Merck writes a letter to the NY Times

[RICHEY]

FUCK AXL,FUCK HIS FAKE LAME ASS BAND,AND FUCK THIS BOARD.I'am done with all this bullshit. Your favorite band should bring you joy, should make you feel alive.....NOT DRAIN YOUR FUCKING SOUL!Coming here and seeing adults act like retards night after night is so depressing I want to put my fist through the screen.The man has no intention of ever giving you CD so GET THE FUCK OVER IT AND MOVE ON!

[Warren]

FUCK AXL,FUCK HIS FAKE LAME ASS BAND,AND FUCK THIS BOARD.I'am done with all this bullshit. Your favorite band should bring you joy, should make you feel alive.....NOT DRAIN YOUR FUCKING SOUL!Coming here and seeing adults act like retards night after night is so depressing I want to put my fist through the screen.The man has no intention of ever giving you CD so GET THE FUCK OVER IT AND MOVE ON!

 

[Saul]

FUCK AXL,FUCK HIS FAKE LAME ASS BAND,AND FUCK THIS BOARD.I'am done with all this bullshit. Your favorite band should bring you joy, should make you feel alive.....NOT DRAIN YOUR FUCKING SOUL!Coming here and seeing adults act like retards night after night is so depressing I want to put my fist through the screen.The man has no intention of ever giving you CD so GET THE FUCK OVER IT AND MOVE ON!

 

emoticon only replies are frowned upon by the moderation here. 

You know , like that guy I would also "move on" but knowing my luck I would leave and the very next day an announcement would happen and I would miss it. 

[erose]

FUCK AXL,FUCK HIS FAKE LAME ASS BAND,AND FUCK THIS BOARD.I'am done with all this bullshit. Your favorite band should bring you joy, should make you feel alive.....NOT DRAIN YOUR FUCKING SOUL!Coming here and seeing adults act like retards night after night is so depressing I want to put my fist through the screen.The man has no intention of ever giving you CD so GET THE FUCK OVER IT AND MOVE ON!

 

emoticon only replies are frowned upon by the moderation here.

You know , like that guy I would also "move on" but knowing my luck I would leave and the very next day an announcement would happen and I would miss it.

Be nice to the rest of us then and take off, an announcement tomorrow would be nice! At least i would have a legit excuse to postpone my law exame with six months, that is if cd comes out i mean eh... 

[Saul]

FUCK AXL,FUCK HIS FAKE LAME ASS BAND,AND FUCK THIS BOARD.I'am done with all this bullshit. Your favorite band should bring you joy, should make you feel alive.....NOT DRAIN YOUR FUCKING SOUL!Coming here and seeing adults act like retards night after night is so depressing I want to put my fist through the screen.The man has no intention of ever giving you CD so GET THE FUCK OVER IT AND MOVE ON!

 

emoticon only replies are frowned upon by the moderation here.

You know , like that guy I would also "move on" but knowing my luck I would leave and the very next day an announcement would happen and I would miss it.

Be nice to the rest of us then and take off, an announcement tomorrow would be nice! At least i would have a legit excuse to postpone my law exame with six months, that is if cd comes out i mean eh... 

  But I dont wanna miss it. 

p.s. , good luck with that law exam! 

[ppbebe]

At least i would have a legit excuse to postpone my law exame with six months, that is if cd comes out i mean eh... 

Do you call it a legit excuse......

Good luck, mate.

[sandman]

i don't take anything a management company says seriously.

they are paid to say good things about their client. ?so you're not exaqctly getting an unbiased opinion there.

[erose]

thanks guys, i need all the luck i can get lol!

I guess i wouldn't really call it a legit excuse and it's not very likely to happen before may 9. anyway so, but when CD finally comes i think i will take some serious time off to just stay home, smoke lots and lots of weed and listen to cd untill my ears bleed!

If i don't see CD before i become(hopefully) a lawyer i'll use my position to sue Axl's ass off! And maybe slash's to just to meet him eh..

on topic:

i don't take anything a management company says seriously.

they are paid to say good things about their client.  so you're not exaqctly getting an unbiased opinion there.

to this i can agree, although i wouldn't automaticly call it a lie eighter.. i guess we have to take all thats said with a grain of salt even when it comes from axl and slash...

[ppbebe]

i don't take anything a management company says seriously.

they are paid to say good things about their client.  so you're not exaqctly getting an unbiased opinion there.

to this i can agree, although i wouldn't automaticly call it a lie eighter.. i guess we have to take all thats said with a grain of salt even when it comes from axl and slash...

Ditto. but I don't think a management company necessary says good things only for the client's sake. They have to say things to save their own ass as well, which, I think, is right of them.
in this case, they haven't righted the imbalance yet.
I wonder if it's Merck's decision or Axl's.

[John Daniels]

FUCK AXL,FUCK HIS FAKE LAME ASS BAND,AND FUCK THIS BOARD......NOT DRAIN YOUR FUCKING SOUL!Coming here and seeing adults act like retards night after night is so depressing.. GET THE FUCK OVER

you are talking about retards..why don't you start with your post and then come to tell who's retard and who's not.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

FUCK AXL,FUCK HIS FAKE LAME ASS BAND,AND FUCK THIS BOARD.I'am done with all this bullshit. Your favorite band should bring you joy, should make you feel alive.....NOT DRAIN YOUR FUCKING SOUL!Coming here and seeing adults act like retards night after night is so depressing I want to put my fist through the screen.The man has no intention of ever giving you CD so GET THE FUCK OVER IT AND MOVE ON!

 

getting a bit testy, no?

my point was that it is not dissapointing to hear management making complimentary comments about the band.
and as far as what management 'has to' say..   truth is they don't have to say a thing
merck's including "2005" as the year of reckoning (so to speak) on 2 seperate occasions in particular... thats likely something he'll be 'called on' if the album does not marerialize as he expects... so in a way he is going out on a limb... sticking his neck out... his reputation on the line, no?  Even more so reason he could have considered not saying anything at all...
yet he did make the statements AND mark this year.  I wonder if some would prefer he said nothing?  What would that indicate?  That he is out of the loop or not encouraging his client's return perhaps.  That wouldn't be good IMO.  I prefer to hear Merck staking his reputation etc.  Doesn't make him the feared 'yes' man by any means.  Eventually we will see on what his comments were based.  Til then, yes - as always - nothing is gospel/set in stone etc.  Doesn't mean he is not a position to have his expectations set though.  And doesn't mean its wrong for him to share those with us.  We could go back a couple years in time and be amidst silence, no?  To whom would this be preferable?   

[Scabbie]

my point was that it is not dissapointing to hear management making complimentary comments about the band.
and as far as what management 'has to' say..? ?truth is they don't have to say a thing
merck's including "2005" as the year of reckoning (so to speak) on 2 seperate occasions in particular... thats likely something he'll be 'called on' if the album does not marerialize as he expects... so in a way he is going out on a limb... sticking his neck out... his reputation on the line, no?? Even more so reason he could have considered not saying anything at all...
yet he did make the statements AND mark this year.? I wonder if some would prefer he said nothing?? What would that indicate?? That he is out of the loop or not encouraging his client's return perhaps.? That wouldn't be good IMO.? I prefer to hear Merck staking his reputation etc.? Doesn't make him the feared 'yes' man by any means.? Eventually we will see on what his comments were based.? Til then, yes - as always - nothing is gospel/set in stone etc.? Doesn't mean he is not a position to have his expectations set though.? And doesn't mean its wrong for him to share those with us.? We could go back a couple years in time and be amidst silence, no?? To whom would this be preferable?? ?

He's not 'sticking his neck out' that much in a commercial sense, its not like he's gonna lose his job if Axl doesn't pull through. The way I see it, if Axl releases and the album is a great success then Merck comes out of this smelling of Roses (sorry for the pun). If he doesn't, well he always has other high profile bands on his roster to fall back on.

Merck is managing a portfolio of artists, some reliable, trustworthy and good earners for Sanctuary. Others (e.g. Axl) are his high risk / return investments that could fail, but balanced with other acts and risk mitigation exercises (e.g. the back catalogue publishing deals) provide a  means of creating a decent return for Sanctuary.

As for the fans though, I believe he is providing some reassurance although I wish he would stick his neck out a little more...

[ppbebe]

He's not 'sticking his neck out' that much in a commercial sense, its not like he's gonna lose his job if Axl doesn't pull through. The way I see it, if Axl releases and the album is a great success then Merck comes out of this smelling of Roses (sorry for the pun). If he doesn't, well he always has other high profile bands on his roster to fall back on.

Merck is managing a portfolio of artists, some reliable, trustworthy and good earners for Sanctuary. Others (e.g. Axl) are his high risk / return investments that could fail, but balanced with other acts and risk mitigation exercises (e.g. the back catalogue publishing deals) provide a  means of creating a decent return for Sanctuary.

As for the fans though, I believe he is providing some reassurance although I wish he would stick his neck out a little more...

Yep, Scabbie.
Still a company is obliged to stem the tide of every potential damage, even just a temporal one, to its reputation by prompt action. It's their responsibility.

I'm not talking about the letter written for GN'R fans.
I'm talking about the one yet unwritten for the NY times readers that are general and the investing public. They don't read GN'R boards do they? I doubt if they even read the Internet. They read The Financial Times and The Times. I don't know their equivalents in US tho.

Then, why Merck hasn't appealed to the readers on the paper?
Does anyone check the market and  how the share price responded to the article?
Maybe it didn't cause any noticeable fluctuation. Maybe the tide turned in favour of the idealist's side. I hope.

[Luigi]

I've been talking to the kids around the high school,  95% of them careless for the new guns,  there more into Slash and VR.  If Merck wants Guns n Roses to fly with the kids, some news better come out soon before school is out. That would be a great for Axl, if those songs made it to the high school prom.   

[Saul]

I've been talking to the kids around the high school,  95% of them careless for the new guns,  there more into Slash and VR.  If Merck wants Guns n Roses to fly with the kids, some news better come out soon before school is out. That would be a great for Axl, if those songs made it to the high school prom.   

That actually makes alot of sence man. Good point. I think it would serve gnr best to get something going before the kids get out of school.

[Cocaine__tongue]

I've been talking to the kids around the high school,? 95% of them careless for the new guns,? there more into Slash and VR.? If Merck wants Guns n Roses to fly with the kids, some news better come out soon before school is out. That would be a great for Axl, if those songs made it to the high school prom.? ?

The success of chinese democracy has nothing to do, imo, with the youngsters dancing to "the blues" in their prom.    Enough radio airplay, mtv, etc ....good promotion  will make it a success or a failure in terms of number of discs sold, which of course may have nothing to do with the quality of the music.

[GnrPersia]

I've been talking to the kids around the high school,? 95% of them careless for the new guns,? there more into Slash and VR.? If Merck wants Guns n Roses to fly with the kids, some news better come out soon before school is out. That would be a great for Axl, if those songs made it to the high school prom.? ?

The success of chinese democracy has nothing to do, imo, with the youngsters dancing to "the blues" in their prom.? ? Enough radio airplay, mtv, etc ....good promotion? will make it a success or a failure in terms of number of discs sold, which of course may have nothing to do with the quality of the music.

Even if CD came out and  got nothing to do with music , in the first month of the release The name GUNS N ROSES makes most of people to buy the product.