Slash On Leaving GNR

[Acquiesce]

Slash craves the spot light and NEEDS attention to feel cool, while Axl could just disappear for ever and axl would be fine with that. I love how slash still cant take accountabiity for taking a part in the break up of the band, he is still putting it all on Axl.? I am sorry but a 40 year old guy still writing songs about sex and drugs is not cool. That is why contraband is so lame. Slashs music never progressed like it should have.

You are an idiot. Are you a pschologist? Do you actually think this is how Slash acts? From everything I have read over the years and I can tell you this; slash is a laid back, soft spoken guy who would rather talk about his involvment with the guitar then anything about Axl. Axl is the piece of shit here my friend. And deserves all the blame for he fall of the real Gn'R.

Actually I have a psych degree, so I think I know what I am talking about. Plus I am very good at reading people and am dead on 99% of the time.? so there ya go.?

Wow, you should be a comedian because that was a hilarious. You have never even talked to Slash so how can you analyze him? Since you have a psych degree you should know that.

You do not need to talk to someone to analyze them. All you have to do is observe them or their actions.?

Did you barely pass for your psych degree? Sure, you can base an opinion on someone by just observing their actions but you cannot come up with a correct analysis on someone without talking to them. Again, you should know this. I find it a joke that you're pretending to be some kind of expert because you have a psych degree. Especially when your opinion of Slash is a load of BS that is biased because you have some bizarre obsession with putting down Slash to elevate Axl's status. How about I analyze you, Dave? After all, I have a pretty good idea of who you are since I've seen what you have to say for almost two years. Are you ready for my opinion? I did get an A in psychology, ya know.

yeah my opinion of slash is BS, I am sorry but its dead on and everyone knows it. Stop being in denial. And yes you can base an opinion on someone by observing their actions and what they have said over the past 20 years. It wont be indept but? you can get a very good idea of what a person is like. Sorry if you are just not good at it but that is not my problem now is it?? You can try? and bash me all you want but its just gonna make you look ignorant that? you cannot take someone critizing slash. ITs really said that you care what a person you? dont even know says about slash on a message board and feel the need to attack that person personally. Some of you really need to grow up already.

Dave, I'm just playing your game.

Your opinion is nothing but an opinion and stop saying otherwise. You're just a sad invididual who lives through Axl Rose. You relate to him in a way, except you wish you were only as cool and successful as he was. So when Axl is attacked you feel like it's a personal attack on you. You make it your life mission to defend Axl and put down those who you feel is against him to elevate Axl, but most importantly you feel like you're elevating yourself. Except you don't realize that time after time you make a fool out of yourself. You need to wake up and smell the coffee because you're no longer a 12 year old teenybopper. You're a grown man and you need to start acting like one.

No one cares if you criticize Slash. We're just sick and tired of your childish games.  You're now pretending to be some kind of expert and that you're opinion is the only right one and we're all a bunch of fools. I can't believe you're still this clueless after so many years. 

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Slash craves the spot light and NEEDS attention to feel cool, while Axl could just disappear for ever and axl would be fine with that. I love how slash still cant take accountabiity for taking a part in the break up of the band, he is still putting it all on Axl.? I am sorry but a 40 year old guy still writing songs about sex and drugs is not cool. That is why contraband is so lame. Slashs music never progressed like it should have.

You are an idiot. Are you a pschologist? Do you actually think this is how Slash acts? From everything I have read over the years and I can tell you this; slash is a laid back, soft spoken guy who would rather talk about his involvment with the guitar then anything about Axl. Axl is the piece of shit here my friend. And deserves all the blame for he fall of the real Gn'R.

Actually I have a psych degree, so I think I know what I am talking about. Plus I am very good at reading people and am dead on 99% of the time.? so there ya go.?

Wow, you should be a comedian because that was a hilarious. You have never even talked to Slash so how can you analyze him? Since you have a psych degree you should know that.

You do not need to talk to someone to analyze them. All you have to do is observe them or their actions.?

Did you barely pass for your psych degree? Sure, you can base an opinion on someone by just observing their actions but you cannot come up with a correct analysis on someone without talking to them. Again, you should know this. I find it a joke that you're pretending to be some kind of expert because you have a psych degree. Especially when your opinion of Slash is a load of BS that is biased because you have some bizarre obsession with putting down Slash to elevate Axl's status. How about I analyze you, Dave? After all, I have a pretty good idea of who you are since I've seen what you have to say for almost two years. Are you ready for my opinion? I did get an A in psychology, ya know.

yeah my opinion of slash is BS, I am sorry but its dead on and everyone knows it. Stop being in denial. And yes you can base an opinion on someone by observing their actions and what they have said over the past 20 years. It wont be indept but? you can get a very good idea of what a person is like. Sorry if you are just not good at it but that is not my problem now is it?? You can try? and bash me all you want but its just gonna make you look ignorant that? you cannot take someone critizing slash. ITs really said that you care what a person you? dont even know says about slash on a message board and feel the need to attack that person personally. Some of you really need to grow up already.

Dave, I'm just playing your game.

Your opinion is nothing but an opinion and stop saying otherwise. You're just a sad invididual who lives through Axl Rose. You relate to him in a way, except you wish you were only as cool and successful as he was. So when Axl is attacked you feel like it's a personal attack on you. You make it your life mission to defend Axl and put down those who you feel is against him to elevate Axl, but most importantly you feel like you're elevating yourself. Except you don't realize that time after time you make a fool out of yourself. You need to wake up and smell the coffee because you're no longer a 12 year old teenybopper. You're a grown man and you need to start acting like one.

No one cares if you criticize Slash. We're just sick and tired of your childish games.? You're now pretending to be some kind of expert and that you're opinion is the only right one and we're all a bunch of fools. I can't believe you're still this clueless after so many years.?

You are the sad person who takes an opinion about slash personally. And learn to read. READ MY SIG. I wrote it for Booker but it can apply to you too. And what games am I playing? I love people like you. Its ok to critize axl but god forbid anyone critize slash. People like? you? just keep proving my point for me, and I take you for that.

You really should take your own advice. You do not like what I have to say,then ignore my posts but the thing is you cannot because you know that I am right.? I am sorry I can back up what I say with examples. So why dont you try and do the same.? I am just not listening to slashs lies like you do and others that love slash.? Maybe when slash can get this story straight? and not keep changing his story then I will believe him, but you are the clueless when and its pathetic you do not even realize it.

[Intercourse]

Dave,
If you are a psychologist of some description, God help your patients because you sir, are stone mad, mad as a kite. Your sense of balance and the rabid quest for ?putting one over VR for Uncle Axl' amazes me. Do you ever tire?

What drives you? Why hate Slash so much? Axl has never sued Slash for slander for what he has said in the past so he either doesn?t care what Slash says, or knows it?s true. Either way, what are you worried about? These guys are two fucking millionaires, let them off, they will be fine.

I read in one of your mails that you destroyed your CB cd. Why? The band don?t care, your money is in Matt and Slash pocket right now CHA-CHING!!! Why not give it away to a kid or a charity store? Why destroy it? Is it rage with VR? An accident? What drives such anger and negativity towards total strangers Dave? What symbolism were you creating for yorself by destroying it? You obviously thought it was poignant because you shared it with us. Was that your symbolic destruction of VR?

I love both Axl & Slash and check here everyday for news on both men. However, trying to be as logical as possible I easily see that blame can be apportioned on both sides. I don?t know what exactly went on there but if all the old band are on one side and Axl is on the other, you generally would interpret that as an indication that the lions share of the issues are ?an Axl thing?.

You say Axls childhood abuse is also a factor in his beating of women and his erratic behavior.
If every man on this planet who was abused as a child used it as an excuse to beat up women and act like a cock to those closest to him then the world would be fucked. Not one psychologist would excuse such carry on which really shows you have no concept of the ramifications of psychological issues on relationships and what is and is not considered as ?tolerable? behavior by people with mental issues. 

Axl has been in therapy of some type or an other for over 15 years now and the guy still has more baggage than LAX. He still fucks off stage when he gets pissed (?Patience? Detroit 2002). It's not all mental issues it is also the fact  that the man is a DIVA period. Sometimes you just have to stop making millions of excuses for people and call it for what it is.

Intercourse

[dave-gnfnr2k]

slash fans keep showing their true colors and how pathetic they really are with all the name calling and personal attacks. Its so easy to piss you guys off, its not even funny.  Why do I hate slash so much? I could ask why people hate axl so much. Like I keep asking yet people like you NEVER answer. Why is ist always ok to talk bad about Axl yet when people talk bad about slash either the person doing it has problems or there much be hell to pay. Get over it already, and stop it with the personal attacks. Instead of doing that just try and refute what I have pointed out. OH wait I forgot you cannot refute what I say about slash buts its ALL  TRUE, that is why slash fans resort to name calling and bashing. 

Also you need to stop lying, where did you read I destoryed my CB CD? That is funny since I NEVER BOUGHT ONE, I said I boycotted the album and refused to buy it. So if  you are going to make up stuff at least try harder because you are looking like a fool saying I did something when I  never did. Nice try tho.

As for who is to blame again dont put words in my mouth, you are not smart enough to do that. I have always said Axl, slash and duff all had a part in the break up but most axl bashers just blame Axl. So again nice try but you are just lying about what i have said in the past.

About Axls abuse in his childhood being an excuse to beat up women or what have you, get a clue.  Most people that are abused as kids grow up to be abusers unless they can get help and break the cycle. If  you really want to comment on this atleast get a clue first.  You really should read up on stuff before making such a stupid claim that its not true.

I NEVER said its an excuse, I said its a factor and a reason why he did it.  Dont you even know how to read and not take things out of context?

So do some reading and get back to me  because you sir have no clue what you are talking about.

[Will]

Boy, people really don't change: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=17323.msg300004#msg300004

Another VR topic where Dave and Booker and the good ol' clique are involved and again the personal attacks, the good ol' "arguments", comments on Axl vs. Slash. You all should grow up. It's just a message board for Christ's sake.

Yes, Dave likes Axl and the new band and doesn't like VR. Yes, Booker and the clique like VR and Slash. Big Fuckin Deal. When all of you guys can participate in the same thread and avoid personal attacks and page long quoting monologues, you can have a thread talking about "Slash on leaving GN'R" or anything similar that will not get locked.

I said my piece, and this thread is locked.