Axl Rose signs Publishing Deal

[erose]

i never thought of axl as a person whould sell out, so i have a little hard time believing that, but why was this deal made do you think? for what reasons? there has to be something more important than the ten mill up front??

[killingvector]

So is Slash confirming that Axl hasn't lost his publishing rights? I was under the impression that Slash and Duff were claiming he gave them up when the resigned from the old Gnr and took ownership of the name.

Clearly this deal has nothing to do with the lawsuit. Axl grabbed some cash from Sanctuary, perhaps he needed some liquidity. the catalog of CD isn't a bad move, but giving Sanctuary the right to control use of the back catalog is disturbing to me.

[killingvector]

yes norway, it was the back catalog as well as the futures.

[ppbebe]

Hey, mate. Forget the bonus not?

is the originals then? thats cool too 

Sort of....new original? I meant the bonus may come in handy sometime or other.
I mean, whose approval would be required on every deal for these rerecorded songs?

[DazRose85]

Is it anyway possibly to see the terms of the contract signed? Mysteron?

[norway]

it's kinda cool since it's in future it can be gnr from same source regardles of content, era and album
did i get that right? good move if so 

[ppbebe]

Clearly this deal has nothing to do with the lawsuit. Axl grabbed some cash from Sanctuary, perhaps he needed some liquidity. the catalog of CD isn't a bad move, but giving Sanctuary the right to control use of the back catalog is disturbing to me.

I think otherwise. The lawsuits might have something to do with the deal.
You can?t see the wood for the trees. 
For instance, what did Axl say in regard to CD in London 02, which Norway often quotes.

[killingvector]

Clearly this deal has nothing to do with the lawsuit. Axl grabbed some cash from Sanctuary, perhaps he needed some liquidity. the catalog of CD isn't a bad move, but giving Sanctuary the right to control use of the back catalog is disturbing to me.

I think otherwise. The lawsuits might have something to do with the deal.
You can?t see the wood for the trees. 
For instance, what did Axl say in regard to CD in London 02, which Norway often quotes.

Yeah, I can see what you are saying. The deal could be struck down if the court rules that axl didn't own the publishing rights that he sold to Sanctuary for the next twenty years. Mysteron was correct; the gnr partnershp will not be happy with Sanctuary's role in ownership of the rights. I expect the consequences of the Slash/Duff v. Axl verdict just become substantially more grave for both sides.

[jarmo]

I merged the "Final phase" and the "publishing deal" threads since they're basically about the same things, which are Axl signing the deal and what it might mean for the future of GN'R.



/jarmo

[Izzy]

It's pretty obvious what's happened

Axl must be struggling financially - a nice round figure of 10 million in his bank balance would help clear certain debts he owes with certain record labels - which would indicate, no album for some time.....

Just my point of view.

[jarmo]

It's pretty obvious what's happened

Axl must be struggling financially - a nice round figure of 10 million in his bank balance would help clear certain debts he owes with certain record labels - which would indicate, no album for some time.....

Just my point of view.

That's a possibility.

But at the same time, the news report on Sanctuary's site mentioned recently recorded tracks. So, who knows.

Would they mention those if they weren't finished or close to being finished?




/jarmo

[Scabbie]

FUCKING LAWYERS

I'm getting utterly confused now. One minute the Slash/Duff thing has nothing to do with the release of CD, now it appears the two are intrinsically linked.

 

[norway]

  is it not a sign that the legal issues been worked out...?
at least slash and duff must negotiate with sanctuary instead of axl, and axl-sanctuary, uh... i think so?
anyway, the said next step is workin out a release date?

[killingvector]

Slash's statement makes it painfully obvious that the legal issues have not been worked out.

[Continental Drift]

I don't know. My instincts tell me that this is a pretty good deal for Axl. ?10 Million to walk away from that mess of having to get Slash and Duff to agree on every request to use a GN'R song. Those three guys have been hardly able to agree on anything for 15 years and the animousity is only sure to grow as VR and nu GNR are sure to be in direct competition with each other over the next few years. There's a good chance Axl never would have seen ?10 Million by retaining his share. Of course, Slash and Duff could try to put the blade to Axl by licensing GN'R songs left and right now that he's not in the royalty picture for 20 years- but that would be "selling out".

As far as Axl goes- I hope the ?10 Million is headed straight into his own personal vaults and not "needed" to pay off CD debts. Otherwise, the stakes for CD just got raised that much higher.

[Mateoson]

But at the same time, the news report on Sanctuary's site mentioned recently recorded tracks. So, who knows.

Would they mention those if they weren't finished or close to being finished?

I'd be willing to bet Axl finally let Sanctuary listen to the finalized tracks. Maybe that was the final nail in the coffin for this deal. I'd bet Sanctuary would want an idea of what the future investment was before jumping on this deal on Axl's terms. Because lets face it, Axl wouldn't go into a contract at this point without having it his way. He's been there, done that, and I think he is ready to move forward finally.

[chineseblues]

Its paionfully obvious now that slash and duff are trying everything they can to stop cd from coming out. The lawsuit proves that, and also the fact that duffs lawyers are going to challenge the deal between Axl and Sanctuary. Which if Duff wins that would result in more delays for CD. What a bunch of nice guys salsh and duff are hey? 

[ppbebe]

Yeah, I can see what you are saying. The deal could be struck down if the court rules that axl didn't own the publishing rights that he sold to Sanctuary for the next twenty years. Mysteron was correct; the gnr partnershp will not be happy with Sanctuary's role in ownership of the rights. I expect the consequences of the Slash/Duff v. Axl verdict just become substantially more grave for both sides.

you got me right perhaps. I was thinking about a long possible plot that was thickened with the release of GH and that lil S+D's suit. If so, now the word is soon and hey, what a cheek, whoever the wiser is. Yeah, Cheek it!

And no, I expect  the Karma of Slash/Duff v. Axl is coming to an end thanks to this deal. It's almost there. In large, maybe their suit is not that big deal to begin with. Further more, when the final verdict doesn?t seem to be brought in for, say a couple of decades easy, who is the wiser?

That?s just a thought but maybe correct.

[usurper]

I don't understand. Has Axl just written away his royalties and sold out?

[DazRose85]

Sp1at have incorrectly made a report out of the information posted on www.snakepit.org. Slash HASN'T issued a statement, the webmaster contacted his management for info. Read it again.