Axl-Zeppelin

[greekmule]

Sure enough, absurd is your superficial interpretation beside the whole point.
Neither mack10 nor me are talking about their musical similarities here.
While Mack's point being Axl's or Merck's serious attitude toward music bears comparison with that of Zeppelin, I suggested the forth guitarist of The Yard birds was the heart, soul and passion of the band in question, whatever the name was. It's an example of that The sound mind gets the sound body. He produced all of their albums. Check out credits on the records.

New GN'R songs argue the musical diversity of GN'R not to be in the same league with that of Led Zeppelin. In my books, no other band ranges over as wide as new GN'R. Who can argue that.

there are indeed some similarities between Led Zep and nuGnr...
There's a big difference though. Led Zep has actually released some records, i mean is that so hard to  understand?

I'm not talking from such a mine-is-bigger-than-yours point of view.
There're many individuals who haven't been influenced or impressed by Led Zeppelin.
There will be many individuals who'd be influenced and moved by GN'R.
Music is one to one talk. You hear it with your own ears not with others ears.
Make sure you listen to the music rather than what others say about it.

I agree with that. For example imo AFD is better than anything Led Zep has ever released!
Maybe i will like nugnr even more. But first they have to release something

just my 0.02

[Elrothiel]

Methinks everyone's taking this a leeeeettle too seriously!! Mack10 wasn't comparing Gn'R to Led Zep, he was merely saying that Gn'R could become to us what Led Zep was to our parents! (that's if you're my age... being 18 is shit nowadays! I wish I'd been 18 in 1987!).
No one is comparing the Gn'R musicians' abilities to the Led Zep musicians' abilities! No one is saying "Look! Slash is better than Jimmy Page!" or "Brain is way better than John Bonham!"
Yes, Led Zeppelin are legendary! But so are Gn'R, and the creative force behind it is still going, so who knows what's going to happen!! No one is saying "Chinese Democracy will be better than anything Led Zeppelin ever did!" no one's saying that at all! Led Zeppelin are amazing, but if ChiDem is really that good, then roll on the good times! They say 1975 was the best year to be young? Well lets hope Axl makes 2005 the best year to be young! He already made a good contender for 1975 with 1987.
WE WANT CHIDEM!!! GIVE US CHIDEM AXL!!!!

To Axl (if he a: reads this and b: cares)
Hey man! Stop sitting around worrying about whether or not we're going to like it! Release it!! Its not like we won't buy it anyway! Sure there's internet piracy and shit like that, but who won't give up a chance to own Chinese Democracy? Its been in the making for yeeeeeaaaarss, and it already has enough controversiality, so just release it!!! I'm not going to be one of those shy mincing wimpy people who are too worried about how you'll feel if they tell you to release it, I'm just telling you "Release it, or give it a NON-DELAYED release date at LEAST!!!" If you're THAT worried about it, then just psyche yourself up for it! Just fucking release it, and then do a world tour! Its been a while, hasn't it... Come on, release it...you know you want to. Just pick up the album... take it to Geffen... say "Its ready"... walk out... and voila! Done! And then you can start work on a new one!

[jabba2]

Yes, Led Zeppelin are legendary! But so are Gn'R, and the creative force behind it is still going, so who knows what's going to happen!!

The current GNR member is the creative force behind piano ballads. Anything else besides singing you should give credit to the rest of GNR, because they are the creative force of GNR. Axl had ideas on what he wants the band to sound like, but he doesnt write music. Buckethead writes guitar riffs, Stinson does the Bass, Dizzy writes for his own keyboard. Pittman does sound effects. None of it is written by Axl.

[Crowebar]

None of it is written by Axl.

This is by far, the most completely absurd thing I have honestly ever seen posted on this board yet.

Wake up and smell the coffee burning man.

[jabba2]

This is by far, the most completely absurd thing I have honestly ever seen posted on this board yet.

Wake up and smell the coffee burning man.

Axl doesnt write the music man. Every bandmember has said they are allowed to play whatever, just so it fits in the song structure they're working on - which usually are guitar riffs supplied by people in and out the group over years of sessions. Axl does not take part in the song process besides the vocal melodies/lyrics.

[Crowebar]

This is by far, the most completely absurd thing I have honestly ever seen posted on this board yet.

Wake up and smell the coffee burning man.

Axl doesnt write the music man. Every bandmember has said they are allowed to play whatever, just so it fits in the song structure they're working on - which usually are guitar riffs supplied by people in and out the group over years of sessions. Axl does not take part in the song process besides the vocal melodies/lyrics.

How the FUCK would you know that??

Were you there??

I didn't think so.....

[disease51883]

Yeah, I've thought about the GNR/Led Zeppelin connection before. And the Merk/Grant connection. I fart that kinda crap out all the time though, and never think anything of it. I expect Chinese Democracy to be a little more Zeppelin-esque than the old stuff, but I think Axl was always a little more Zeppelin-esque than the old members and their Aerosmith-ness... These words are great... 

[ppbebe]

Axl doesnt write the music man. Every bandmember has said they are allowed to play whatever, just so it fits in the song structure they're working on - which usually are guitar riffs supplied by people in and out the group over years of sessions. Axl does not take part in the song process besides the vocal melodies/lyrics.

Yeah, That's as may be, but vocal melody is a part of music no less. It carries the subject of the piece, which plays a vital role. The last, but not the least. Like The Speaker is not supposed to take the floor without leaving the chair.
Anyway thanks god it's nowhere near a one man show. That makes the band function properly. 

Led Zep has actually released some records, i mean is that so hard to  understand?

Well, It must be very hard to understand that the posts aimed at that subject belong to the Frustration thread in the Dead horse section. I don't think.

Anyway, I'm happy to hear your view on the band.
Still there are old school The Yardbirds fans grunting about Jimmy Page, while the majority hasn't heard of a song off the band in which Zep had its origin. I was the latter until quite recently and am never the former obviously.

Here a question arises. 
Dear Naysayers, sure it's just a parable now, but are you sure you don't want to see it happen?

[coldenim]

   Thanks guys/gals for your generous feedback and replies, I thought it would make for an interesting discussion,and it did.  History will repeat itself and maybe its illustrious past will historically find its way back, and I personally believe Axl will arrive
when its time to sweep the kitchen so to speak, getting everything intact inorder to unravel the mystery of what a magical album used to be and what it can be in today's world.

Yeah, I've thought about the GNR/Led Zeppelin connection before. And the Merk/Grant connection. I fart that kinda crap out all the time though, and never think anything of it. I expect Chinese Democracy to be a little more Zeppelin-esque than the old stuff, but I think Axl was always a little more Zeppelin-esque than the old members and their Aerosmith-ness... These words are great...?

Yeah as for disease 51883, thank you for responding as well, I am glad we as fans can be on the same page, and I fart/think about those things everday as well, its a normal occurrence I think in every fans life to think about the similarities and differences of two bands that have had a profound effect on them, which in turn is why I decided to bring up the subject inorder to get feed back, you know find a subject we could all relate too and talk about, because message boards are fun, and yes your words were great. 

[disease51883]

I'm glad someone else finally realizes that. I need to get a hold of the people at Webster's and try to get "Zeppelin-esque" in there.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

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I think Axl was always a little more Zeppelin-esque than the old members and their Aerosmith-ness... These words are great...?

haha!  Awesome.   

Yeah as for disease 51883, thank you for responding as well, I am glad we as fans can be on the same page, and I fart/think about those things everday as well, its a normal occurrence I think in every fans life to think about the similarities and differences of two bands that have had a profound effect on them, which in turn is why I decided to bring up the subject inorder to get feed back, you know find a subject we could all relate too and talk about, because message boards are fun, and yes your words were great.?

I catch myself doing that all the time when reading about other bands and artists.  Most recenty in reading Billy Joe Armstrong's comments (in RS) about how the band members were growing apart and how he had a lot of trouble coming to them with his new song/musical direction ideas.    Also recently reading another great piece in RS on Bob Marley I had to think immediately of GN'R when Chris Blackwell said how he was warned not to deal with the Wailers because they had a really bad reputation for having a really bad attitude...   (both great pieces, suprisingly, in the last 2 RS issues)




As for the comments in this thread about Axl's lack of musical contribution to GN'R... 
The most recognizable aspect of a song is its MELODY.
Take away the melody and it's guitarists and rythum section jammin'...
some really cool jammin'... but not a song IMHO.