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« on: January 14, 2005, 11:12:06 PM »

this is for those who shit on bon jovi and call Jon? untalented etc etc etc that say jon sucks and other bands are better etc. if someone can find better lyrics let me know, i just chose two at random

MAN IN THE BOX alice in chains

I'm the man in the box
Buried in my shit
Won't you come and save me, save me

[CHORUS]
Feed my eyes, can you sew them shut
Jesus Christ, deny your maker
He who tries, will be wasted
Feed my eyes now you've sewn them shut

I'm the dog who gets beat
Shove my nose in shit
Won't you come and save me, save me

WE DIE YOUNG alice in chains

Scary's on the wall
Scary's on his way

Watch where you spit
I'd advise you wait until it's over
Then you got hit
And you shoulda known better

And we die young
Faster we run

Down, down, down you're rollin'
Watch the blood float in the muddy sewer
Take another hit
And bury your brother

[CHORUS]

Scary's on the wall
Scary's on his way

Another alley trip
Bullet seeks the place to bend you over
Then you got hit
And you shoulda known better
 




Bon Jovi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Open All Night (lyrics music jon bon jovi

I saw you coming from a mile away
Trying to hide behind that pretty face
Bet my last dollar baby you been bruised
Poor little heart all black 'n' blue

Last thing you need's another pickup line
You must have heard them all a thousand times
God only knows what you been through
Believe me I been broken too

It aches, it breaks, it takes your breath away
I've been around that block a time or two

[Chorus:]
Baby, I don't want to fall in love with you
I try, try, try but I can't get around the truth
Please don't say my name, give this heart a break
I don't want to make the same mistake but it's too late
I'll leave on the light
These arms are open all night

I got your taste in the back of my mouth
I want to reach in and pull it out
And I'd be lying if I didn't say
When you're this close I'm afraid
Of the way I'll feel if I touch your hair
The way I'll miss you when you're not there
And that I'll see you when I close my eyes
It's too late, I've crossed that line

It breaks, it aches, it takes your breath away
I'll still be around come closing time

[Chorus:]
Baby, I don't want to fall in love with you
I try, try, try but I can only tell the truth
Please don't say my name, give this heart a break
I don't want to make the same mistake but it's too late
I'll leave on the light
These arms are open all night

[Guitar solo]

It's 2 am, it's last call, baby. The barkeep's gone, I'll walk you home now
Save me, baby

[Chorus:]
Baby, I don't want to fall in love with you
I try, try, try but I can only tell the truth
Please don't make me beg, give this heart a break
I don't want to make the same mistake but it's too late
I'll leave on the light
These arms are open all night



postcards from the wasteland lyrics by jon bon jovi


Tonight the moon is pretty as a brand new rose
And the nosey stars seem to know
Where everybody goes
As poets reach for words
With broken motel pens
Here's something to hold on to till I come home again
Here the days don't have names they got numbers
And the nights just seems to dance into each other
Sacred lovers are like fire flies each one has a spark
Trying to fill the whole where once there was a heart
I'm sending Postcards from the Wasteland
Following my headlights down the highway in the dark
I'm sending Postcards from the Wasteland
Postmarked from the state of my heart
In care of wherever you are postcards from the wasteland

Now before the summer sun gets chased away
And all of our tomorrows turn into yesterdays
I'm gonna build you that castle
I'm gonna write you that song
I gotta find the words to say
Until i hold you in my arms
I'm sending  Postcards from the Wasteland
Following my headlights down the highway in the dark
I'm sending Postcards from the Wasteland
Postmarked from the state of my heart
In care of wherever you are postcards from the wasteland


Tonight I'll meet you in my dreams
See you soon.
Love, me






jon is way more talented than any of u give him credit for!

if there are better AIC lyrics, post em!!! but u all will admit that jon isnt some talentless chessey bum, u may not like him but he isnt like some of u proclaim.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2005, 11:18:16 PM »

He's not talentless, but he is cheesy  ok

...And you should just let it go  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2005, 11:25:46 PM »

how?

thats what i dont get

define cheesy?

everyone artist has a little cheese hidin somewhere but his writing has drastically improved and is very very good now.

I am the DaveGnfnr2k of bon jovi land

thats why i dig what dave does cause he is passionate about something and he isnt afraid to put himself out there for what he believes in.

i am the same way

its more than music to me, the music is more like a brother or close friend and i take offense when people who have no idea dismiss it as cheese when it just isnt so.

have they wrote some cheese? yeah but that was in the 80's and its totally not like that now.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2005, 12:00:43 AM »

Alright. I'm up for this. Let me get my thoughts together here and find some good examples.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2005, 12:52:37 AM »

Ok, my favorite lyrics by Alice In Chains are probably:

There are a bunch more but I doubt anyone is interested in reading a ton of lyrics from songs they don't listen to.

I think AIC will always have a certain amount of credibility associated with them because, they never fell victims to overexposure,  their music was more metal than anything and they were able to seperate themselves from what people labelled as grunge. I think the only reason they are mentioned as part of the grunge movement is because they were from Seattle.

Secondly, this might be frustrating to a Bon Jovi fan but I doubt they will ever be remembered as truly gifted songwriters just because they wrote their fair share of "Party songs". Same with the Crue, Winger, and a bunch of other bands from that era.  Hell, they may be genius when it comes to songwriting, I don't know but what kind songs these bands wrote before will affect how the world perceives them now. You can't expect people to forget your past.

Thirdly, there isn't a whole lot that seperates Bon Jovi from similar hair bands, at least, that's how I feel people perceive them. They wrote similar music, made similar videos and generally, had the same style. I am really not sure how you can argue this. If Jon was, in fact,  more talented, it wasn't in the vocals department. The band made a successful comeback because, I will repeat this, their marketing team knew what they were doing. That, and Jon's good looks. They simply knew how to portray themselves, so they wouldn't appear like old, out-of-touch, washed up rockstars, something that alot of comeback bands fail to do.

Lastly, who had a greater impact on music as a whole? To this, I say, of course it was AIC.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2005, 01:23:37 AM »

D:  I looked it up for you, I got my webster's dictionary right here...

Cheesy:  Adjective.  1.  resembling or suggesting cheese, especially consisting in consistency or odor. 2.  containing cheese.  3.  Bon Jovi.

I swear.  Would I make this stuff up?

There's even a picture of Jon Bon Jovi.

So that settles it, Bon Jovi is the definition of cheesy.    ok
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2005, 01:26:03 AM »

Ok, my favorite lyrics by Alice In Chains are probably:

There are a bunch more but I doubt anyone is interested in reading a ton of lyrics from songs they don't listen to.

I think AIC will always have a certain amount of credibility associated with them because, they never fell victims to overexposure,  their music was more metal than anything and they were able to seperate themselves from what people labelled as grunge. I think the only reason they are mentioned as part of the grunge movement is because they were from Seattle.

Secondly, this might be frustrating to a Bon Jovi fan but I doubt they will ever be remembered as truly gifted songwriters just because they wrote their fair share of "Party songs". Same with the Crue, Winger, and a bunch of other bands from that era.  Hell, they may be genius when it comes to songwriting, I don't know but what kind songs these bands wrote before will affect how the world perceives them now. You can't expect people to forget your past.

Thirdly, there isn't a whole lot that seperates Bon Jovi from similar hair bands, at least, that's how I feel people perceive them. They wrote similar music, made similar videos and generally, had the same style. I am really not sure how you can argue this. If Jon was, in fact,  more talented, it wasn't in the vocals department. The band made a successful comeback because, I will repeat this, their marketing team knew what they were doing. That, and Jon's good looks. They simply knew how to portray themselves, so they wouldn't appear like old, out-of-touch, washed up rockstars, something that alot of comeback bands fail to do.

Lastly, who had a greater impact on music as a whole? To this, I say, of course it was AIC.

Now, I love AIC, but that last comment was just plain ridiculous. Bon Jovi at their hight was the biggest band on the whole planet. Not only that, but they managed to transcend different rock scenes and survive for decades and to this day continue to sell millions of records while selling out stadiums. And you wanna talk about "impact on music as a whole?!?!" Sorry, but AIC doesn't even come close. Not only rock bands, but even groups like Destiny's Child claim to be inspired by Bon Jovi.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2005, 01:35:54 AM »

thanks dude! finally someone comes to my defense!

listen dude, jons looks had nothing to do with it.

facts are if they wrote shitty music like a lot of the other 80's bands they wouldnt have made it.

grunge was the anti pretty boy good lookin bon jovi type

but the music kept them in the business

if they werent great songwriters and didnt have the songs, the looks and marketing wouldnt have mattered for shit.

Jon is a master at writing hooks, memorable catchy songs. Plus they always deliver and fans are like a cult for them.

who did AIC's influence anyway? I have no idea

id love to take an international poll, i think worldwide it would be quite shocking

bon jovi may not have had a great influence on music per se but why they are still vital and kicking ass and valid is cause they are a great influence to their fans and millions around the world.

that is a rare thing.

dont give me this "its cause jon is good lookin" I dont buy that at all. U cant see Jon on the radio or when u are listening to it in your car

so obviously the music is great, it has to be or they wouldve ended up in thescrap pile with everyone else.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2005, 01:38:38 AM »

D:

You were so persistent in getting Phil Anselmo off of the survivor game... have you read any pantera lyrics?

Try this one:

Shattered ? (by Pantera, Album: ?Cowboys from Hell)
It's storming broken glass, corpses left in piles
Ungracious bludgeonment that breaks the earth for miles
Nothing can stop it, the day has come, from below it's
catastrophic

Freezing, there's no healing families are dying
This world is shattered...All shattered

Life crushing turbulence, this wrath can't be denied
Wishing you could help your friends, standing where they died
Echoes haunting, a hollow planet, lacerations, dissected nation

Freezing, there's no healing everyone's dying
This world is shattered...All shattered

Freezing, there's no healing everyone's dying
This world is shattered, all shattered
All shattered
All shattered

Cemetary Gates (Pantera, Cowboys from Hell - Phil's vocals are amazing in this one)
Reverend, reverend
Is this some conspiracy
Crucified for no sins
An image beneath me
Lost within my plans for life
It all seems so unreal
I'm a man couldn't half feel this world
Left in my misery

The reverend he turned to me
Without a tear in his eyes
It's nothing new for him to see
I didn't ask him why
I will remember
The love our souls had
Sworn to make
Now I watch the falling rain
All my mind can see
Now is your (face)

Well I guess
You took my youth
I gave it all away
Like the birth of a
New-found joy
This love would end in rage
And when she died
I couldn't cry
The pride within my soul
You left me incomplete
All alone as the
Memories now unfold.

Believe the word
I will unlock my door
And pass the
Cemetery gates

Sometimes when I'm alone
I wonder aloud
If you're watching over me
Some place far abound
I must reverse my life
I can't live in the past
Then set my soul free
Belong to me at last
Through all those
Complex years
I thought I was alone
I didn't care to look around
And make this world my own
And when she died
I should've cried and spared myself some pain
You left me incomplete
All alone as the memories still remain

The way we were
The chance to save my soul
And my concern is now in vain
Believe the word
I will unlock my door
And pass the cemetery gates

The way we were
The chance to save my soul
And my concern is now in vain
Believe the word
I will unlock my door
And pass the cemetery gates

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2005, 01:59:42 AM »

this is for those who shit on bon jovi and call Jon  untalented etc etc etc that say jon sucks and other bands are better etc. if someone can find better lyrics let me know, i just chose two at random

OMG! Writing misery, boring love songs doesn?t make anyone talented.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2005, 02:10:26 AM »

As an Alice in Chains fan and a Bon Jovi fan ,I'll say that Bon Jovi is the better band all arounf out of the two.Now some may disagree ,and hell thats fine . ok


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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2005, 02:27:03 AM »

there ya go bring other bands in it


Pantera are or were awesome i never said they werent.

Did i ever say anything bad about pantera?


bon jovi have more than miserable love songs and yes it is talent to convey that type of emotion.

heres a great song for u that talks about this shitty state of the music industry called "last man standing" check out these lyrics


Last Man Standing check this out for real now

come see a living breathing spectacle
only seen right here
its your last chance of a lifetime the line forms at the rear

you wont believe your eyes your eyes will not believe your ears
get your money out get ready step right up yeah u come here

you aint seen nothin like him, the last one of the breed
you better hold onto your honey honeys dont forget to breathe
enter at your own risk mister  it might change the way you think
theres no dancers theres no diamonds no this boy dont lip synch

chorus:
heres the last man standing, step right up he's the real thing
the last chance of a lifetime come and see,hear,feel..... the real thing


see those real life calloused fingers
wrapped around those guitar strings
kiss the lips where hurt has lingered
it breaks your heart to hear him sing
the songs were more than  music
they were pictures from the soul
so keep your psuedo-punk,hip hop, J Lo junk and your digital downloads

repeat chorus.


take your seats now folks its showtime
hey patrick hit the lights
theres something in the air
theres magic in the night
now heres the band that really plays
ill count the first one in
i dont know where its goin
we all know where its been

repeat chorus



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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2005, 06:04:50 AM »

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One
(Hetfield,ulrich)

I Can't Remember Anything
Can't Tell If this Is True or Dream
Deep down Inside I Feel to Scream
this Terrible Silence Stops Me
Now That the War Is Through with Me
I'm Waking up I Can Not See
That There Is Not Much Left of Me
Nothing Is Real but Pain Now

Hold My Breath as I Wish for Death
Oh Please God,wake Me

Back in the Womb its Much Too Real
in Pumps Life That I must Feel
but Can't Look Forward to Reveal
Look to the Time When I'll Live
Fed Through the Tube That Sticks in Me
Just like a Wartime Novelty
Tied to Machines That Make Me Be
Cut this Life off from Me

Hold My Breath as I Wish for Death
Oh Please God,wake Me

Now the World Is Gone I'm Just One
Oh God,help Me Hold My Breath as I Wish for Death
Oh Please God Help Me

Darkness

Imprisoning Me
All That I See
Absolute Horror
I Cannot Live
I Cannot Die
Trapped in Myself
Body My Holding Cell

Landmine

Has Taken My Sight
Taken My Speech
Taken My Hearing
Taken My Arms
Taken My Legs
Taken My Soul
Left Me with Life in Hell

 
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2005, 07:08:11 AM »

I'm not the biggest Bon Jovi fan I must admit. However I have to give Jon credit for the way he managed to develop his voice over the years. That said, I really do think Bon Jovi is one the most cheesy bands out there. Especially in regards to the songwriting (lyrics for that matter). I mean whenever I manage to listen to a Bon Jovi album, afterwards it feels like I heard a guy sing the word "heart" at least 6000 times. No, I can perfecftly understand how someone can like this band, but the songwriting really isn't all that.

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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2005, 08:42:52 AM »

Bon Jovi are great that much is true, they can be mature most of that stuff though never get's released as singles.  They release the catchy ones to make more money simple like it or not, money is good hell i can't blame 'em.  Now if you don't like cheese there's gonna be a lot of Bon Jovi you won't like but there is definately talent, maturity and cheese in ample amounts.  To deny they are cheesy would be stupid because at times they are but not to the extent of many bands e.g. Poison another love of mine btw.  Now i understand why many don't like them, i can accept that, but they do have talent, i feel Richie Sambora showed that in his solo efforts, remember here it's not all about Jon and like i said everyone should check out These Days or listen to the amazing song Dry County.  They do have emotion in their songs but i feel people find it hard to find them credible as songs like Livin' On A Prayer have type-cast them for their entire careers just like The Final Countdown did to Europe.  At the end of the day like D and myself some people like a wide-range of music, some don't bridge certain gaps though and Alice In Chains & Bon Jovi are 2 very different bands.
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2005, 01:07:48 PM »

I think AIC will always have a certain amount of credibility associated with them because, they never fell victims to overexposure,

Excellent point, man.  If I had one piece of advice for bands, being the nobody that I am, it's that overexposure will cause critics and the public to diss the music simply because they've seen too much of the band.  Eventually they will say the lyrics are too cheesy, the look is too blah, etc, etc.

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Secondly, this might be frustrating to a Bon Jovi fan but I doubt they will ever be remembered as truly gifted songwriters just because they wrote their fair share of "Party songs".

yeah, darker songs are treated with more respect than the best party songs.   And when I mean dark, I dont mean breaking up with your girlfriend and crying about your achy breaky heart.   I dont think it's fair really, but what can you do. 

D, for me, Man in the box is more about the music & vocals than the lyrics whereas Down in a Hole has awesome lyrics.  That said, I also think Jovi's Blaze of Glory is a great song with great lyrics.  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2005, 06:55:51 PM »

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Secondly, this might be frustrating to a Bon Jovi fan but I doubt they will ever be remembered as truly gifted songwriters just because they wrote their fair share of "Party songs".

yeah, darker songs are treated with more respect than the best party songs.? ?And when I mean dark, I dont mean breaking up with your girlfriend and crying about your achy breaky heart.? ?I dont think it's fair really, but what can you do.?

Stoned basically already said this but apparently people weren't paying attention. Listen to Dry County, listen to Hey God, listen to My Guitar Lies Bleeding In My Arms, listen to Something To Believe In and then come back and tell me that Bon Jovi writes only party songs or that their dark songs are just about breaking up with your girlfriend. Fact is, they address a variety of subjects.

What you guys are doing is the equivalent of somebody who's only heard two or three AIC songs like Junkhead coming in and saying that they write about nothing but getting high and drugs.
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2005, 08:22:05 PM »

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Secondly, this might be frustrating to a Bon Jovi fan but I doubt they will ever be remembered as truly gifted songwriters just because they wrote their fair share of "Party songs".

yeah, darker songs are treated with more respect than the best party songs.? ?And when I mean dark, I dont mean breaking up with your girlfriend and crying about your achy breaky heart.? ?I dont think it's fair really, but what can you do.?

Stoned basically already said this but apparently people weren't paying attention. Listen to Dry County, listen to Hey God, listen to My Guitar Lies Bleeding In My Arms, listen to Something To Believe In and then come back and tell me that Bon Jovi writes only party songs or that their dark songs are just about breaking up with your girlfriend. Fact is, they address a variety of subjects.

What you guys are doing is the equivalent of somebody who's only heard two or three AIC songs like Junkhead coming in and saying that they write about nothing but getting high and drugs.
Everyone seems to be judging them on Slippery When wet, well just like GN'R have done a lotbeyond AFD BonJovi have done a lot beyond Slippery When Wet.  They have matured they still have cheese, but hell don't judge a band on a few songs.  That album was right for the period, a lot of you haters have said you bought it and liked it at the time.  Well just like you lot they've also matured and movec on and have more depth now.  They can do dark but suprisingly they realise people like...err...happy songs do songs have to be dark and depressing for you to like 'em for fucks sake they can do both they didn't fuck the drugs like these other bands or have the fucked up experiences just like the other bands they write about their experiences and downfalls they've just had more problems w/ women and less with drugs and had happier times.  They can and have done dark maybe not as much but hey that's just not their style, i just love the fact that many have admitted you liked 'em, you'll probably say im wrong but i think you ditched 'em when they weren't seen as 'cool' anymore not because you grew out of them or discovered better bands.......feel free to bash away Tongue  On a side note as mentioned this section is off topic to talk about other bands you like and there are plenty of us who like 'em so shit happens and then you die get over it, they have a following this board and we'll do our upmost to make sure Jon ain't the first off the survivor Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2005, 08:41:55 PM »

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Listen to Dry County, listen to Hey God, listen to My Guitar Lies Bleeding In My Arms, listen to Something To Believe In and then come back and tell me that Bon Jovi writes only party songs or that their dark songs are just about breaking up with your girlfriend. Fact is, they address a variety of subjects.

Reread the post. Nobody ever said that Bon jovi writes only party songs.

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Now, I love AIC, but that last comment was just plain ridiculous. Bon Jovi at their hight was the biggest band on the whole planet. Not only that, but they managed to transcend different rock scenes and survive for decades and to this day continue to sell millions of records while selling out stadiums. And you wanna talk about "impact on music as a whole?!?!" Sorry, but AIC doesn't even come close. Not only rock bands, but even groups like Destiny's Child claim to be inspired by Bon Jovi.

You must be fucking kidding me. I don't mean "who made the biggest impact on people's wallets". Bon Jovi might have inspired some bands here and there. AIC was heavily associated with a movement, as well as having its roots in  metal, it helped define the a large part of a decade in terms of rock music.

This discussion can continue for pages and pages, I doubt that it can change anybody's point of view. I don't think Bon Jovi is as talented as you claim him to be, I really don't see how you can change my mind. I also don't see how I can change yours. I don't see as much depth in his music as I do in AIC, and I doubt I will ever take them very seriously.
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2005, 09:07:43 PM »

im not trying to change peoples minds and convert everyone to be a bon jovi fan

that isnt what im doing.

im just trying to make people realize that there is way more to bon jovi than a few cheesy rock songs they did and are known for.

There are so many bands i dont like but i give them credit for their talent and what they do.

i cant really stand U2 but i would never come on here and say they suck or are talentless or what have u, same with so many other bands.

I am mainly arguing that they are talented songwriters and musicians *u dont have to like them or be a fan* but sayin they are the only band of that period to survive is only cause of a marketing team or jon's looks are very misguided untruths.

Bret Micheals was considered a very attractive lady's man frontman, no disrespect to poison fans but did they sell a hundred million records? are they still a driving force in music today?

just like no one can convince me that the only reason they sell out stadiums and arenas today is out of nostalgia. Nostalgia is a novelty when bands go away for a super long time and come back

bon jovi have been touring and releasing albums pretty regulary this decade, and their concert attendance is always or very close to max capacity.

U dont have to like them but dont judge them on a few songs. that isnt fair to do that to any band.
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