My final comparison, alice in chains lyrics vs u guessed it!

[POPmetal]

Oh please... what has bon jovi influenced MUSICALLY?? I mean really?? Let's be honest.?

Bon Jovi may have influenced the music industry as a whole, as far as what was being signed to recording contracts... because with the explosion of Bon Jovi came the rest of the "hair BLANDS" (not a typo) of the 80s.? This is not necessarily a good thing, in my opinion.? I mean, I could have lived my whole life without the likes of Europe and their music ever to have "graced" my eardrums.? If not for the hairband explosion, Europe would have likely never gotten signed.? But, instead, I have that stupid introduction to 'the final countdown' forever impressed in my memory.? ?

Now, for those of you who actually like Bon Jovi, good for you.? ?? Like I've said before, someone's gotta listen to them, better you than me.?

For those of us with a different (arguably better defined) taste in music, we see Bon Jovi and his influence/contribution to the music industry as nothing more than the residue that's left on a cheese sample platter ~ Something we could have just as well done without.

Lots of people wore Zubaz in the early 1990s too... they thought this was a "cool" fashion statement.? The idea really took off.? It doesn't mean it was a good idea.?

I view Bon Jovi and the influence/contribution of Bon Jovi much the same way... just because a lot of people bought into it, doesn't mean it was any good.

You can shit in a cd case, and sell it to someone, it doesn't make it anything other than what it is ... shit.

You're right. Your taste is "arguably better defined," arguably being the keyword there. Of course, in me and D's opinions our own tastes are better defined. Art is all relative.

And I suggest you get a clue before you start talking about things you don't know anything about. Europe is actually an older band than Bon Jovi. Europe formed in 81 and they were signed to Epic records before Bon Jovi exploded. So Bon Jovi or not, Europe would have happened anyway. Now as far as Bon Jovi's impact is concerned, they did pave the way for pop metal bands like Skid Row and Firehouse, and you can can sneer all you want, but whether you liked it or not, BJ was responsible for that shift. Maybe to you that's a bad thing, but again, that's just your opinion. I don't think pop metal was bad and, apparently, neither did Alice in Chains when they were opening for Warrant.

[Captain Obvious]

Has anyone ever heard of Alice In Chains in its early stages? I've never heard it but I hear it was really really bad. It was way back when all the guys were glammed out, trying to be like Poison I guess. Anyane heard those tracks?

[D]

who would buy shit in a cd case? 


alice in chains opened for warrant?


id love to see how many of the "cool" seattle bands were hair bands before they became uncool

i bet a lot of those dudes were in hair metal bands but before they could get signed, grunge came out so they switched real fast.


i still dont know what makes someone's lyrics better than someone elses

if u can relate to them they are great but its not like other "cooler" bands have a whole nother set of words that rhyme that no other band uses.

[Tied-Up]

And I suggest you get a clue before you start talking about things you don't know anything about. Europe is actually an older band than Bon Jovi. Europe formed in 81 and they were signed to Epic records before Bon Jovi exploded. So Bon Jovi or not, Europe would have happened anyway. Now as far as Bon Jovi's impact is concerned, they did pave the way for pop metal bands like Skid Row and Firehouse, and you can can sneer all you want, but whether you liked it or not, BJ was responsible for that shift. Maybe to you that's a bad thing, but again, that's just your opinion. I don't think pop metal was bad and, apparently, neither did Alice in Chains when they were opening for Warrant.

Europe is a swedish band... they didn't become internationally known until 1986, after Bon Jovi released their debut album in 1984. ? Europe may have sold records in Sweden (and also were selling well in Japan) but they weren't selling records in the states, and if the whole hair band thing hadn't happened... I don't think Europe would have "happened" here in the states.

who would buy shit in a cd case?

I don't know?  Bon Jovi fans?

[POPmetal]

And I suggest you get a clue before you start talking about things you don't know anything about. Europe is actually an older band than Bon Jovi. Europe formed in 81 and they were signed to Epic records before Bon Jovi exploded. So Bon Jovi or not, Europe would have happened anyway. Now as far as Bon Jovi's impact is concerned, they did pave the way for pop metal bands like Skid Row and Firehouse, and you can can sneer all you want, but whether you liked it or not, BJ was responsible for that shift. Maybe to you that's a bad thing, but again, that's just your opinion. I don't think pop metal was bad and, apparently, neither did Alice in Chains when they were opening for Warrant.

Europe is a swedish band... they didn't become internationally known until 1986, after Bon Jovi released their debut album in 1984. ? Europe may have sold records in Sweden (and also were selling well in Japan) but they weren't selling records in the states, and if the whole hair band thing hadn't happened... I don't think Europe would have "happened" here in the states.

Europe signed with Epic records in 1985 and Bon Jovi did not hit it big until late 1986 when Slippery When Wet came out (their '84 debut album was only a mild success and 7800 Fahrenheit was a flop). The Final Countdown was also released in 1986. Either way, the title track is so memorable that there's no way it wouldn't have "happened.' TFC could have came out in 1993 and it would have been a hit (though not as big).