Do You consider CD a follow up to Illusions?

[Jim Bob]

Interesting question. I actually think Axl had mostly "taken control" of GN'R before UYI came out. Because of that, I do feel like CD is the follow-up to UYI. IMHO, AFD is a relic from a band that no longer exists- while UYI, CD and whatever follows is really all part of the contiuing "Axl Rose Saga".

exactly.. its in a sense the redebut because of all the new musicans.. but its continuing the legacy left by the illusions 

[Narcissa]

I'd consider CD a debut album by a new band.

[Axl4Prez2004]

It's not a follow-up or a debut...it's something completely unique and bizarre...I am so f'in pumped up for this album!!!  I've got faith in Axl.

[KeVoRkIaN]

I say it is more GNR2K a reload, fresh start - good question

[Saul]

In the same vein then , would you consider Contraband a follow up to UYI's?! 

[norway]

yeah, good point?

edit\ meanin the same kind of question?

[Saul]

yeah, good point 

Thanks , I thought so.    I mean with CD you have but the singer and keyboard player moving forward and with Contraband you have the guitar player , bass player and drummer. 

[ShotgunBlues1978]

I have a feeling this will be the most personal and deepest album content wise of any of the GnR albums.  AFD was pure sex, drugs and rock n roll.  The Illusions were all over the map with their content, but were much deeper lyrically than AFD was with songs like November Rain, Coma, Breakdown, Locomotive and Estranged giving some deep insight into the mind of Axl.  I believe that Chinese Democracy will be the most provacative GnR album from a lyrical standpoint, with some great epics.  My one concern is that there probably won't be a lot of songs that are purely entertaining and outright fun to listen to like the ones found on AFD.  I get the feeling that Chinese Democracy will be a real rainy day album if you know what I mean. 

[jimmythegent]

Im hopeing we get some real insights into what exactly has been going on with Axl all these years

It's well reported that he discovered/uncovered alot of painful experiences through his therapy and the like, I think we'll see alot of these topics touched on in his lyrics

I am also hoping that we hear some more generic or world views from Axl. The world is a very different place to that world that influenced and informed his earlier work so i'm particularly interested to see where Axls head is at on a social level

[Democratized Canuck]

Absolutely.  The last time I checked...... even though Shaq, Karl Malone, Gary Payton and Phil Jackson left the Lakers this summer, they still call them the Lakers this year.  I know basketball is not the same as the music industry but this is Gn'R's next album of original music and its gonna rock all the same.

[Jim Bob]

In the same vein then , would you consider Contraband a follow up to UYI's?! 

fuck no.  Axl has always been the main brain behind gnr.   Its his band.   Without Axl it can't be guns.  so it aint a follow up to shit. its a debut album.

its more like a follow up to Shagrala di da by STP if anything     

ok its a debut

[jimmythegent]

Absolutely.? The last time I checked...... even though Shaq, Karl Malone, Gary Payton and Phil Jackson left the Lakers this summer, they still call them the Lakers this year.? I know basketball is not the same as the music industry but this is Gn'R's next album of original music and its gonna rock all the same.

 

i believe it will rock also ?

[SonofAGun]

On a slightly different note, I see CD being a one and done type deal. I dont think we will ever see another GNR album again after this one.

This is closure for Axl.

[mikegiuliana]

I do not consider it a follow up to the illusions because gnr is no longer around, now it's just axl using the name with a bunch of hired players..  A follow up to the illusions could only be done with gnr.. Besides no one has heard the album so how can it be considered for anything?

Absolutely.  The last time I checked...... even though Shaq, Karl Malone, Gary Payton and Phil Jackson left the Lakers this summer, they still call them the Lakers this year.  I know basketball is not the same as the music industry but this is Gn'R's next album of original music and its gonna rock all the same.

Teams are suppose to change, bands aren't.. zSports in comparison is  terrible .. So me and my friends could get into gnr and it would be gnr

It's just a business now, it's not a group.. Bands have material, they have albums, this band has nothing., They couldn't even tour for more then three weeks without causing riots..

For me gnr is dead, this is the axl rose band and his hired helpers. Now that won't take anything away from the music he makes, but it just won't be gnr for me..

Vince neil doesn't go on tour and call it Motley crue, sammy haggar doesn't tour alone and call it van halen, ozzy doesn't call his solo efforts black sabbath, nor does clapton call his solo projects cream.. WHat makesd a band is it's players, that's what the band is about, not anyone one person..

[Warren]

I do not consider it a follow up to the illusions because gnr is no longer around, now it's just axl using the name with a bunch of hired players..? A follow up to the illusions could only be done with gnr.. Besides no one has heard the album so how can it be considered for anything?

Absolutely.? The last time I checked...... even though Shaq, Karl Malone, Gary Payton and Phil Jackson left the Lakers this summer, they still call them the Lakers this year.? I know basketball is not the same as the music industry but this is Gn'R's next album of original music and its gonna rock all the same.

Teams are suppose to change, bands aren't.. zSports in comparison is? terrible .. So me and my friends could get into gnr and it would be gnr

It's just a business now, it's not a group.. Bands have material, they have albums, this band has nothing., They couldn't even tour for more then three weeks without causing riots..

For me gnr is dead, this is the axl rose band and his hired helpers. Now that won't take anything away from the music he makes, but it just won't be gnr for me..

Vince neil doesn't go on tour and call it Motley crue, sammy haggar doesn't tour alone and call it van halen, ozzy doesn't call his solo efforts black sabbath, nor does clapton call his solo projects cream.. WHat makesd a band is it's players, that's what the band is about, not anyone one person..

I really agree with you. Without Slash and the other guys, there is no GN'R.
Only a fake version of it.

[norway]

au contrere' mon frere'?

 and there will be more albums accordin 2 axl?
tho it could be that they are recordin the final music 2 be released from gunsnroses ever,but we don't know? ?

and mike, in that sense, slash and duff was also as much hired members b4,
 -as brain and richard are now? meanin they not 

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

I really agree with you. Without Slash and the other guys, there is no GN'R.
Only a fake version of it.

the other guys... lol!
aka:  what am I chopped liver 

I honestly believe that Slash is the only one the public at large would /would have 'missed'...
and now that they see him all over with Velvet Revolver... it won't be a mystery

I think the public will be be accept the new band... 
GN'R has what GN'R MUST have to be GN'R...   (among other thngs)... 
Axl's voice and persona

...oh what was the topic...  hm.. good question/topic

yeah, in my mind, it is a follow up to the Illusions

[*Izzy*]

Yes it is a follow-up to the Illusions
No it's not gonna be anything like the Illusions
 

  Izzy?

[mrlee]

The reason im not into this "GNewR" is because these live tracks are all keyboards and there all slow songs with hardly any rock and its just dissapointing. The only newish track i like is "oh my god" i just dont like this stupid techno crap.

[norway]

fuck yeah, oh my god rocks?