Axl Rose signs Publishing Deal

[liquidvirus]

where's mysteron disappeared to ?

[youngerformofaxl]

He's probably busy playing Halo 2.

[Mysteron]

The deal will allow Sanctuary to move forward. That's obvious

But I don't think the Guns n'roses partnership (e.g. Slash and Duff) are going to be happy about Sanctuary's control over the older tracks

[comatose]

They (Sanctuary) do list GN?R as a whole on their artist roster...

http://www.sanctuarygroup.com/index.php?page=1&l1=6&l2=5&l3=0&getArticleId=391

[Mysteron]

They (Sanctuary) do list GN?R as a whole on their artist roster...

http://www.sanctuarygroup.com/index.php?page=1&l1=6&l2=5&l3=0&getArticleId=391

That's always been there

[ppbebe]

But I don't think the Guns n'roses partnership (e.g. Slash and Duff) are going to be happy about Sanctuary's control over the older tracks

Yoo Hoo, Obi-Wan! That's my first thought when I read the news about the deal.  Sure enough, so?
I'm wondering which came first. I guess that's a sorta business secret tho.

[norway]

could it be that the music on the original old material is the oldmembers share also...
and that axl can do this but only copyright it to gnr with music played by others that slash and co?
happy weekend to all, hope 4 more good news next week

[ppbebe]

Hey, mate. Forget the bonus not?

+bonus
3)what's more, Rose's contribution to dozens of old tracks, which Rose has newly recorded with current members, are covered under the deal. 

that was exactly my idea too 

have nice weekends everyone,   I think I'll see ya here at the weekends tho. horrid addicts, so what?

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

FYI new article on Sanctuary. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=industryNews&storyID=7451347

and hm... the "contributions" part really does answer a lot of questions I was pondering

in connection with the S+D suit? Eva, What do you think?

hm... lots of thoughts   EDITED:  not necessarily in connection with the lawsuit no.  that's not what i meant ppbbe

the S&D suit addresses who has rights to grant permission for licensing.? If Axl and Slash and Duff are the only ones who have to give permission - then i suppose the other songwriters only involvement is their needing to be compensated by payment of royalties.? It is my understanding that this (payment of royalties) is not covered under this deal.

Seems Sancturary would represent only Axl on any given licensing/publsihign issue...
perhaps only after the approaching party were to obtain licensing permission from the other parties who hold thoe rights -? then they could finalize the deal with Sanctuary publishing to best meet Sanctuary and Axl's terms?

or perhaps if sanctuary were to actively pursue deals, they would set 'em up as far as they could - set forth the terms of their proposition and then it would be up to the propositioned party to obtain the remaining publishing/licensing permission from the other parties who hold rights in order to finalize the deal?

get what i'm saying?

haha!? i suppose i actually have answered the questions I was pondering with only more questions to ponder!?

the fact that they reference 'contributions' though does indicate that it would be deals soley for Axl/on Axl's behalf and not every credited songwriter on a given GN'R track.

The fact that they've made this deal does indicate that there must be a way to go about it already set up!

who knows?! perhaps Axl has bought out D&S and is sole right holder??

I'd love to know more about it.? ?But oh well... just bring on CD! hahaha!

EDIT: 

I assume the only reason it names Rose specifically is that songwriters sign to publishing deals and not recording artists, so it would be axl signing for HIS songwriting contributions would be my guess

I think you might be right about that.

Maybe Guns N' Roses Music ASCAP was owned by five guys and now Axl's share of that is handled by Sanctuary.
/jarmo

thats the only way i've been able to reconcile this...   
yet, just HOW they can hanlde soley Axl's share in any given deal is what has got me scratching my head.

anyone have any other ideas on how they would go about it?

[jarmo]

From The Times' article:

Sanctuary said that it did expect to generate about ?50 million from exploiting Guns N? Roses hits through film soundtracks, cover versions and their use in advertisements.


Didn't Duff and Slash have something to say about this in the past? 





/jarmo

[D]

OK, this is truly great news. But before we all start celebrating, lets just remember a few things:

Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet....?

ok winston wolfe

i think the publishing deal is one of the final obstacles, i really believe that.

[Malcolm]

 According an article in the U.K.'s The Times, Sanctuary Music Group said that it expected to generate about ?50 million (approx. $94 million) from exploiting GUNS N' ROSES hits through film soundtracks, cover versions and their use in advertisements. Sanctuary announced earlier in the week that it had acquired the publishing rights to GUNS N' ROSES' back catalogue in a deal believed to be worth ?10 million (approx. $19 million).

Deke Arlon, Sanctuary's head of publishing, said: "After THE BEATLES and QUEEN, there doesn't come much bigger in the rock canon than GUNS N' ROSES. We spent years trying to find the right deal and we are delighted with acquiring a slice of rock history."

The notoriously unpredictable Axl Rose signed with Sanctuary after months of negotiations through his lawyers. Although rival publishers are believed to have offered more, Rose felt more comfortable with Sanctuary's business plan.

Sanctuary has also secured the rights to "Chinese Democracy", the new GUNS N' ROSES album and all future Rose material. However, the album has no release date 12 years after work began. The effort has cost other labels ?6 million (approx. $11 million) and seen off eight producers.

[AxlFink]

so CD will or will not be on geffen or interscope?  is Sanctuary gnr's label? 

[draguns]

I just read over at Snakepit.org that Slash and Duff still have to sign off on any deals regarding GNR music for movies and other forms of entertainment. I thought that would be the case.

[D]

Maybe axl,slash and duff reached a compromise

axl would allow GNRs music to be whored out to the highest bidder in exchange for slash and duff agreeing to let sanctuary handle it.

i dont want GNR songs on every movie soundtrack

and i sure as fuck dont want a gnr song in a tv commercial

if they have paradise city in a fucking viagra commercial im gonna lose a ton of respect for GNR.
when i think of GNR i dont wanna picture a fuckin tv commercial

that sucks!

[DazRose85]

I just read over at Snakepit.org that Slash and Duff still have to sign off on any deals regarding GNR music for movies and other forms of entertainment. I thought that would be the case.

You may have read on the net that Axl Rose has signed with Sanctuary Records. In addition, some reports are that Sanctuary has the rights to the GNR back catalog. We asked the SLASH management if Axl owned the back catalog and had the right to sell it. The deal is that the back catalog is all material from Appetite... through the ...Illusion albums, the original band, GNR. There are three signatures required on every deal: SLASH, Duff and Axl. Since Sanctuary bought Axl's share for 20 years from now on every deal, there has to be approval by Sanctuary, SLASH and Duff. Axl got some millions up front and nothing else on this for 20 years. SLASH and Duff have not signed over their shares to anyone...too valuable. Hope this clears up any confusion.

[norway]

Hey, mate. Forget the bonus not?

is the originals then? thats cool too?
and yeah with d, seems findind the moment 4 a release is next?

see you too

[RnT]

The deal will allow Sanctuary to move forward. That's obvious

WHEN CD is finished or ......... CD is already finished at this moment?

[DemocracyRose]

Slash Speaks About Axl's New Publishing Deal   
 

From Sp1at.com
 
The Story

Former Guns n Roses guitarist Slash has issued a statement on his official website giving his take of Axl Rose's new deal with Sanctuary Music Publishing.

In an attempt to clear up any confusion fans may have Slash said "The deal is that the back catalog is all material from Appetite... through the ...Illusion albums, the original band, GNR. There are three signatures required on every deal: Slash, Duff and Axl. Since Sanctuary bought Axl's share for 20 years from now on every deal, there has to be approval by Sanctuary, Slash and Duff."

Slash then went on to say that he would never sell out in the way that Axl has done and that his share of the Guns name is "too valuable".

In the statement it also became clear that Axl's deal with Sanctuary Music Publishing lasts 20 years and that Axl Rose has acquired an up front fee, believed to be in the region of ?10 Million rather than a percentage of any royalties gained from exploiting Guns n Roses music.

From what Splat has gathered it is Duff McKagan's lawyers that have the biggest objection with the publishing deal and may try and challenge it in court. If this is the case and they are successful then further delays may be possible

[Johnnyblood]

From what Splat has gathered it is Duff McKagan's lawyers that have the biggest objection with the publishing deal and may try and challenge it in court. If this is the case and they are successful then further delays may be possible

Oh great.