Do You consider CD a follow up to Illusions?

[jameslofton29]

My answer is no. I consider "chinese democracy' to basically be an Axl solo project, and not a true follow up album to Illusions. I consider it one of the tragedies of rock that the 'Illusions' masterpiece was never given a follow up album by the band. To me it is the biggest stain on the bands legacy. I'm sure someone will Dead Horse my comments, but i'm curious as to how you guys(and girls) feel about the band doing illusions and then basically not giving a shit about anything and do you consider CD a follow up, or a whole new era of GNR?

[mrlee]

i dont think its a follow up. I think its like a re debut...a come back album except just axl and some guys.

[Dave_Rose]

Its the biggest comeback of the decade if it happens

[MadmanDan]

We'll know the answer to that question when we hear the album

I hope it will be an evolution form the Illusions, just like the Illusions were an evolution from Appetite

[Twisted Nerve 85]

I dont think so. Because this is a different band which means different personalities different artistic talents, and Axl said this band was going to be moving in a different direction. So Im excited to see what comes out of it, I think Chinese Democracy is going to be the New Guns version of Appetite for Destruction maybe not quite as badass or quite as living on the edge but like AFD in the way that it introduces the band to the world and says

Here we are motherfucker DEAL WITH US BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO STAY! ?

[Continental Drift]

Interesting question. I actually think Axl had mostly "taken control" of GN'R before UYI came out. Because of that, I do feel like CD is the follow-up to UYI. IMHO, AFD is a relic from a band that no longer exists- while UYI, CD and whatever follows is really all part of the contiuing "Axl Rose Saga".

[shaun]

Er, no. For starters, GN'R is a new band, also the material used on the UYI albums was a mix of cover songs, songs that didn't make it onto AFD and possibly a few songs written just for UYI 

[jgfnsr]

Yes and no.

[Dead N' Bloated]

I see CD as a new begining for Guns N' Roses.


 

[jimmythegent]

From what we've heard from Tommy, it would seem that it is a continuation of UYI in so much as the epics Id say...

Axl has expressed that he felt rushed and pressured to finish those albums (although he stated the contrary upon release) so I'm sure he feels he has some unfinished business

but personally, the UYI albums were the last gasp for GN'R as far as im concerned and Chin Dem is a whole seperate animal..

[ppbebe]

Spirit wise, Yes....that sweet convo with Wooody made me think so.

Musically, No

[Lady Livin]

I agree with aspects of what MaoAxl and Jimmythegent have said.

[mrlee]

I see CD as a new begining for Guns N' Roses.


 

i see it as a new beggining for axl. If it was for GNR then we would have the original line up. I think if the name of the album was  " Axl rose- Chinese democracy" then after hearing those live tracks people wouldnt give much about it.

[noonespecial]

I don't know...Illusions came out so long ago...
I agree with the Axl solo project with some guys comment...
If Tommy is being real and not just pushing some PR smoke up our butts (not that there's anything wrong with that, how you take it, you have to decide for yourself), then this is a collaborative effort between Axl and other musicians (different from the original collaborators who participated in AFD or Illusions)

[ppbebe]

Again, whatever you may think, it's not an Axl solo project. If Axl saw this as his solo project he should have changed the band name to Axl Rose band or something and he would have but he hasn't.
So I think Dead_N_Bloated is right.

I think if the name of the album was  "Axl rose- Chinese democracy" then after hearing those live tracks people wouldnt give much about it.

Given that the band name didn't sell 02 tickets enough in US, it seems people didn't give 2 shits whether it was called GN'R or Axl Rose Band. Then after hearing those live tracks people started to give much about it???

[starchild_666]

yeah, re debute is the right word! A new band...

[Cocaine__tongue]

I guess anything Axl releases under the name guns n roses will be compared with previous releases, so I don't know if it will be a follow up or not, but it'll certainly draw comparisons with his previous work, for the good or bad (hope not )

[Saul]

Kinda yes. I view it as the next chapter in axl's songwriting/lyrics/vocals .. but as for the music element , not at all. I look at the music portion of this album as almost akin to the debut of a new band. Only with a world famous singer heading up the vocals.

[ccorn69]

In a way yes... just because it would be the first release of new orginal material since UYI... But in reality no cause GNR is a whole new animal now and because its been so long it almost like a new debut album

[Scabbie]

Interesting Question 

Its been sooooo long that personally I don't consider it to be a follow up. I didn't really consider the Illusions to be a follow up to AFD - at the time GNR to me was Axl, Izzy, Slash Duff and Steven, and the moment I saw Matt's blonde permed hair it just didn't feel right as a follow up album.

I'm really excited about the new line up. I think the sound will be a world apart from UYI 1 & 2 (the sound clips from Boston sounded that way), and whilst the music will contain elements of the Illusions, I think the 'super creative' songs (or whatever Tommy called it) will surprise a lot of GNR fans who maybe expect to hear UYI3 or AFD2.

I just hope that we don't get a St Anger!