GN'R Sign New Deal?

[liquidvirus]

GN'R Sign New Deal?
 
 02 Feb 2005 Guns N' Roses have parted company with their record label Geffen.

Internet sources are suggesting that the band (who only feature frontman Axl Rose from the original line-up of the band) have apparently inked a deal with Sanctuary Records

source : www.metalhammer.co.uk
 

[Nytunz]

Well, Stinson said in Oslo that Sanctuary was GNR`s record company..

[Pandora]

Probably another case of confusion with the Sanctuary publishing deal.

I don't think Universal would let them go after having invested so much money in this album.

[Lesty]

It's amazing how many music news sources are mis-reporting this.
By "Internet Sources" they probably meant the MelodicRock story, which was
corrected the next day. Clearly, it's just the publishing deal.

[Nytunz]

Probably another case of confusion with the Sanctuary publishing deal.

I don't think Universal would let them go after having invested so much money in this album.

I remember i asked Tommy (when we talked about GNR), witch recordcompany they would use, and he said Sanctuary.... Im positive about that, but there is a possability that he thought i asked what recordcompany HE used.

[ppbebe]

Hum, maybe this is where the French radios got the idea from.
Shouldn't Music mags know their beans better?

Internet sources... I'm not surprised.

[madagas]

Axl's publishing deal press release would NOT have said "dozens of songs for Universal Music" if they were in the process of leaving Universal/Geffen. Common sense people.

[ppbebe]

I wonder why they put that "for Universal Music" bit in the announcement expressly.

If it's to prevent confusion, it?s not working, is it.

[Rain]

Hum, maybe this is where the French radios got the idea from.
Shouldn't Music mags know their beans better?

Internet sources... I'm not surprised.

A DJ at Oui fm which is most of the time a reliable rock station stated he saw chinese democracy was in the BMG release list catalog. And I'm not a pro in record companies but I don't think BMG is a branch of universal so if the source is accurate GNR may have changed label.

[anarchy]

Axl uses money from publishing deal to pay back Geffen and then GNR signs with Sanctuary. 

[madagas]

Anarchy, great minds think alike...I was just about to post something like that. Sanctuary in turn pays Axl a fee to sign with them..Axl gets his $$$$$$ back....Axl loses problems of dealing with a major label and is "freed of all the chains".

[ppbebe]

A DJ at Oui fm which is most of the time a reliable rock station stated he saw chinese democracy was in the BMG release list catalog. And I'm not a pro in record companies but I don't think BMG is a branch of universal so if the source is accurate GNR may have changed label.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did parted, to be honest.  The label had GH released. Who nose.

Useful note: Sanctuary is related to BMG. So is RCA.
In some countries, Morrissey?s (Attack/Sanctuary) and Velvet Revolver's records are both released from BMG. 

[Pandora]

The way I understand it, Sanctuary Records only has a distribution deal with BMG. Check BMG's official website : Sanctuary is not one of their labels.
Velvet Revolver are signed to RCA Records, which is a BMG label. Completely different situation.

[Death Cube K]

I dont remember the Sanctuary deal in Oslo, but GNR might be using them or Tommy misunderstood. Howewer, Axl might have bought GNR out of Geffen.

[Rain]

The way I understand it, Sanctuary Records only has a distribution deal with BMG. Check BMG's official website : Sanctuary is not one of their labels.
Velvet Revolver are signed to RCA Records, which is a BMG label. Completely different situation.

That's why Chinese Democracy is on a BMG release list ... That would make sense. So in France it appears that Chi Dem will be distributed by BMG elsewhere it will be sanctuary or BMG... which would mean geffen and universal are out of the equation.

[Lesty]

If you look at the Santuary Record Label, they don't have any real large or
high-profile acts on it's roster (meaning, I don't think they have a current artist
or group that has gone platinum while at Sanctuary). They're not a "big player" when it comes
to the recording end of things.
Still, it doesn't matter how much Axl received from Sanctuary for the publishing
rights. the band GnR has still be financed and is under contract with Geffen/Universal
and Axl can't just walk away from it, or pay them off unless the record company
really wants it to happen.

[Pandora]

That's why Chinese Democracy is on a BMG release list ... That would make sense. So in France it appears that Chi Dem will be distributed by BMG elsewhere it will be sanctuary or BMG... which would mean geffen and universal are out of the equation.

I don't agree. They would be on a BMG list of releases if Sanctuary was one of their labels, which is not the case. I think a distribution deal is a different matter altogether.
For example, I sometimes see albums being released on an indie label but having a distribution deal with a bigger record company. It doesn't mean the band is signed to that record company. It's exactly how it works for Sanctuary.
I really don't think we should look too much into that. Probably confusion on the journalist's part. Once again.

[Rain]

Well if BMG is distributing it in France I wouldn't be surprised radio stations receive a BMG list with CD on it. Because if sanctuary records is not distributed in France they still have to get the info Chi Dem is being relased in 2005 through.
I don't know about NRJ or even RTL2 but djs at oui fm are pretty reliable to me. But at the end of the day I don't really care ... what I want is it to be released on BMG or Geffen or whatever as soon as possible. The label or distributor for us are not that important.

[ppbebe]

Sanctuary is an independent label not a subsidiary. And BMG/SONY does release other label's records in many countries.
If you?re in doubt, check some Morrissey record or any Sanctuary artists.

I know that for a fact.

[madagas]

Lesty, Geffen may want him out. That is what I am saying. They could just cut their losses and take a settlement. They still have the real golden egg-the back catalog! ps Would you want a guy on your roster who took 10 years to complete a record-sued you for releasing a record-and generally told you to fuck off every chance he got.