Slash On Leaving GNR

[younggunner]

You still havent explained what drive he has lost...

The drive that creates music like he once created

What does this mean?? Slashs approach to making songs, or albums, hasnt really changed in 20 years.? Youre speaking in incredibly muddled terms.? How does Slash "jam" on albums when theres in fact no "jamming" on the album.? Everything is structured and concise.?

Hes not trying to change the face of music with his albums. Hes plugging it in and what comes out is the album. Hes not there trying to create a masterpiece.

Okay...again, he been that way for 20 years.? He was that way when he made Appetite For Destruction...a pretty important record.

Yes, and what has that same drive gotten him since he left gnr. CB is a nice album but it doesnt come close to what he did with gnr on a musical scale. Again, what is AFD? a in your face groundbreaking record. stick with that same formula and youll be right next to the likes of ACDC

Youre making stuff up again.? You cant find one instance when Ive done this...but please, dont allow me to stop you from making things up.

"you are all" thats what I said. A lot of peopel on these boards go out of their way to credit Izzy and say how hes the behinds the scenes gem of GNR. Plus you made the comment of Axls signing it, hes allowing it, its a gnr song. Yea and? That doesnt mean he wrote the song. I know a lot of people would like to jump on Axl every chance they can so they can further Slash's justification of not being in the band but fact is the music is a band effort. Bandmembers have said it and Axl has credited 2 of his bandmembers for a song.

You can slice it anyway you want, Axl and Slash have completely different musical philosophies. One is the type peoples type of rockstar and wants to just get out there, lay down some tracks and hit the road whereas the other is the crazy rockstar who wants to take his time and make a meaningful album.

[electricmage]

Slash craves the spot light and NEEDS attention to feel cool, while Axl could just disappear for ever and axl would be fine with that. I love how slash still cant take accountabiity for taking a part in the break up of the band, he is still putting it all on Axl.? I am sorry but a 40 year old guy still writing songs about sex and drugs is not cool. That is why contraband is so lame. Slashs music never progressed like it should have.

You are an idiot. Are you a pschologist? Do you actually think this is how Slash acts? From everything I have read over the years and I can tell you this; slash is a laid back, soft spoken guy who would rather talk about his involvment with the guitar then anything about Axl. Axl is the piece of shit here my friend. And deserves all the blame for he fall of the real Gn'R.

[jarmo]

How about you leave out the "insults" from your future posts?






/jarmo

[Falcon]

Hes not there trying to create a masterpiece.

Neither were the Sex Pistols or that band out of Seattle (notice I didn't use the "N" word), widely cited as 2 of the most influential bands of the last 25+ years that "changed the face of music".

Keep in mind, words like "meaningful" and "masterpiece" are all in the ears of the beholder.  It seems you've fallen into the trap of playing down someone elses recent artistic accomplishments by elevating someone elses perceived creative intention.

[younggunner]

Neither were the Sex Pistols or that band out of Seattle (notice I didn't use the "N" word), widely cited as 2 of the most influential bands of the last 25+ years that "changed the face of music".

Im not saying that in order to create a masterpiece you have to go in it thinking that way. Im well aware that most of the greatest albums of all time are ones that come out of nowhere and done in a short period of time...

But im not talking about that. Im not debating which philosophy is better or right. What I said in my first post was that Axl takes music much more seriosuly than SLash.

Keep in mind, words like "meaningful" and "masterpiece" are all in the ears of the beholder.  It seems you've fallen into the trap of playing down someone elses recent artistic accomplishments by elevating someone elses perceived creative intention.

This has nothing to do with what VR has done. I was discussing the whole cool image topic with Slash and how compared to Axl he is as serious as Axl.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Slash craves the spot light and NEEDS attention to feel cool, while Axl could just disappear for ever and axl would be fine with that. I love how slash still cant take accountabiity for taking a part in the break up of the band, he is still putting it all on Axl.? I am sorry but a 40 year old guy still writing songs about sex and drugs is not cool. That is why contraband is so lame. Slashs music never progressed like it should have.

You are an idiot. Are you a pschologist? Do you actually think this is how Slash acts? From everything I have read over the years and I can tell you this; slash is a laid back, soft spoken guy who would rather talk about his involvment with the guitar then anything about Axl. Axl is the piece of shit here my friend. And deserves all the blame for he fall of the real Gn'R.

Actually I have a psych degree, so I think I know what I am talking about. Plus I am very good at reading people and am dead on 99% of the time.  so there ya go. 

[SLCPUNK]

Slash craves the spot light and NEEDS attention to feel cool, while Axl could just disappear for ever and axl would be fine with that. I love how slash still cant take accountabiity for taking a part in the break up of the band, he is still putting it all on Axl.? I am sorry but a 40 year old guy still writing songs about sex and drugs is not cool. That is why contraband is so lame. Slashs music never progressed like it should have.

No I think it is much more simple than that.

I think Slash is out working and Axl is not.

Not in public anyway.

That's it.

[Acquiesce]

Slash craves the spot light and NEEDS attention to feel cool, while Axl could just disappear for ever and axl would be fine with that. I love how slash still cant take accountabiity for taking a part in the break up of the band, he is still putting it all on Axl.? I am sorry but a 40 year old guy still writing songs about sex and drugs is not cool. That is why contraband is so lame. Slashs music never progressed like it should have.

You are an idiot. Are you a pschologist? Do you actually think this is how Slash acts? From everything I have read over the years and I can tell you this; slash is a laid back, soft spoken guy who would rather talk about his involvment with the guitar then anything about Axl. Axl is the piece of shit here my friend. And deserves all the blame for he fall of the real Gn'R.

Actually I have a psych degree, so I think I know what I am talking about. Plus I am very good at reading people and am dead on 99% of the time.? so there ya go.?

Wow, you should be a comedian because that was a hilarious. You have never even talked to Slash so how can you analyze him? Since you have a psych degree you should know that.

[Narcissa]

Slash craves the spot light and NEEDS attention to feel cool

that's an uneducated assumption. Sort it out.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Slash craves the spot light and NEEDS attention to feel cool, while Axl could just disappear for ever and axl would be fine with that. I love how slash still cant take accountabiity for taking a part in the break up of the band, he is still putting it all on Axl.? I am sorry but a 40 year old guy still writing songs about sex and drugs is not cool. That is why contraband is so lame. Slashs music never progressed like it should have.

You are an idiot. Are you a pschologist? Do you actually think this is how Slash acts? From everything I have read over the years and I can tell you this; slash is a laid back, soft spoken guy who would rather talk about his involvment with the guitar then anything about Axl. Axl is the piece of shit here my friend. And deserves all the blame for he fall of the real Gn'R.

Actually I have a psych degree, so I think I know what I am talking about. Plus I am very good at reading people and am dead on 99% of the time.? so there ya go.?

Wow, you should be a comedian because that was a hilarious. You have never even talked to Slash so how can you analyze him? Since you have a psych degree you should know that.

You do not need to talk to someone to analyze them. All you have to do is observe them or their actions. 

[Narcissa]

You do not need to talk to someone to analyze them. All you have to do is observe them or their actions.?

Okay !

Based on my observations of you and your actions, I conclude you're a moron.

I MUST BE RIGHT, yes ?

Whatever.

[Mikkamakka]

Dave, whether you have a psychology degree or not (which I doubt you have), you are so obsessed with Axl that you've lost  your sense for judgement and reality doesn't disturb you. Being a psychiatrist/psychologist you should analyze yourself at first.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Dave, whether you have a psychology degree or not (which I doubt you have), you are so obsessed with Axl that you've lost? your sense for judgement and reality doesn't disturb you. Being a psychiatrist/psychologist you should analyze yourself at first.

You can doubt what ever you want.  And people like you are a joke. Its always ok for there to be huge slash fans but never huge axl fans.  And I am sorry but you really need to come back to reality. 

[Falcon]

You do not need to talk to someone to analyze them. All you have to do is observe them or their actions.?

OK then Dr. Dave, since you've done an out patient diagnosis on Slash and concluded him a "spotlight craver" , please give the forum your unbiased professional opinion of one Axl Rose.

Be prepared to field questions on your conclusions.

[Mikkamakka]

You do not need to talk to someone to analyze them. All you have to do is observe them or their actions.?

OK then Dr. Dave, since you've done an out patient diagnosis on Slash and concluded him a "spotlight craver" , please give the forum your unbiased professional opinion of one Axl Rose.

Be prepared to field questions on your conclusions.

Dave, you can start with your Slash analysis. C'mon, don't be afraid using psychological terms. C'mon. And the analyze Axl.

[echrisl]

You do not need to talk to someone to analyze them. All you have to do is observe them or their actions. 

OK then Dr. Dave, since you've done an out patient diagnosis on Slash and concluded him a "spotlight craver" , please give the forum your unbiased professional opinion of one Axl Rose.

Be prepared to field questions on your conclusions.

That is an excellent idea Falcon!  How about it Dave?  Want to break down the mental functions of one W. Axl Rose to share with all?

[Acquiesce]

Slash craves the spot light and NEEDS attention to feel cool, while Axl could just disappear for ever and axl would be fine with that. I love how slash still cant take accountabiity for taking a part in the break up of the band, he is still putting it all on Axl.? I am sorry but a 40 year old guy still writing songs about sex and drugs is not cool. That is why contraband is so lame. Slashs music never progressed like it should have.

You are an idiot. Are you a pschologist? Do you actually think this is how Slash acts? From everything I have read over the years and I can tell you this; slash is a laid back, soft spoken guy who would rather talk about his involvment with the guitar then anything about Axl. Axl is the piece of shit here my friend. And deserves all the blame for he fall of the real Gn'R.

Actually I have a psych degree, so I think I know what I am talking about. Plus I am very good at reading people and am dead on 99% of the time.? so there ya go.?

Wow, you should be a comedian because that was a hilarious. You have never even talked to Slash so how can you analyze him? Since you have a psych degree you should know that.

You do not need to talk to someone to analyze them. All you have to do is observe them or their actions.?

Did you barely pass for your psych degree? Sure, you can base an opinion on someone by just observing their actions but you cannot come up with a correct analysis on someone without talking to them. Again, you should know this. I find it a joke that you're pretending to be some kind of expert because you have a psych degree. Especially when your opinion of Slash is a load of BS that is biased because you have some bizarre obsession with putting down Slash to elevate Axl's status. How about I analyze you, Dave? After all, I have a pretty good idea of who you are since I've seen what you have to say for almost two years. Are you ready for my opinion? I did get an A in psychology, ya know.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

You do not need to talk to someone to analyze them. All you have to do is observe them or their actions.?

OK then Dr. Dave, since you've done an out patient diagnosis on Slash and concluded him a "spotlight craver" , please give the forum your unbiased professional opinion of one Axl Rose.

Be prepared to field questions on your conclusions.

We all know Axl is bi polar and you can see it in his actions. He also is a perfectionst and never thinks his work is good enough thus that is why the album is taking forever to be released.  Axls child hood abuse is also a factor in his beating of women and his erratic behavior. 

Havent we already gone over this before?

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Slash craves the spot light and NEEDS attention to feel cool, while Axl could just disappear for ever and axl would be fine with that. I love how slash still cant take accountabiity for taking a part in the break up of the band, he is still putting it all on Axl.? I am sorry but a 40 year old guy still writing songs about sex and drugs is not cool. That is why contraband is so lame. Slashs music never progressed like it should have.

You are an idiot. Are you a pschologist? Do you actually think this is how Slash acts? From everything I have read over the years and I can tell you this; slash is a laid back, soft spoken guy who would rather talk about his involvment with the guitar then anything about Axl. Axl is the piece of shit here my friend. And deserves all the blame for he fall of the real Gn'R.

Actually I have a psych degree, so I think I know what I am talking about. Plus I am very good at reading people and am dead on 99% of the time.? so there ya go.?

Wow, you should be a comedian because that was a hilarious. You have never even talked to Slash so how can you analyze him? Since you have a psych degree you should know that.

You do not need to talk to someone to analyze them. All you have to do is observe them or their actions.?

Did you barely pass for your psych degree? Sure, you can base an opinion on someone by just observing their actions but you cannot come up with a correct analysis on someone without talking to them. Again, you should know this. I find it a joke that you're pretending to be some kind of expert because you have a psych degree. Especially when your opinion of Slash is a load of BS that is biased because you have some bizarre obsession with putting down Slash to elevate Axl's status. How about I analyze you, Dave? After all, I have a pretty good idea of who you are since I've seen what you have to say for almost two years. Are you ready for my opinion? I did get an A in psychology, ya know.

yeah my opinion of slash is BS, I am sorry but its dead on and everyone knows it. Stop being in denial. And yes you can base an opinion on someone by observing their actions and what they have said over the past 20 years. It wont be indept but  you can get a very good idea of what a person is like. Sorry if you are just not good at it but that is not my problem now is it?  You can try  and bash me all you want but its just gonna make you look ignorant that  you cannot take someone critizing slash. ITs really said that you care what a person you  dont even know says about slash on a message board and feel the need to attack that person personally. Some of you really need to grow up already.

[killingvector]

IMO, CB isn't much of a departure from the styles of AFD and Plush; it is exactly what you expect from an amalgamation of STP and GnR minus the redhead and the DeLeo brothers. I felt much the same way after the AudioSlave album; it was a good effort but lacked any surprises. This doesn't mean either work isn't quality. But the truly great bands are greater than the sum of their parts; when AFD dropped, the combined talents of those five guys melded in such a way that outshone anything they had ever done before. I am expecting something similiar with the Chinese Democracy record; I expect greatness and therefore it doesn't matter if this takes 5 years or 10 as long as the quality is there.