how would you feel IF buckethead's parts DO stay but Buckethead stays OUT

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

i keep thinking about what's going on behind the scenes
what if what tommy said last year hasn't changed
and buckethead's parts remain on the new music
but buckethead does not return (which to date seems to be the case)
forget how they will play the parts live or if they are re-recording them with another guitarist etc.
regardless of how they play the parts live or if buckethead's parts are re-recorded by another guitarist
they will still be BUCKETHEAD'S PARTS

how would you feel about this?

please - this is not another "who is going to replace buckethead" or "are they keeping buckethead's parts" thread
there are COUNTLESS threads like that

for this thread we assume the following:
1) Buckethead is not/does not return to the GN'R lineup
2) Bucketheads parts remain on CD (and any followups) whether they are his original recordings or re-recordings
3) These parts are presented live (whether they are done by another guitarist or pre-recorded/programmed in)

how would you feel about this?

and YES we know we all "just want the album"...? ?but would you prefer with or without Buckethead's parts under these circumstances (him not ever being in GN'R again)




My thoughts have been:? Damn, it would be so great to hear what Buckethead contributed while in GN'R

BUT....

we have enough 'ghosts' on stage with GN'R don't we??

[Saul]

I for one hope to high hell Buckets parts stay on the album. I would be very disapointed for B if his 3 plus years of work isnt used. If the guy doesnt want to be in the band anymore then thats fine .. he has reasons. But the fact remains that he DID want to be a part of this album and the music and worked very hard to record music for Axl & Co.

Theres elements of his playing style that I've heard on some new songs , Rhiad for example features one passage of of tapping thats just classic Buckethead.. theres no mistaking it , as a B fan you just identify it with Bucket. I dunno how they will reproduce that live.

Buckethead has written some things on his solo albums that I simply adore , to the point of if he has put down stuff for democracy even half as good as some of the things you can hear on colma , electric tears , population overirde (just to name a few) then leaving his work off the album would be an injustice to B , to the album and too us , the fans.

Now I dont wanna swerve off topic eva , but if you dont mind let me say this .. not only will/would I miss hearing what Bucket could have brought to the album but I WILL really miss what Buckethead brings to the "cast" of GNR .. the visuals. It's a shame he wont be involved in the press with GNR .. seeing him and axl doing photoshoots! Videos! Interviews with herbie .... *sigh* ... I dont know why it fell apart but I wish there was a way to mend the bridges and bring Buckethead and Axl back together again.

[madagas]

After seeing two Bucket live solo shows, I want him on the record. The guy can simply do it all. Axl has gone through so many musicians at this point that it really doesn't matter. Finck was in then out then in, Tobias, Fortus, Bucket, Freese, Brain-what the fuck, it is Axl's album. If Bucket's parts are good, they should stay. I would hate to see some real incredible stuff erased. As far as playing live, I don't care if it sounds just like the record. I like live shows that mix it up. Hearing the songs played the same way as the record is just boring to me. You don't need all the studio musicians to be in the live band. Good examples of this are NIN and Wilco. The MOST IMPORTANT thing is to make a great record THEN figure out how you want to present it live.

[ppbebe]

My reply on this must be so pissing predictable, but Hell Yay!!!!! I would be very happy.

Everything is for music. Music must rule. When it fits for the sounds, it should be there. Art for art's sake.
Tommy said it's 8 men's work.

 (off topic, I second Saul! Come back Mr. bucket you chicken!! Boo!!! )

[willow]

I would like to see his parts remain, even if they re-record them with another guitarist. Axl was looking for a sound and Bucket must have been able to give that or he would have been ask to leave long ago.
On the other hand it isn't very fair to the possible replacement.
I just hope that Axl doesn't go in and totally change everything because of Bucket. I like Buckets sound, but it doesn't sound like he fit in very well, on a personal level. If that is the case it is better that he left when he did, then waiting tell the middle of a world tour. I am confident that whoever gets the part is worthy of it! Can't wait to here who it is!!!

[Mikkamakka]

Since there is a chance that we'll (will? ) hear even Josh Freese on CD, there is a chance that we'll hear BH, too. BTW as someone mentioned earlier (I don't remember that if it turned out to be fake) that he/she 'met the man who wrote the song Chinese Democracy', and it was Freese. Is it true that Freese wrote the song? It'd be strange if any on the tracks on the 'forthcoming' album were written by someone who's out of the band for 5+ years. And it'll be the title track... 

[Buddha_Master]

Bucket's shit better be all over CD. How would I feel? Fuckin hardcore .

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I hope t hey keep his stuff because he is such a amazing guitarist. The songs wont be as good if he is not on them . I want the songs to be the best they can be, and see what Axls vision really is, because when Axl made the new band he had BH in mind, thus his parts i hope will still be on t here.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

thanksfor sharing your thoughts guys?

Now I dont wanna swerve off topic eva , but if you dont mind let me say this .. not only will/would I miss hearing what Bucket could have brought to the album but I WILL really miss what Buckethead brings to the "cast" of GNR .. the visuals. It's a shame he wont be involved in the press with GNR .. seeing him and axl doing photoshoots! Videos! Interviews with herbie .... *sigh* ... I dont know why it fell apart but I wish there was a way to mend the bridges and bring Buckethead and Axl back together again.

no you're not 'off topic'...? the things you mention here... not being involved in GN'R press, interviews, promo shots or videos....that's all part of not being in the band.

and that's what we gotta realize/ keep in mind..? ?
all we will have is his parts on CD...

which I guess I could consider accepting like UYIs sans Adler & Stradlin... (Adler not recording drums except for Civil War and Izzy not being part of the band afterwards)
but because, as you mention, he has such a 'signature sound'... i really don't know how i will feel if his 'signature sound' is heavily featured on the album... the album which will define who GN'R is.

i'm not sure...
you all make good points about his parts remaining...
i just wonder if anyone else has thought like i'm thinking?

[killingvector]

Buckethead leaving GnR was a very dark day for me. I hope we can hear his parts but it will be a sad reminder of what could have been.

[shaun]

If they cut out all BH's parts or have someone else simply cover what BH input'ed into CD then that would be plain awful.

[Dok]

I'm glad he's out. That guy is a very talented guitar player but he's a freak and in no way a rock n' roller. As far as his work on CD is concerned I don't care if it remains there or if it's re-recorded. Don't think it'll be dropped.

[KeVoRkIaN]

Hope it stays, wish he would have.......

[Twisted Nerve 85]

For some reason a three guitarist band really doesnt sit well with me. Neither does having his parts in and not having him in the band. But then again they did it with Izzy on the UYI cd's.

So maybe Axl will or has hired someone to play Bucketheads parts. But to be honest I wouldnt care either way, unless of course I was Buckethead ?

[Falcon]

Not sure how I feel about this, I'm seeing BH live next month and I'm sure I'll have a better educated answer then.

Until then, I guess it makes no difference, just whatever scenario leads the redhead to letting go of the record quicker...

[*Izzy*]

but because, as you mention, he has such a 'signature sound'... i really don't know how i will feel if his 'signature sound' is heavily featured on the album... the album which will define who GN'R is.

I agree that BH has a style of his own, the last thng I want to see is Axl hiring someone to redo BH's parts in BH's style but maybey if they did it in their own style it'd be okay, it will be hard to find someone to redo the nunchuk thing though ?

For some reason a three guitarist band really doesnt sit well with me.

Yeah, I'd prefer just a Rhythm and a lead guitarist?

  Izzy ?

[Cowboy Buddha]

i keep thinking about what's going on behind the scenes
what if what tommy said last year hasn't changed
and buckethead's parts remain on the new music
but buckethead does not return (which to date seems to be the case)
forget how they will play the parts live or if they are re-recording them with another guitarist etc.
regardless of how they play the parts live or if buckethead's parts are re-recorded by another guitarist
they will still be BUCKETHEAD'S PARTS

how would you feel about this?

please - this is not another "who is going to replace buckethead" or "are they keeping buckethead's parts" thread
there are COUNTLESS threads like that

for this thread we assume the following:
1) Buckethead is not/does not return to the GN'R lineup
2) Bucketheads parts remain on CD (and any followups) whether they are his original recordings or re-recordings
3) These parts are presented live (whether they are done by another guitarist or pre-recorded/programmed in)

how would you feel about this?

and YES we know we all "just want the album"...   but would you prefer with or without Buckethead's parts under these circumstances (him not ever being in GN'R again)




My thoughts have been:  Damn, it would be so great to hear what Buckethead contributed while in GN'R

BUT....

we have enough 'ghosts' on stage with GN'R don't we? 

I kinda indiffer in all three questions.  I just want the band to come tour again and to release the album. 

[hyperionmax2003]

As long as they give him credit, I don't have a problem with keeping Buckethead's work on the album and ditching him.  He's been paid, but if they keep his work on the songs, he deserves the acknowledgements

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

As long as they give him credit, I don't have a problem with keeping Buckethead's work on the album and ditching him.? He's been paid, but if they keep his work on the songs, he deserves the acknowledgements

oh definitely... he'll be credited for his compostions and/or performances on CD if they are to remain

some interesting views


edited to include:

I agree that BH has a style of his own, the last thng I want to see is Axl hiring someone to redo BH's parts in BH's style but maybey if they did it in their own style it'd be okay, it will be hard to find someone to redo the nunchuk thing though 

that's a thought... hm.  i guess the way matt's style was different than steven's... matt playing in his 'style' on UYI parts he did not compose



guess i'll have to be prepared for whatever will be...

its just going to be so wierd hearing him on CD, especially if his sound is prevalent, and then him not being in the band.?

[blasphemer]

I wouldnt be surprised if his parts were left on the record. For the mere fact that I believe he will be in the band and tour with them.  Say what you want but its my opinion.    U can quote me on this too.