Welcome back - read this before asking

[pilferk]

Jarmo,
? ? If, suddenly (or not so suddenly, but, whatever) you found out Apple had decided to help host the fan site (fake name, fyi...just an example) weloveipods.com...but not the other thousand sites out on the net....wouldn't that make you go hmmm?? Even if Apple and the site owner SAID "there was nothing going on, that I know of"?? Considering Apple's not a web hosting company and they haven't exactly offered to host any OTHER fan sites on the net...nor has any OTHER reputable company of any size I can find??

I would go "Wow, they're hosting a web site. Nice of them." Sure I might be curious whether or not something was going on. But once you realize nothing has happened after a while, you start thinking that it was just them helping out and nothing more.


You say Sanctuary isn't a webhosting company, well you're sort of right about that. They do many things.

Copied from their website:

Web hosting

We have dedicated web servers and can cater for big and small sites alike, Costs are kept down using the economies of scale a large group can bring to bear.

Again, your right to remain tight lipped on the details.? But the "secrecy" can be taken to mean you have reason to hide something.?

Maybe I don't know anything exciting?

And you're damn skippy I ask "Why" if a large corporation, who I have an indirect relationship with, comes to me and offers to "help out" that I'd ask why.? And I think enough of you to think you would do the same.

That was a bad choice of words.

I don't see them as a large corporation, I see them as a webhost. For your information, I've been helped out before by webhosts and I didn't question why they did it.

For example, I got a really good deal from another webhost a few years ago, paid a lot less than normal customers and got lots of bandwidth. I didn't ask why they gave me this special deal, I was just glad they could help out.




/jarmo

1) Really?  You'd think that?  I find that hard to believe, actually.....it shows a certain innocence that I wouldn't expect from you.  Not that it's a bad response....just not a very realistic one, in general.  Because on the surface, at the very least, it sure looks more than a bit odd.  Hosting a site that could have a direct effect on your revenue, with no interests or editorial control whatsoever?  An "expense" that's not generating revenue and could, potentially, harm an existing revenue stream?  That doesn't sound like anything any corporation I've ever heard of would be likely to do.

2) jarmo...they host web sites for their music clients.  That's hardly a "web hosting" company. I mean, you pulled the bit from their reasons to use them as a "one stop solution". Let's be serious, ok??  Or are you suddenly taking up a recording career?  Finnish yodeling, maybe?

3) But I notice you ask "Maybe I don't know anything exciting?", rather than saying it definitively.  Again, jarmo...not exaclty giving a straight answer, notice.

4)  You may have gotten a great deal from a web host....but you know damn well it's not the same thing.  That webhost wasn't deriving, or potentially deriving, revenue from the subject matter of your site.  And you know it's not the same thing.

Anyway, I think I've said my piece, made my points.  I'll let it die now.....



I really am glad to have you back, jarmo.  Really. I do like it here...a lot.

[pilferk]

Could you spread the good word me so they can help my site too?

Just kidding!

"It's good to be back, it's good to be back, it's good to be back!" Glad to see the board's back and the conspiracy theories as well!

Yeah...I've got an EQII site that my guild runs...wonder if they'd host it for us...

[ppbebe]

Yippee! The board is back!!!

I've missed you all.

It was  looong.
I almost forget my password
and who I was here and how to post.

[GypsySoul]

Let's just say some friendly people helped out.

/jarmo

I told you why I didn't announce it. This thing is nothing new, Sanctuary have been kind enough to have been helping out for a while.
 
/jarmo

I've been "friendly" to HTGTH "for a while" now.

Haven't youze ever noticed that "for a while" now all my pic scans and article posts have HTGTH all over them??

[Eugene Klein]

Welcome back community 

[D]

conspiracy theories are fun

how bout this.

they are being nice to Jarmo helping him host the site etc

jarmo knows nothing right now but...... eventually sanctuary will ask Jarmo to be the official GNR website since GNRonline was ran so horribly.

I admit I got a little excited when i first heard of Sanctuary's involvement.

I mean when u add it up, Sanctuary is GNR's label, this is a GNR site, their record should come out at anytime, they are the only major band without a proper website

I believe Jarmo doesnt know anything right now but that doesnt mean Sanctuary doesnt have future plans.

[Christos AG]

Ok, Jarmo is a prick and he wont pay me anymore so I'll tell the truth.

Sanctuary asked if they could host the site but we didnt like the idea unless they payed us lots of money to moderate the site. Jarmo kept all the money and he'll give us (the hard working people... the moderators) nothing so here's what you wanted to know:

We know the release date but we won't tell you. 

We've heard the whole album but we won't comment on it. 

We know the exact track list but we can't reveal it. 

We know all the tour dates but we won't tell you. 

We know who Buckethead's substitute is but we won't tell you. 





























 

[Nicos]

Anyway, I think I've said my piece, made my points.? I'll let it die now.....

I would like to see Jarmo's reply to your good points Pilferk. I hope he won't grab the opportunity you offered and let it die...

Please respond Jarmo.

Bests,

N ! 3 |(
 

[Christos AG]

Anyway, I think I've said my piece, made my points.? I'll let it die now.....

I would like to see Jarmo's reply to your good points Pilferk. I hope he won't grab the opportunity you offered and let it die...

Please respond Jarmo.

Bests,

N ! 3 |(
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Jarmo made his points at the first post of this thread.

Everything else is just conspiracy theories by people who have nothing better to do...

[jarmo]

Please respond Jarmo.

Sure, here's what I've said many times over:

- Sanctuary is helping out with web hosting.

- The site is still run by me, just like it's been since 1996. The board is still run by the same people who ran it a few weeks ago.

- Nothing has changed.






/jarmo

[darknemus]

Ok, Jarmo is a prick and he wont pay me anymore so I'll tell the truth.

Sanctuary asked if they could host the site but we didnt like the idea unless they payed us lots of money to moderate the site. Jarmo kept all the money and he'll give us (the hard working people... the moderators) nothing so here's what you wanted to know:

We know the release date but we won't tell you.?

We've heard the whole album but we won't comment on it.?

We know the exact track list but we can't reveal it.?

We know all the tour dates but we won't tell you.?

We know who Buckethead's substitute is but we won't tell you.?

You might not know now, but given the synergistic relationship between the two entities (namely, HTGTH & Sanctuary) I can make a fairly safe bet that you will before the rest of us, maybe by minutes.. but hey.. thats what "you scratch my back i'll scratch yours" is all about, right?

Capitalism, its whats for dinner!

-darknemus

[Neemo]

conspiracy theories are fun

how bout this.

they are being nice to Jarmo helping him host the site etc

jarmo knows nothing right now but...... eventually sanctuary will ask Jarmo to be the official GNR website since GNRonline was ran so horribly.

I admit I got a little excited when i first heard of Sanctuary's involvement.

I mean when u add it up, Sanctuary is GNR's label, this is a GNR site, their record should come out at anytime, they are the only major band without a proper website

I believe Jarmo doesnt know anything right now but that doesnt mean Sanctuary doesnt have future plans.

I don't think so D. Check it out.

http://gunsnrosesonline.com/

Whoops, apparently it's a fan site. my bad

[Nicos]

Please respond Jarmo.

Sure, here's what I've said many times over:

- Sanctuary is helping out with web hosting.

- The site is still run by me, just like it's been since 1996. The board is still run by the same people who ran it a few weeks ago.

- Nothing has changed.

/jarmo

Thanks Jarmo.

I got af few more and hope you are so kind to answer these as well:

1. Why the sentiment about Darknemus finding out and posting it on the net? (I for example, think he/anyone deserves a compliment for that)

2. If Sanctuary would ask you to be GN'R's official site webmaster, would you do so?

Lookin' forward to your reply!

Bests,

N ! 3 |(
 

[Christos AG]

Ok, Jarmo is a prick and he wont pay me anymore so I'll tell the truth.

Sanctuary asked if they could host the site but we didnt like the idea unless they payed us lots of money to moderate the site. Jarmo kept all the money and he'll give us (the hard working people... the moderators) nothing so here's what you wanted to know:

We know the release date but we won't tell you.?

We've heard the whole album but we won't comment on it.?

We know the exact track list but we can't reveal it.?

We know all the tour dates but we won't tell you.?

We know who Buckethead's substitute is but we won't tell you.?

You might not know now, but given the synergistic relationship between the two entities (namely, HTGTH & Sanctuary) I can make a fairly safe bet that you will before the rest of us, maybe by minutes.. but hey.. thats what "you scratch my back i'll scratch yours" is all about, right?

Capitalism, its whats for dinner!

-darknemus

Go on with your conspiracy theories....

There's no secret here... I just told you we know everything but we just won't tell you...

 

[jarmo]

1. Why the sentiment about Darknemus finding out and posting it on the net? (I for example, think he/anyone deserves a compliment for that)

I disapprove the way it was announced.

Other people were decent enough to e-mail me about it without making a thread about it on one of the biggest GN'R forums.

I don't care if it's "public information". But then again, I don't feel like my webhosting is anybody else's business.

2. If Sanctuary would ask you to be GN'R's official site webmaster, would you do so?

If that would ever happen, I'd have to look at the offer and think about it.




I'm done with this subject. I've said all that needs to be said over and over again. Either you're happy to have the board back or you're not.

For those of you who still don't get it: Nothing has changed.


Enjoy the new faster board! I know I am.




/jarmo