Richard might be busy for the next year

[pilferk]

Obviously I can't post album tracks on the site, but you can listen to clips @ Amazon.com.

Obviously people who listen to heavy metal might not like it.?




/jarmo

I just want to add another testimonial, here.  Tommy's album is brilliant stuff....and I would never, ever have bought it had he not been affiliated with GnR.

Don't miss out on VGH.  It's well worth a listen!

[younggunner]

That's because the gnr with slash and duff was the one we grew up with and loved, we got the best music forever from them, without them there is no second addition of gnr..

thats all fine and dandy but its over 

New guys did a few boots and some live shows, besides that who really klnows these guys, and why would I wna tto search into their outside life in music when I haven't gotten anything from the new gnr??

No1 said you had to but dont call yourself a fan of this band then...

I personally only want a new gnr record and then if I like it and get to know the current band members then I migfht be more inclined to follow their other work when they aren't playing with gnr..

What better way to know the band members than by listening to there solo stuff? We alll want CD. But in the measntime you have albums and other stuff to keep you occupied. Tommys album is great. From start to finish. It has a littl ebit of everything. You should really check it ut. It might give you an idea of why they are in GNr now...

[norway]

mike and young gunner has always these loooong chats with eachother 
hm... seen it?

and richard not gonna do that huh?

[ppbebe]

young gunner is trying to open Mike?s eyes.

Sorry, but a GN'R fan doesn't have to be interested in the members solo career. That's it.

But how many people outside the GN'R fan base went out and bought Duff's "Believe In Me" or the Slash's Snakepit albums? Most fans are interested.

Oops! Sorry. 
But I don't think a GN'R fan have to be interested in all the ex-members? careers of post GNR.

[mikegiuliana]

young gunner is trying to open Mike?s eyes.

Sorry, but a GN'R fan doesn't have to be interested in the members solo career. That's it.

But how many people outside the GN'R fan base went out and bought Duff's "Believe In Me" or the Slash's Snakepit albums? Most fans are interested.

Oops! Sorry.?
But I don't think a GN'R fan have to be interested in all the ex-members? careers of post GNR.

My eyes are wide open, if you would pay attention to me you would understand why I said what I did.. I had mentioned the lineup has changed two times at least since they started performing as a new band live and no one even gets bent about it.. SHows how much interest is in the band alone compared to just axl..

Second the reason I also mentioned not wanting to get into the side projects is because the band is always subject to change before anything happens, so these guys are nothign to me until they create an album on to the fans and the rest of the world.. Right now I ONLY care about the new and only album from a band that's been around since the late 90's..

What better way to know the band members than by listening to there solo stuff? We alll want CD. But in the measntime you have albums and other stuff to keep you occupied. Tommys album is great. From start to finish. It has a littl ebit of everything. You should really check it ut. It might give you an idea of why they are in GNr now...

Thanks but I'll get to know the band better when they play for the group I want listen to.. I shouldn't have to do things half ass backwards to get to know a band that's supposed to be guns n roses throught their solo work,.,

 I explained once I gett o hear the band I might want to check out their solo stuff, but until then I have no real interest involving gnr members unless axl roses is singing on the album..

FInally I agree with ppbebe about ex members..

[Pandora]

I had mentioned the lineup has changed two times at least since they started performing as a new band live and no one even gets bent about it.. SHows how much interest is in the band alone compared to just axl..

I don't really agree with that. When Buckethead left, a lot of people here were pissed or disappointed. Some were really into the guy and his style.

Second the reason I also mentioned not wanting to get into the side projects is because the band is always subject to change before anything happens, so these guys are nothign to me until they create an album on to the fans and the rest of the world..

I don't get it. You mean that if you buy one of their side projects, you might happen to like it. But if they leave or are fired, then you won't like the record anymore? To me a good album remains a good album, whatever happens. No offense, I'm just trying to understand your line of reasoning

[younggunner]

I had mentioned the lineup has changed two times at least since they started performing as a new band live and no one even gets bent about it..

It really hasnt. Tobias wasnt going to be a member of GNR. So the 2002 tour was the band. Next time we see it hopefully Bucket somehow is still around otherwise 1 part will have changed.

I got bent out of shape when I heard Bucket left. SO did many people hear. Buckethead is great and would be a great fixture in the band and the future.

Thanks but I'll get to know the band better when they play for the group I want listen to.

Well Im assuming you want to listen to gnr, therefor they are members that play in gnr.

but until then I have no real interest involving gnr members unless axl roses is singing on the album..

Thats fine. We all wanna hear Axl. But there are people here who are actually fans of the whole band and the members as well.

[mikegiuliana]

I meant right now I have no interest in buying their albums simply because it's somethign to hold me over, or because they are new gnr members,, Usually when I go for a side project it's when I like a band already and get to know the players better.. After liking a band for a while and seeing what they are about they sometimes do something on their own during downtime and if I like the band they were in before the project I will look into their other work.

Also part of me just doesn't want to listen to anything involving these new guys until they put something on the table to listen to involving the band I want to hear most...
If I went out and bought an album everytime someone said one was good I would buy one every week..

I saw it was ranked number 40 in a front page article, that's pretty bad for a good/great album..

I'm sticking to what I said, if n when the band plays with gnr and they make music I enjoy I will step outsiude fo guns nad check out their other stuff.. Right now these guys are no one to me, I can't get excited because hookers n blow are playing ro something like that. Right now anything involvng new gnr ?I don't want to bother with the delays piss me off and anything outside of the band annoys me more then anything..
 To think the album is done for so long and these guys string the fans along nad then nothing happens really turns me off to their music ,sometimes it's like they use the gnr name tro promote their solo work..
ANyways I did get into buckethead because I saw the potential and how awesome he played live ..
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As for the other part with members leaving and people not getting pissed, true a few weren't happy because they liked BH, but I saw more that guy was a freak and he delyed the albums so fuck him.. People turned on him pretty fast and he seemed to be the second favorite of the new lineup..

[younggunner]

I saw it was ranked number 40 in a front page article, that's pretty bad for a good/great album..

Ive seen a #1 ranked rock album of the year on magazines, etc, heard it and didnt think it was so nicey.
Plus VGH isnt on any radio playlists or any major promotion. Its just an album to enjoy for those who actually come across it and listen

sometimes it's like they use the gnr name tro promote their solo work..

an example of this would be?

[jarmo]

sometimes it's like they use the gnr name tro promote their solo work..

an example of this would be?

Every solo album or side project by a former band member! 

Even VR is labeled as "the band featuring three former GN'R members"! Sometimes Matt is mentioned as an original GN'R member. 


You don't want to hear good music because the guy happens to be in a band you like. And the line up of the band, featuring the guy who released the album, hasn't released anything? Ok..... 




/jarmo

[norway]

Sometimes Matt is mentioned as an original GN'R member.?



/jarmo

that sucks

[younggunner]

Jarmo my man..dont you realize that VR dont do it themselves, its the media and the people who introduce them at festivals....

[mikegiuliana]

sometimes it's like they use the gnr name tro promote their solo work..

an example of this would be?

Every solo album or side project by a former band member!?

Even VR is labeled as "the band featuring three former GN'R members"! Sometimes Matt is mentioned as an original GN'R member.?


You don't want to hear good music because the guy happens to be in a band you like. And the line up of the band, featuring the guy who released the album, hasn't released anything? Ok.....?




/jarmo

to me axl rose is gnr
slash is gnr
duff is gnr
etc etc, they can use it till the day they die, it's like page or plant using zepplin..

the names fortus, finc, stinson don't ring the same bell the others have or deseve the same use of the name for me.. Yes I know they are now apart of gnr but until they put  chapter into the group then they are just part of axl's project.. Some longevity has to be shown, anyone can be a member of a band that never plays...

I have interst in new gnr because axl sings, he could have hired 10 different players for 3 different albums and it wouldn't matter to me,,, WHatever one stays and plays will be what I consider to be the band.. To me albums is what counts, whihout music there is nothing..

WHoever is there when cd is done will be the band for me and the one I will follow.. Everyone is subject to change..

[younggunner]

the names fortus, finc, stinson don't ring the same bell the others have or deseve the same use of the name for me

Why would they? And who said they should be on the same level as the old members right now?

Some longevity has to be shown, anyone can be a member of a band that never plays...

Most of the members in the band have been in GNR for 6 yrs now...not too bad for a band thats "always changing"

WHoever is there when cd is done will be the band for me and the one I will follow.. Everyone is subject to change..

And thats why you and many others around here look at things differently than the people who are fans of the band