Tom Zutaut letter in NY Times

[chineseilusions]

I think it's cool and kinda weird that some people want to stand up for Axl all of a sudden in a public way it makes me wonder if they don't know somthing and they know it's on the way and want to get on Axl's good side before the ride starts.

Hah, I liked what you said, it is weird all of the sudden Zutaut wants to jump on board the gravy train.? Axl has got something real good, and all the people that felt like they have gotten screwed in the past because they wanted what they wanted when they wanted it, But uncle Axl wasnt haven it.? He does things his way and in his time, but to think that Zutaut is congradulating him now, for having the balls that he wishes he could have have, is a shisty thing to do.? I believe Axl his shurely winning this round, and the higher ups are doing exactly that, trying to promote themselves up to Axl's level by putting out there dirty corruptible little hands out to Axl, saying thank you for being you, thank you for not listening to us ass clowns.? Thank you............Well I would think Axl just laughs, and he is not going to forgive and forget.? If you talk about Axl, Ive heard he could give to shits about you after the fact........but thanks for being a good PR guy, and yeah jump on the bandwagon, cause axl is in it for the long haul,? Mr. Zutaut needs to quit living in the past like adler is, as much as I love em, hes through and saying some good words for Axl is not going to bring him back into the fold.

Yeah the reason that it struck me as weird is that over all the years and negative press that Axl has been getting there has been plenty of chances for the people to come to his defense but did they?No but now that the rumours have started back up and this is my reason for believing somthing is bound to happen "soon" (I hate that word!)all jokes aside I believe it won't be too much longer.

[ppbebe]

How can you condemn that as nonsense and ridiculous?

Because it is, it a false statement regarding Axl's feeling about the press.

You just failed to understand my post or it was rather deliberate?
I hate to post the same shits.

Axl Rose does, he's proved it over and over , rant after rant.  Hell, he wrote a song about it.
See "Get In The Ring".

Of course he cares what his fans might think of him. Music is a way to communicate and he is a musician.

Merck is not saying Axl doesn't care how the press give the wrong impression about him on people like you.
See the following that is one of the consequences. Example is better than prospects.

Has anyone ever used Axl Rose and sensible in the same sentence?

I didn't think so.

You did.  I said anyone sensible would care how naive and innocent people are misled by the press.
I didn't type Axl Rose in that sentence. OK, then Axl Rose is the sensible one.

All merck says there is that Axl doesn't give a fuck whatever in some journalist's little mind.

W, Axl Rose is not interested in fame, money, popularity or what the New York Times or any other paper for that matter might think of him.
- Merck Mercuriadis

In other words, "publish and be damned!!!".

[Twisted Nerve 85]

I applaude Zutaut for coming out and expressing his support for Axl.

Especially after all the shit Axl has probably put him through in the last 10 yrs with this fucking Chinese Democracy album 

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

Sounds to me like Tom Zutaut wasn't happy with the article the ran a couple of weeks ago and decided to express his feelings about Axl. ? Good for Tom

that was my first thought upon reading the article.


and ppbebe... you make a very good point and distinction ?

"you be ripping off the kids who pay thier hard earned money to read about the bands they wanna know about...
printing lies... starting controversy.... ?"

axl doesn't care what writers like leeds think of him... like mick wall & bob guiccione jr...
they can "suck (his) ass"

he does care what lies and half truths are fed to the unwitting fans...
and it does piss him off to be unfairly portrayed to those he cares about... his fans (among others)

[noizzynofuture]

? Whether you consider him to be a musical genius on hold, a poster child for the misunderstood, or a narcissist, all of his actions are motivated by a pure desire to make every recording count as a true reflection of his own high standards.

In other words, don't ask why this has taken so long.

In a sea of musical mediocrity and generic voices processed into greatness by computers, Axl Rose achieved the American dream in music without compromising his integrity for the sake of fame or fortune.? I am sure that Axl's new Guns N' Roses will impact popular culture with the same vigor and vitality that made "Appetite for Destruction" a part of musical history.

Keeping his options open for the future, just in case axl's "new guns and roses" hits it big.

[Falcon]

All merck says there is that Axl doesn't give a fuck whatever in some journalist's little mind.

If you beleive Axl doesn't care, fine.  More power to you.

His actions and words over the years prove otherwise.

[estranged.1098]

No, ppbebe made it pretty clear that Axl cares, but about something else and not what the journalists thinks of him.

[providman]

Isn't this the same guy who Merck, splat, & the rest of the usual suspects dismissed as being an out of the loop, has-been ex employee, etc... when his quotes were used in the NYTimes article?

Also, what exactly is he saying in this letter. When did anyone ever say he's motivated purely by money? Ever hear the phrase "whatever you do, don't think about a pink elephant"?

Meh, whatever. More words. More empty, hollow, words that mean nothing but somehow make people puff out their chests like they've some how been vindicated.

[Falcon]

No, ppbebe made it pretty clear that Axl cares, but about something else and not what the journalists thinks of him.

Again, fine.

I believe otherwise.

[estranged.1098]

You still don't see the difference, do you?

Whatever.

[Falcon]

You still don't see the difference, do you?

Whatever.

My premise is Axl Rose cares big time about what the press says and thinks of him whereas Mercks statement paints a different picture.

What difference are you referring to?

[SLCPUNK]

its delayed to 2006?

Buddy...it ain't here yet...whadda you think?

[Cowboy Buddha]

Im sorry but who's Tom Zutaut?

[estranged.1098]

You still don't see the difference, do you?

Whatever.

My premise is Axl Rose cares big time about what the press says and thinks of him whereas Mercks statement paints a different picture.

What difference are you referring to?

ppbebe says = Axl cares about what the press says about him to his fans

That's different than caring for what the press thinks of him.

For example, you could care less what I think of you but if I were to start spreading lies about you to the world you would care, and you would have a problem with it. Anyone would.

[Falcon]

You still don't see the difference, do you?

Whatever.

My premise is Axl Rose cares big time about what the press says and thinks of him whereas Mercks statement paints a different picture.

What difference are you referring to?

ppbebe says = Axl cares about what the press says about him to his fans

That's different than caring for what the press thinks of him.

For example, you could care less what I think of you but if I were to start spreading lies about you to the world you would care, and you would have a problem with it. Anyone would.

Understood. 

However, I believe Axl cares very much what the press thinks of him personally and not just how he's portrayed by the media to his fans.

He takes negative comments to heart and holds grudges accordingly, while enjoying the praise as well.

[jemin]

? Whether you consider him to be a musical genius on hold, a poster child for the misunderstood, or a narcissist, all of his actions are motivated by a pure desire to make every recording count as a true reflection of his own high standards.

In other words, don't ask why this has taken so long.

In a sea of musical mediocrity and generic voices processed into greatness by computers, Axl Rose achieved the American dream in music without compromising his integrity for the sake of fame or fortune.? I am sure that Axl's new Guns N' Roses will impact popular culture with the same vigor and vitality that made "Appetite for Destruction" a part of musical history.

Keeping his options open for the future, just in case axl's "new guns and roses" hits it big.

How is Zutaut keeping his options open?  It's not like he is going to get back into the fold of GNR.  He may just feel he was not quoted properly and decided to clear the air!  It would be pretty stupid of him to think that if he says good things about Axl in the press he will be back in good graces with him again.  It is also stupid for anyone to suggest that is what his motivation is.

[the_guitar_poet]

He's just another Axl ass kisser that thinks it was Axl that made GN'R,I hate people that think that,everyone know they're full of shit,it was all the guys in GN'R,Axl,Slash,Duff,Izzy,and Steven.

[PhillyRiot]

Okay so now we have a 2nd letter to the NY Times from Axl's camp.  I find it all  very uninteresting.  Merck and Zutaut should concentrate more on throwing the die hard GNR fans a freakin bone, instead of writing these letters to the Times.  I am hungry for real news. 

[VeryHardToPlease]

Okay so now we have a 2nd letter to the NY Times from Axl's camp.  I find it all  very uninteresting.  Merck and Zutaut should concentrate more on throwing the die hard GNR fans a freakin bone, instead of writing these letters to the Times.  I am hungry for real news. 

True this letter was no info just some friendly words about Axl and defending the first article, which is really cool.   I hold Merck in high regard and when he stated in his letter that 2005 is going to be Axl's year, I sincerely hope it's true.   With that said, Mercks letter was also written in Axl's defense and nothing official.  As usual we will just have to wait and see.

[gnrkoncerti]

that's nothing new
i have talked that for a years
that's the fact,axl haven't made music for money!!!!
because if he want a money,he would realised chinese democracy before 3-4 yers,album would sold in 5-6 milions copies (less) in the world,he made a big tour,and earned 20 milion dollars