Jakob Dylan of the Wallflowers sounds off on Axl missing concerts

[Smoking Guns]

Is Kid Rock the closest we will ever get to the old Axl?  Like, if the old Axl had a lot less talent, would he be Kid Rock?

[D]

Is Kid Rock the closest we will ever get to the old Axl?? Like, if the old Axl had a lot less talent, would he be Kid Rock?

please never never never ever mention that cheesy shitty fuckin Kid Rock in any sentence with Axl Rose and i will be forever grateful. If Axl was in a wheel chair and was a parapalegic and couldnt speak, he'd still be more interesting just blinking his eyes than that piece of shit Kid Rock.

[Lady Livin]

  It's hard to compare Kid Rock to anything.

[Smoking Guns]

D, calm down, I was being sarcastic.  Kid Rock used to put on a great show, and still does.  His biggest bad ass moment ever was the VMA's when he did Bawitiba and Walk This Way.  I was actually commenting on Younggunner's post cause he thought it was cool if you wore a fur coat (like Axl used to).  Since Kid Rock wore them, I was wondering if that made him acheive Bad Ass level.  I do actually find Kid Rock live performances to be quite entertaining, he just can't sing or write good music, but, he can rock if need be.  He is no Axl Rose just to clear that up, incase you were implying that I was trying to say he was.

[D]

I think a fan can 'love'/ 'hate/ or not give a shit really about' Axl's personality AND be a fan of the music...
as well as 'love' or 'hate' or not give a shit about the personalities of the VR members AND be a fan of the music...
hm... perhaps though a fan of the music only is just that - only a fan of the music and not of the 'band' or the 'performer'
Whereas a fan of the performer/artist would be both a fan of the performer/artist AND a fan of the music.? ?

its almost a given that i have to like the artist's personality and have to be able to relate to them in some way to be the ultimate fan

GNR,Prince,Bon Jovi, RHCP's,Motley Crue, Aerosmith and Limp Bizkit albums i buy the first day regardless if i have heard a single song because i love the individual members so much.

other bands that i dont connect or dig the members i dont buy

i love metallica's bandmembers but strangely dont buy metallica records, so thats kinda weird.

also if an artist i love doesnt like someone i dont like em

for instance
tommy lee hates kid rock so therefore i hate kid rock, pretty strange huh? but its true, i hate admitting that.

[Captain Obvious]

Once again, this thread needs a little dose of the obvious. I'll walk you guys through it. Repeat after me.

Did Axl miss concerts?.........Yes, he did.

Is Jakob Dylan right about Axl missing concerts?...............Yes, yes he is.

Is Jakob Dylan a moron who makes crap music or a genius? Well, we're not sure

BUT ONCE AGAIN

Is Jakob Dylan right about Axl missing concerts?............... Yes, yes he is.


Dammit people. It might be a Gorilla using sign language to say that Axl missed concerts. And you won't even be able to argue with that gorilla, cuz its got a point.

[Dust N Rose]

Sorry to interrupt again but in Greece we have an old saying: "Whatever the fox can't reach it makes it hanger" which means that when someone can't reach someone else's abilities or can't achieve a same goal he defames the other one that made it or knocks off his achievement because he's jealous or does it to improve a little his own image.?
It's what Aristotle said, the attack on the guise of the speaker is a way when we have lack of arguments.?

Check this:
"When I'm at a show, I'm not there to see how an artist feels that night -- you know, like the notorious stories about Axl Rose? " [starting the attack]

"In all these years, I've cancelled one show, because of extreme illness. You have to take your job seriously -- and don't pretend it's not a job. Get over it. I prefer to play as often as possible, but you're not going to be inspired seven nights a week. " [Congratsulations, you're a good man]

If you're not feeling it, then go out there and fake it. Don't be an asshole. [ We got it, Axl is an asshole, you are the great, man]

Pretty simple techinique.
We always knew Axl is not an ordinary man  , do we need Jakob to reminds it?

[Axlative]

Once again, this thread needs a little dose of the obvious. I'll walk you guys through it. Repeat after me.

Did Axl miss concerts?.........Yes, he did.

Is Jakob Dylan right about Axl missing concerts?...............Yes, yes he is.

Is Jakob Dylan a moron who makes crap music or a genius? Well, we're not sure

BUT ONCE AGAIN

Is Jakob Dylan right about Axl missing concerts?............... Yes, yes he is.


Dammit people. It might be a Gorilla using sign language to say that Axl missed concerts. And you won't even be able to argue with that gorilla, cuz its got a point.

I must say this is one of the oddest threads for a while....

I should walk y'all a bit further:

Did Jakob Dylan say Axl Rose has missed concerts?.....................No!

Did Jakob Dylan call Axl Rose an asshole?....................................No!

Did Jakob Dylan refer to stories of Axl missing gigs?...........Yes, he most definitely did!

Did Jakob Dylan refer to artists missing gigs as being assholes?..Yes, or at least it was very strongly implied.



What I conclude from all this is:

a) Dylan is basically saying he doesn't know for a fact of Axl missing gigs (or the reasons behind those events)

b) Dylan has heard several times this has happened

c) Dylan has deducted it's very likely it has happened several times and at least sometimes for unacceptable reasons

d) He thinks all artists missing gigs for unacceptable reasons are assholes

e) What he says about Axl can be summed up like this: "If Axl has missed a gig for "not feeling it", he is an asshole" Axl, however, is only the big-name example here and the statement is still very general and refers to all performing artists. Or at least musicians.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

oh my... 4 pages now

its simply really
as i've pointed out in the past
either one thinks that axl misses gigs cuz he is an asshole who doesn't give a shit
or not

anyone with one opinion of the other is not going to be swayed by Jakob Dylan or anyone elses' opinion
so really... big fuckin' deal - another person that thinks Axl has missed gigs simply cuz 'he's not feeling it'?
*yawn*
next!

[realgunner]

So add him to the list of people who doesn't like Axl. Big deal.




/jarmo

He never says he doesn't like Axl.  People should take their jobs seriously and don't be an asshole,that's all.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

i think some fans need to take Axl's 'job' less seriously

its entertainment

it's not like a doctor cancelling life saving surgery because he was invitted to play golf!

[jgfnsr]

Is Kid Rock the closest we will ever get to the old Axl?? Like, if the old Axl had a lot less talent, would he be Kid Rock?

please never never never ever mention that cheesy shitty fuckin Kid Rock in any sentence with Axl Rose and i will be forever grateful. If Axl was in a wheel chair and was a parapalegic and couldnt speak, he'd still be more interesting just blinking his eyes than that piece of shit Kid Rock.

Perfectly said D, perfect said...   

[jgfnsr]

Once again, this thread needs a little dose of the obvious. I'll walk you guys through it. Repeat after me.

Did Axl miss concerts?.........Yes, he did.

Is Jakob Dylan right about Axl missing concerts?...............Yes, yes he is.

Is Jakob Dylan a moron who makes crap music or a genius? Well, we're not sure

BUT ONCE AGAIN

Is Jakob Dylan right about Axl missing concerts?............... Yes, yes he is.


Dammit people. It might be a Gorilla using sign language to say that Axl missed concerts. And you won't even be able to argue with that gorilla, cuz its got a point.

I'd probably pay more attention to the gorilla than Jakob Dylan but I digress.

I think it's not so much whether Dylan has a "point" or not. 

It's what the fuck business is it of his anyway and why does he care?