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Quote from: Kayoss on January 01, 2005, 07:16:46 PM
I somewhat agree.? For me Contraband was a real let-down.? A barely average rock album from an all-star line-up.? I wouldn't call it one of the worst albums of the year by any means but was definitely expecting a much better musical effort especially considering all the hype that followed 'the project' for over a year.? The album doesn't even come close to 2004's "The System Has Failed" by Megadeth which is basically Dave Mustaine's solo project with the Deth name.? VR sold alot of records but as far as the quality of the music they need Axl alot more than they think.
It's funny how you hear Matt Sorum and Slash bash the ballads Axl wrote and the artistic direction he wanted to take the band before realizing that GN'R's most memorable and still talked about songs
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the ballads (with the exception of WTTJ).? I highly doubt anyone (other than the die-hards) will still be discussing "Slither" & "Fall To Pieces" in 5 to 10 years.
Hey man!! Rock the fuck on!! Megadeth's "The System Has Failed" kicks ass!!! It is my second favorite album of the last year behind "Contraband". I wish more people listened to the last Megadeth album. Kick The Chair, Blackmail The Universe, The Scorpion, Truth Be Told all great... I still like Contraband better though, for awhile they were flipping back and forth but Contraband came out like 4 months before and I still listen to it more. The are both in my disc changer though....
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i havent posted yet cause its entirely bullshit
contraband is a? great album
i think scott pissed off some critics and they are paying VR back for it
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Quote from: AxemanOnFire on December 30, 2004, 04:32:02 PM
I cannot think of a major rock release this year that's been better than VR (not counting Greatest Hits albums by old bands such as Gn'R, I mean new music).
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Some of you guys seriously need to look a little harder. Just because something hasnt reached number 1 doesnt mean its not good.
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Quote from: AxemanOnFire on December 30, 2004, 04:32:02 PM
I cannot think of a major rock release this year that's been better than VR (not counting Greatest Hits albums by old bands such as Gn'R, I mean new music).
Silvertide: Show and Tell.
Some of you guys seriously need to look a little harder. Just because something hasnt reached number 1 doesnt mean its not good.
It's a great album but not as good as CB. The songs blur too much in the same sound/melody and the ballads are simply of Nickelback standard. They cannot touch LTA, FTP and YGNR.
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Quote from: Ignatius on December 31, 2004, 01:38:53 PM
This is not about having an opinion, this is about some of you just can't take the fact that some publications do bash Contraband.
No, as has been said before, its 'Corny 80s hair metal trying to be punk' that everyone's got a problem with. I mean, how the hell is
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Or Scott, or Matt... both of them have short hair, so that makes every musician, with short, bald or long hair "hair metal" then...
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Quote from: Kayoss on January 01, 2005, 07:16:46 PM
The album doesn't even come close to 2004's "The System Has Failed" by Megadeth which is basically Dave Mustaine's solo project with the Deth name.?
I like Megadeth but I really thought that "The System Has Failed" is weak! Damn boring with no catches whatsoever. Thanks but no thanks, Dave; I'll stick to my Rust In Piece and Countdown To Extinction.
Contraband rocks imo. It's not a classic but a very strong rock album indeed.
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Yeah, CB is fine, it doesn't belong on a best or worst list.
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Quote from: otgm on January 05, 2005, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: Kayoss on January 01, 2005, 07:16:46 PM
The album doesn't even come close to 2004's "The System Has Failed" by Megadeth which is basically Dave Mustaine's solo project with the Deth name.?
I like Megadeth but I really thought that "The System Has Failed" is weak! Damn boring with no catches whatsoever. Thanks but no thanks, Dave; I'll stick to my Rust In Piece and Countdown To Extinction.
Contraband rocks imo. It's not a classic but a very strong rock album indeed.
Wow, you need to give it another listen man. You are the ONLY Megadeth fan that I have heard this from. This album is liek the follow up to Rust In Peace...To each is own I guess, but I would give it another listen or 2...Oh my broken heart....
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Quote from: tomass74 on January 05, 2005, 10:52:59 PM
Wow, you need to give it another listen man. You are the ONLY Megadeth fan that I have heard this from. This album is liek the follow up to Rust In Peace...To each is own I guess, but I would give it another listen or 2...Oh my broken heart....
I actually have listened to it a couple of times... The only good songs are Die Dead Enough, Back In The Day and Something That I'm Not.
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Quote from: tomass74 on January 02, 2005, 09:47:34 PM
I don't expect everyone to like it. If people remember Gn'R would get voted for worst and best band in readers polls back in the day. What can ya do?
It just doesn't make sense to me that an album that is 1.5 times platinum, still selling 50,000 a week 6 months after it' srelease, and two very succesful singles still getting mad airplay is one of the worst?
.? If the album sucked, it would have sold the initial 250,000 copies and copies would have fell of tehg face of the earth...
I am still loving it....
Britney Spears albums triple what VR sold does that mean he albums are the best of the year? Album sales dont = how good an album is. If Contrband was the same album without the slash and duff in it, you guys would not be saying its great, i bet noone of you would have gotten it.
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Quote from: tomass74 on January 02, 2005, 09:47:34 PM
I don't expect everyone to like it. If people remember Gn'R would get voted for worst and best band in readers polls back in the day. What can ya do?
It just doesn't make sense to me that an album that is 1.5 times platinum, still selling 50,000 a week 6 months after it' srelease, and two very succesful singles still getting mad airplay is one of the worst?
.? If the album sucked, it would have sold the initial 250,000 copies and copies would have fell of tehg face of the earth...
I am still loving it....
Britney Spears albums triple what VR sold does that mean he albums are the best of the year? Album sales dont = how good an album is.? If Contrband was the same album without the slash and duff in it, you guys would not be saying its great, i bet noone of you would have gotten it.?
Contraband couldn't be the same album without Duff and Slash. oops, you still haven't realized that they are irreplacable.
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The Slither guitar solo is the best I have heard in YEARS.
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I really wish critics would listen to music instead of just stereotyping and chastising it straight from the get-go.
I mean, Slippery When Wet by Bon Jovi is hair metal extreme... Contraband sounds nothing at all like that, nothing GNR ever released was ever like that, and STP certainly were never like that. It's such a fucking stupid comparison, I can't believe the miseducation and swill that passes for music journalism. These amateurs disgust me.
i don't mind reading negative reviews about VR when the author backs up his opinion by quoting specific parts, what songs they don't like, why they don't like them, what's wrong with those lyrics and that guitar riff etc.
They just see "featuring blah blah ex-GNR blah" on the album cover and somehow come to the conclusion of hair metal... daft is what it is
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Dave considering Velvet Revolver was founded by Duff and Slash its safe to say that without them on the cd there wouldnt be a Velvet Revolver at all.
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2. Green Day, "American Idiot." The first punk-rock opera, with a daring, political theme and enough inspiring riffs
to make this the "Quadrophenia" of its generation.
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Got to agree you can't compare Green Day to WHO. Afteral in interviews GD was talking about messing around with different kiddie toys to make their album. Pete Townsend is a genuis and doesnt waste time dicking around but rather writes good songs and good stories. Quadrophenia is compareable at best the the Who's TOMMY. Now is they are hinting at American Idiot being anywhere near Tommy, Daltry needs to swing his mike and slap them straight.
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Quote from: tomass74 on January 02, 2005, 09:47:34 PM
I don't expect everyone to like it. If people remember Gn'R would get voted for worst and best band in readers polls back in the day. What can ya do?
It just doesn't make sense to me that an album that is 1.5 times platinum, still selling 50,000 a week 6 months after it' srelease, and two very succesful singles still getting mad airplay is one of the worst?
.? If the album sucked, it would have sold the initial 250,000 copies and copies would have fell of tehg face of the earth...
I am still loving it....
Britney Spears albums triple what VR sold does that mean he albums are the best of the year? Album sales dont = how good an album is.? If Contrband was the same album without the slash and duff in it, you guys would not be saying its great, i bet noone of you would have gotten it.?
I wouldn't have gotten it the day it came out. I usually won't buy an album from any band that I do not know unless I hear 3 songs that I like first. I would have never heard Set me Free, but I would have atleast heard "SLither", "FTP" and "Dirty Little Thing". Those songs would have gotten me to buy the album....And it if sucked I wouldn't still be listening to it. I heard Duff's loaded album and decided not to get it. The last Snakepit album came out and I really tried to like it but didn't. Aerosmith is my favorite band and I buy their new shit but if it sucks like "Just Push Play" I don't listen to it. There is no Agenda here... The only thing I can think of is that you must sit there and force yourself to try and like songs such as "Silkworms" and "Rhyad" or whatever it is called. You can go ahead with your pathetic little ways and twist and turn it as much as you want. But reguardless of how bad it eats you up, "Contraband" is a great , succesful rock album... It gets better with every listen as a matter of fact...
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Quote from: tomass74 on January 02, 2005, 09:47:34 PM
It just doesn't make sense to me that an album that is 1.5 times platinum, still selling 50,000 a week 6 months after it' srelease, and two very succesful singles still getting mad airplay is one of the worst?
.? If the album sucked, it would have sold the initial 250,000 copies and copies would have fell of tehg face of the earth...
I am still loving it....
How does an album go 1.5 times platinum? I know it has sold almost 1,500,000 million copies but you don't need to say 1.5 times platinum trying to talk the album up to be larger then it is. That is how you can tell someone is a hardcore VR fan calling it 1.5 times platinum. Its an album by a supergroup that hit 1x platinum, I like Scott, Slash, and VR but to be honest I was a little disappointed. I enjoy CB and think it is a great cd but I would say it lived up to about 80% of the hype I had for it.
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How does an album go 1.5 times platinum?? I know it has sold almost 1,500,000 million copies but you don't need to say 1.5 times platinum trying to talk the album up to be larger then it is. That is how you can tell someone is a hardcore VR fan calling it 1.5 times platinum. Its an album by a supergroup that hit 1x platinum, I like Scott, Slash, and VR but to be honest I was a little disappointed.? I enjoy CB and think it is a great cd but I would say it lived up to about 80% of the hype I had for it.
Because the context in which he used that figure was intended to show how many records theyve sold, and 1.5 million is quite different than 1 million. Saying "1.5 times platinum" is poor wording, but the figure is accurate, therefore hes not talking it up larger than it is - thats
what it is
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i couldn't stop laughing for a couple of inutes when i read the hair-metal thing. i mean what idiot/s wrote that?
they obviously don't know shit about hair metal and look at dave, matt and scott. especially dave (can you see
his hair??!!) and all the rap albums on the top 1o best also pissed me off. like we haven't had enough of that.
CB was disappointing, at least to me, but they had no reason to put it even close to the top 5 worst albums.
some songs really kick ass!!
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The album doesn't even come close to 2004's "The System Has Failed" by Megadeth which is basically Dave Mustaine's solo project with the Deth name.
I like Megadeth but I really thought that "The System Has Failed" is weak! Damn boring with no catches whatsoever. Thanks but no thanks, Dave; I'll stick to my Rust In Piece and Countdown To Extinction.
Contraband rocks imo. It's not a classic but a very strong rock album indeed.
Wow, you need to give it another listen man. You are the ONLY Megadeth fan that I have heard this from. This album is liek the follow up to Rust In Peace...To each is own I guess, but I would give it another listen or 2...Oh my broken heart....
The System has Failed was a very impressive album. I didn't think it was knock me over good at first, but after a couple listens I like almost every track. I thought Contraband was a bit better, but I still thought The System has Failed was the 2nd best album of 2004.
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