10 years is the same as 10 days for an artist.

[neko]

i been reading alot of what type of music is Axl making to put 10 year into an album  or people saying that the album will be great but cant be "10 years waiting great"  the main thing as i see it is that people is not looking into Axl as an artist , Axl as any other artist can make "art" in 1 day or take 20 years , because feelings dont respond to time , when you make art you have to look into your self and sometimes touch things that are very strong , that period can take tou a hole live to do it , Axl made appettite maybe pretty quickly but he had in that time all of his live making the album in his mind . 20 years or something?  if we one day have the album maybe we can say "that took 10 years?! , but Axl maybe needs that time to find himself and give that part of himself to the public . i came to that conclusion reading this book "A Portrait of the Artist As a Young Man" by James Joyce, its a great book . so in conclusion art can be made in 10 days or in ten years ,  even by the same person.

[Mateoson]

yeah... i believe that. But, what's your freakin point?

[anarchy]

Well then it better be out tomorrow.

[Captain Obvious]

What do you mean, "What's your freaking point". I'm pretty sure its not too hard to see his point. That you can't push an artist to finish his art, in this case, Axl.

Good post but one can also use the notion that time is what truly seperates the genius from the average. Specifically, everyone can achieve anything, but in a different time frame. For some, it will take a year, for others 10 years, for the rest 80 years would not be enough.

[Twisted Nerve 85]

Id rather wait 10 yrs for a Masterpiece than 1 yr for a piece of shit, or maybe 2 or 3 for a mediocre album. U cant hurry art, But the thing is I honestly believe its done. Its js all the red tape and beauracracy he's gotta get through. But I have faith in Axl that he will do right by all the ppl anticipating, after all this time he's got alotta shit to get out and BELIEVE ME!! Hes going to get it out one way or another. His perfectionism may be a pain in the ass but unlike Slash,Duff, and Matt I think its worth it. 

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

if axl is an artist, i am an artist and everybody here.

poor michelangelo, delacroix, picasso ....

[neko]

what ever man , i know your just buggin.

[Vicious Wishes]

if axl is an artist, i am an artist and everybody here.

poor michelangelo, delacroix, picasso ....

I believe Axl is an artist. A different kind of art maybe, but an artist nonetheless. Just my opinion, of course, but noone else grabs me quite like he does. Not even Michelangelo.

[MadmanDan]

if axl is an artist, i am an artist and everybody here.

poor michelangelo, delacroix, picasso ....

Funny you mentioning Picasso. While everyone admits that Axl is talented, despite all his "problems", a lot of people think Picasso was a talentless piece of shit

[Tied-Up]

Picasso was brilliant!  As is Axl... and I completely agree with the original post.  It's something that I've been trying to say for a long time now (in several posts throughout this forum) ... an artist doesn't really have the same concept of time or space as other people do. 

If you go back and read one of his more recent interviews with Rolling Stone (the one that was published in 2000, I believe) when he jokes about how he postponed thanksgiving, and is trying not to do that with christmas because new years comes right away...  This is the way an artist works.

In college, I would be late for every single class, but the only teachers that understood my tardiness was my art teachers, because artists really don't have an understanding of the measurement of time.  It escapes them.

There are exceptions to this, of course... as with everything... but all the artists I've dealt with, and all the artists I've known, and from my own experiences in my own life, I can say that time is probably one of the most difficult concepts for us (artists) to grasp and get a handle on.  It's too scientific. 

It's not a cop out... I wish it was, because then I could turn around and get a grip on "reality" and be able to deal with time better. 

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

artists really don't have an understanding of the measurement of time.  It escapes them.
There are exceptions to this, of course... as with everything... but all the artists I've dealt with, and all the artists I've known, and from my own experiences in my own life, I can say that time is probably one of the most difficult concepts for us (artists) to grasp and get a handle on.  It's too scientific. 

i get what your're saying... to a smaller degree I can relate... when doing something creative I become totally immersed into it... and lose track of time... time isn't really an issue.  Its the purest form of distraction... And i can return to some works many many times and change it.  Its not like that with every work... just some.  Some just 'come' to me and I am immediately satisfied with it...  Others I find pleasure in returning to.  In either case - I've never said to myself "gee, I been working on this too long - I should stop"  or "oh i've changed this x amt of times, I better stop." 

anyhow... axl has literally spent a segment /an era of his life/career on this work.  he is the one to know what's best for it...
and ultimately - regardless of what we want - what is best for him.

disclaimer:  I am not saying that axl is 'having a problem' finishing the album due to creative issues or anything like that.

I just believe that he has been through his process - and whatever that includes on this project is not for us to judge.

[Cocaine__tongue]

sorry to say, but you just can't compare picasso, michelangelo, bernini, leonardo, rafael, etc. etc to axl rose. yes, i love axl and his music, but common people......

[jimmythegent]

Part of the process of art is distancing yourself from said piece

This is where Axl is struggling ( and it is worth mentioning that he is in good company here).

Axl needs to distance himself from his artwork sufficiently enough to allow it into the public domain and thus become open to interpretation. Therefor it ceases to become his own and the process of allowing it to become "owned" bt everyone begins

The problem here is that not only does it become open to interpretation, it also becomes open to critisism. This I feel, is the hardest part in letting go of any artwork and is probably the biggest hurdle Axl faces in releasing CD.

[*Izzy*]

Yeah you can't rush art or expect an album or a band to be great overnight that's what Izzy wrote 14 Years about

  Izzy?

[Izzy]

Yeah you can't rush art or expect an album or a band to be great overnight that's what Izzy wrote 14 Years about

14 years has nothing to do with that

[ppbebe]

Yeah you can't rush art or expect an album or a band to be great overnight that's what Izzy wrote 14 Years about

  Izzy 

deep understanding of the lyric, *   *.   

[ShotgunBlues1978]

The original post is so true.  Anyone who's an arist, whether they're a musician, a writer, a painter, or whatever, can tell you that there's only a certain frame of mind that you can be in to create art that you're satisfied with.  You need inspiration and you need to feel like you can express what you're feeling, and sometimes you just don't feel like that.  No matter how hard you try, if your mental and emotional state isn't in the right place, you can't do it right. 

[*Izzy*]

Thanks ppbebe but I thought that actually was what 14 Years was about, what is it about

  Izzy ?

[mrlee]

i would absolutly lmao if this album turned out to be crap. Which really is what it is seeming to be with the guitarists problems and axls vocals slowly getting worse.

How could it have  taken 10 years? look at his little come back in 2002 was it? that when most of the newest material came out so i think he only started it about then. though if theres any major evidence thta proves me wrong then im a ass lol.

[thelostrose]

if axl is an artist, i am an artist and everybody here.

poor michelangelo, delacroix, picasso ....

Funny you mentioning Picasso. While everyone admits that Axl is talented, despite all his "problems", a lot of people think Picasso was a talentless piece of shit

maybe some people should take a look at the drawings he made as a kid. i'm not into picasso's paitings, but he was very talented.