Rock for sure.

[jgfnsr]

I dont agree with the comment about VR sounding like STP on steroids. They have this heavy sound that sounds new but is still that classic rock thing. I would put them in the category of Hard Rock for sure.

Slash and Duff certainly bring a distinctive hard-rock element to Velvet Revolver.? When I heard "Slither" for the first time I thought that would be the general sound of the band.

But when you listen to Contraband, you quickly find that Weiland's influence on their over all sound is probably greater than any of the guys backing him up.? Hence the reason VR leans closer to STP than GN'R.

[RichardNixon]

Some of the songs I think sound like STP on steroids, like "Slither," and even the balled "You Got No Right" (sounds a bit like "Sour Girl"). Other songs sound like GN'R--"Set Me Free" sounds like YCBM part II. But most of the album sounds like a mix of the two.

[Top-Hatted One]

Yeah, it's just a label and labels are stupid. But still, I think the merging of a singer from the alternative scence, with the GN'R guys is almost like the alternative community finally giving GN'R the ok, after years of being snubbed.

great point.

bottomline is STP was a rock n roll band. they just happened to come out at a time when everything was being labeled grunge/alternative which is really stupid imo

STP were really influenced by zeppelin, aerosmith, sex pistols & bowie

[RichardNixon]

I've always said that STP was the Led Zeppelin of the 90s. Great Great band.

[Eclipsed107]

STP is defiently a alt. rock band...  If you listen to their cds there's no doubt about it.

I'd say VR is a straight up hard rock band (probably more so than any other band out today...)  There's not one note pointing at anything but hard rock on Contraband.

[jgfnsr]

I've always said that STP was the Led Zeppelin of the 90s. Great Great band.

Stone Temple Pilots comparable in any way to Led Zeppelin? 

I'm speechless.   

My suggestion is that you delete that particular post and never emit such blasphemy again.

[Walapino]

Velvet Revolver is alternative alright, and i say it becuase they are an alternativo to all the crap thats being coming out lately. 

[Falcon]

Yeah, it's just a label and labels are stupid. But still, I think the merging of a singer from the alternative scence, with the GN'R guys is almost like the alternative community finally giving GN'R the ok, after years of being snubbed.

GNR's still not on any major modern rock stations playlist in the US, never have been.

As much as Weiland's presence opened that door for VR, Axl's presence and the stigma of the GNR brand name has always prevented them fom bteaking down that door.

I've always thought if GNR would have contiued a flow of original music they might have crossed over the same way Metallica did.  14 years and nothing new will probably make the snubbing continue.

[RichardNixon]

Yeah, it's just a label and labels are stupid. But still, I think the merging of a singer from the alternative scence, with the GN'R guys is almost like the alternative community finally giving GN'R the ok, after years of being snubbed.

GNR's still not on any major modern rock stations playlist in the US, never have been.

As much as Weiland's presence opened that door for VR, Axl's presence and the stigma of the GNR brand name has always prevented them fom bteaking down that door.

I've always thought if GNR would have contiued a flow of original music they might have crossed over the same way Metallica did.? 14 years and nothing new will probably make the snubbing continue.

WBCN in Boston is a modern rock/alt. station and plays GNR.

Metallica sold out. Load and Reload are hated by most metallica fans and have been forgotten.

[Falcon]

Yeah, it's just a label and labels are stupid. But still, I think the merging of a singer from the alternative scence, with the GN'R guys is almost like the alternative community finally giving GN'R the ok, after years of being snubbed.

GNR's still not on any major modern rock stations playlist in the US, never have been.

As much as Weiland's presence opened that door for VR, Axl's presence and the stigma of the GNR brand name has always prevented them fom bteaking down that door.

I've always thought if GNR would have contiued a flow of original music they might have crossed over the same way Metallica did.? 14 years and nothing new will probably make the snubbing continue.

WBCN in Boston is a modern rock/alt. station and plays GNR.

Interesting, I didn't see any GNR mention on their website nor on any of the playlists..

[RichardNixon]

In the the 90s, they never played GN'R. It was all Nirvana, Foo Fighters, L7, Veruca Salt--stuff like that. Good muisc, but all alt. modern rock. Nowadays, they play a lot of VR and some GN'R to. Remember the add to promote the GN'R show in 2002 with a clip of a new song, that aired on WBCN. WAAF in Boston has always played GN'R, but they have gone pn to embrace all that shitty nu-metal muisc, so I gave up on them.

[Falcon]

In the the 90s, they never played GN'R. It was all Nirvana, Foo Fighters, L7, Veruca Salt--stuff like that. Good muisc, but all alt. modern rock. Nowadays, they play a lot of VR and some GN'R to.

What other 80's bands are they playing?  Will they throw in the occassional Aerosmith, Ozzy or anything of that nature?

[RichardNixon]

Yeah. If your ever in Boston, I suggest WBCN. It's a good mix of modern and old school.

[Falcon]

Yeah. If your ever in Boston, I suggest WBCN. It's a good mix of modern and old school.

That 's what I thought, in the industry that type of playlist is known as "Real Rock", not a classic
rock station or a full on modern rock station.  Somewhere inbetween.