Axl Rose signs Publishing Deal

[D]

there are two options in my opinion as to why this has happened

1. Axl is broke and needed money


2. this is just the final way for Axl to say goodbye to the old band and focus on the new. by doing this axl never has to deal with Slash and Duff again so i think this couldve been a way to cut all remaining ties from the old bandmembers.

I dont really view it as selling out, i think axl just wants to concentrate on Chinese Democracy and wave goodbye to the old band and old material, now if he will only stop playing every old song live, ill be happy!

[DazRose85]

I dont really view it as selling out, i think axl just wants to concentrate on Chinese Democracy and wave goodbye to the old band and old material, now if he will only stop playing every old song live, ill be happy!

Well, I would hope he plays a few oldies!

[GNROSAS]

there are two options in my opinion as to why this has happened

1. Axl is broke and needed money


2. this is just the final way for Axl to say goodbye to the old band and focus on the new. by doing this axl never has to deal with Slash and Duff again so i think this couldve been a way to cut all remaining ties from the old bandmembers.

I dont really view it as selling out, i think axl just wants to concentrate on Chinese Democracy and wave goodbye to the old band and old material, now if he will only stop playing every old song live, ill be happy!

Or Because he had to do that so as to sign fot the new songs also.

[ppbebe]

Sp1at have incorrectly made a report out of the information posted on www.snakepit.org. Slash HASN'T issued a statement, the webmaster contacted his management for info. Read it again.

It's basically a rumour board and that's it.

[D]

i just had a 3rd theory

maybe axl's publishing company of old included the slash/duff partnership

so the only way to break away from that partnership and start a new publishing with Guns N Roses was to do what he did.


I think he needs money though

maybe he is having to fund CD out of his pocket now or something.

I cant really see axl doing something just for the money, he doesnt seem that way, so he must be going broke or it had something to do with moving forward to the new album.

[jarmo]

Sp1at have incorrectly made a report out of the information posted on www.snakepit.org. Slash HASN'T issued a statement, the webmaster contacted his management for info. Read it again.

You may have read on the net that Axl Rose has signed with Sanctuary Records. In addition, some reports are that Sanctuary has the rights to the GNR back catalog. We asked the SLASH management if Axl owned the back catalog and had the right to sell it. The deal is that the back catalog is all material from Appetite... through the ...Illusion albums, the original band, GNR. There are three signatures required on every deal: SLASH, Duff and Axl. Since Sanctuary bought Axl's share for 20 years from now on every deal, there has to be approval by Sanctuary, SLASH and Duff. Axl got some millions up front and nothing else on this for 20 years. SLASH and Duff have not signed over their shares to anyone...too valuable. Hope this clears up any confusion.

http://www.snakepit.org/news.html


That's Linda's site, it's the Official Slash Fan Site, not the Official Slash Site.




/jarmo

[norway]

there has to be approval by Sanctuary, SLASH and Duff.

so if the x-members has problem with anything regarding gnr, they need to sue or negotiate w\ sanctuary, not axl's laywers...?

it says in the thread that axl was offered more money from other's but signed to sanctuary because the deal pleased him the most?
so money don't seem to be an issue imo
luckily this will deal w\ sanctuary makes that only releaseplans are what need to be worked out,
looking good?

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

well well well...
this answered a lot of those questions I had yesterday about how they would handle deals involving the old catalogue.

Axl, Slash, Duff approval will now be Sanctuary, Slash, Duff approval for licensing.

I agree with a lot of what you guys have posted - I'm beginning to like this deal more and more.
Axl won't have to deal with Slash/Duff anymore. ?
I hope! ?
hehehe
Good for him.
Perhaps (as someone has already mentioned ? ) ... perhaps now Sanctuary will handle the S+D lawsuit...

this is a picture of Bert Deixler (on the right)... ? taken at... Sanctuary's offices in LA. ?

And another thing! ?Once again... ?Sanctuary has to be pretty god damn confident that Axl has the rights in order to make this deal. ?Thats good news. ?

As for Duff considering legal action to stop this...
its Axl's share... ? what can he say other than what he's already alleged in the S+D suit? ?

Best wishes Axl!
Give 'em hell Sanctuary!!

Now Axl signed away the rights, you can count the days until half of the old material will appear in movies, commercials and other stuff.

Because now Slash and Duff can sell out the way they alyways wanted but couldn't because Axl was before that.

And when they keep selling out, they gonna blaim it on Sanctuary and complain about how it's all Axl's fault and how they would have never given a single GN'R tune to a movie, video game etc.

That's what you gonna hear. But the paychecks you will not see.

With that in mind, Slash saying how he would "never sell out the way Axl did" makes me wanna

agreed 

thing is their signatures on any licensing agreement will not be in invisible ink...
so how would they be able to complain 

[GNROSAS]

Now Axl signed away the rights, you can count the days until half of the old material will appear in movies, commercials and other stuff.

Because now Slash and Duff can sell out the way they alyways wanted but couldn't because Axl was before that.

And when they keep selling out, they gonna blaim it on Sanctuary and complain about how it's all Axl's fault and how they would have never given a single GN'R tune to a movie, video game etc.

That's what you gonna hear. But the paychecks you will not see.




With that in mind, Slash saying how he would "never sell out the way Axl did" makes me wanna

VERY WELL SAID

[D]

if GNR songs pop up in tv commercials they will lose so much of my respect.

I always respected Prince cause so many "rap artists" begged him to sample his work back when it was popular

P Diddy called Prince personally and asked him if he could sample "Kiss" Prince told him Hell No!!!!!!

Axl doing this makes me lose some respect for him

ive always admired axl cause he has been the one guy in my eyes who has never really sold out

i applauded him for not putting songs on lame movie soundtracks and tv commercials *the wttj in san andreas is ok* cause he is in the game

but there is nothing i hate worse than a song in a tv commercial

i can handle movie soundtracks but no tv commercials

if a gnr song appears in a lame TV add i will never listen to that song again, cause it will totally fuck up any meaning i once felt for that particular song and it will make the song lame in my eyes.

i hope there is something different to this deal.

but if they paid 8 figures, u better believe GNR's legacy will be fucked even worse than it is now and get ready to see GNR become whores. it sucks and it pisses me off!

i dont mind axl disrespecting us by not sharing anything, i dont mind him being late for concerts
but dont fuck with the music by whoring it out to bullshit.

thats where i draw the line!

[providman]

Now Axl signed away the rights, you can count the days until half of the old material will appear in movies, commercials and other stuff.

Because now Slash and Duff can sell out the way they alyways wanted but couldn't because Axl was before that.

And when they keep selling out, they gonna blaim it on Sanctuary and complain about how it's all Axl's fault and how they would have never given a single GN'R tune to a movie, video game etc.

That's what you gonna hear. But the paychecks you will not see.




With that in mind, Slash saying how he would "never sell out the way Axl did" makes me wanna

What a bunch of hypocritical bullshit. First off, nobody here really knows anything regarding this situation. You may think you do, & spout your opinions thusly, but NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING. NOT YOU, NOT ME, NOT SPLAT, NO ONE.

Now, to address the hypocrisy. It's funny how now that? Slash & Duff's name have been brought into this, the phrases "whoring out" & "selling out" are being bandied about, but no one has a problem or says boo about the fact that this supposed deal supposedly gives Sanctuary control over Axl's future work(if he ever gets it together enough to release any) - he sold out his future work for Sanctuary do do as they please- I believe the word they used in the press release was "exploit", so how come you don't have a problem with Axl, to use your own expression, "selling out" ? You don't have to answer, we already know why.

[Booker Floyd]

I always respected Prince cause so many "rap artists" begged him to sample his work back when it was popular

Funny, since Prince himself has sampled other artists. ?"Arrogance" actually sampled Eric B. and Rakims "I Know You Got Soul," "Jazz It Up (Jazz Mix)" by C.F.M Band, and "Niggaz 4 Life" by N.W.A. ?"The Flow" has a sample of "Tramp" by McCracklin and Fulsom. ? ?

i applauded him for not putting songs on lame movie soundtracks and tv commercials *the wttj in san andreas is ok* cause he is in the game

What are you talking about? ?This romanticized notion that Axl will not allow his work to be used for commercial purposes is complete bullshit. ?For example, this comment made by another poster:

Now Axl signed away the rights, you can count the days until half of the old material will appear in movies, commercials and other stuff.

Because now Slash and Duff can sell out the way they alyways wanted but couldn't because Axl was before that.

Complete bullshit. ?"Welcome To The Jungle" is currently in a commercial. ?Its in a video game. ?GNR songs have always been in movies, or on movie soundtracks. ?So if youre "counting down the days," youre a little late. ?

but there is nothing i hate worse than a song in a tv commercial

Well, then you should be pissed, because a GNR song is in a commercial. ?And I dont think its necessarily Slash and Duffs doing...

if a gnr song appears in a lame TV add i will never listen to that song again, cause it will totally fuck up any meaning i once felt for that particular song and it will make the song lame in my eyes.

Unless Axl has a small part in whatever product is being advertised?

As for Axl selling his rights, thats his right and his decision. ?Its just amazing how some will take that action and somehow turn it on Slash and Duff to make them the "bad guys." ?Typical, though.

[killingvector]

As for Axl selling his rights, thats his right and his decision.  Its just amazing how some will take that action and somehow turn it on Slash and Duff to make them the "bad guys."  Typical, though.

I agree unless Duff/ Slash attempt to derail the deal through more litigation, which knowingly would disrupt the release of Chinese Democracy. No publishing deal = No CD.

I didn't appreciate the 'selling out' comment since it wasn't explained properly; one could make the short leap that Slash/Duff are being a bit hypocritical since the in their lawsuit they explicitly say that Axl singlehandedly derailed a number of deals which would have put GnR songs in movie soundtracks. I think though they were refering to selling out his publishing rights; the comment though has other less complimentary connotations.

[Booker Floyd]

But I don't think the Guns n'roses partnership (e.g. Slash and Duff) are going to be happy about Sanctuary's control over the older tracks

Why not?  What would be the difference between them and Axl?

If Sanctuary plans on making money ($50 million?) with this deal, wont they be a little less difficult than Axl when it comes to licensing , or agreeing with Slash and Duff on licensing.  It seems like theyre less likely to block deals...Moral and personal issues arent going to be the same.  This seems like it would be good news for Slash and Duff.

one could make the short leap that Slash/Duff are being a bit hypocritical since the in their lawsuit they explicitly say that Axl singlehandedly derailed a number of deals which would have put GnR songs in movie soundtracks. I think though they were refering to selling out his publishing rights; the comment though has other less complimentary connotations.

Yeah, but one could just as easily counter that theyre doing what they want with the music they wrote...Not selling it to an outside body to decide on its use.  Theres a significant difference.

[kyrie]

Well I see this as Axl's way of washing his hands of all the BS with the existing partnership.

That crap about Slash and Duff feeling it's "too valuable" is such laughable bullshit. They were the sellouts who wanted songs in every fucking movie they could whore themselves to. Axl at least had the presence of mind to have STANDARDS. Big Daddy (hey I don't like him much but Sandler is popular), End of Days, etc... meanwhile Slash would probably see SCOM included in a J-Lo flick if it brought him a paycheck.

So Axl sells his portion, gets a nice cash infusion up front, and note he took LESS than was offered and held out for a deal he felt would be best for the legacy of the band, and gets to wash his hands of the bullshit of his ex-bandmates.

Plus, it covers the rights for CD. Which hopefully means that is on the launchpad at long last.

[D]

dude if u cant see the difference in axl having a song ina commercial for a violent video game which he is in and say "we are the champions" in a viagra commercial, i cant help u out.


i can live with the san andreas cause that game could be a music video for wttj, plus axl has a nice role in that game.

however if SCOM was used for a makeup or shampoo commercial id be pissed off

just like Love hurts in that shaving commercial, thats horrible!

Like a Rock by bob seger could be a great song but i cant listen to it cause all i think of is a fuckin truck.

Jet,Lenny kravitz, all their songs that were featured in commercials first, i just dont take seriously when i hear them or see the video cause somehow the commercial makes me listen and view it in a different light.

[DazRose85]

If 'old' GN'R songs can be licenced off by Sanctury, Slash and Duff for movie soundtracks etc etc, what's stopping Sanctury from doing the same (own their own) to any Chinese Democracy tracks right now if they have Axl's share in the forthcoming and future material?

[ppbebe]

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Haven't other members signed to Sanctuary Publishing yet?

[Christos AG]

If 'old' GN'R songs can be licenced off by Sanctury, Slash and Duff for movie soundtracks etc etc, what's stopping Sanctury from doing the same (own their own) to any Chinese Democracy tracks right now if they have Axl's share in the forthcoming and future material?

When AD companies pay big bucks to buy the rights to a song, they do it because the song is recognizable...

Not because GNR fans will stay home and wait for the ad to play again and again just to listen to the 30 seconds of the new GNR song which noone else recognizes.

[norway]

If 'old' GN'R songs can be licenced off by Sanctury, Slash and Duff for movie soundtracks etc etc, what's stopping Sanctury from doing the same (own their own) to any Chinese Democracy tracks right now if they have Axl's share in the forthcoming and future material?

i bet the terms are different for the newmaterial since gunsroses name is axl's legally-
and slash and duff will not be needed for licening new stuff....   

it's cool since sanctuarys use of the old material, in fx commercial,
will also, for all practical purposes, promote gnr which will be active in the future 

so axl can focus on gnr and gets benefits (socially) from the oldgnr
uh... i think i'm right