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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2004, 11:24:54 PM »


yep, insane shredding genious. he's not like other guys that are pure shredders though, there's more to his playing, know wha I mean? Cheesy ok

I know, currently listenin to welcome to buckeheadland beer

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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2004, 11:43:16 PM »

this is full of crap... Not everyone opposed Tobias - Axl and Dizzy didn't, and to my knowledge Duff didn't say he was bad for the band, he only said the way he was brought in was wrong. It turns into a real old Axl vs everyone topic, but it goes all wrong there when people forget that it was Gilby, Matt and Slash writing the Snakepit album that caused a split in the band. Duff, Dizzy and Axl did not want to release that under the name GnR, so we're talking about a 3 vs 3 split. Gilby even stated this and others has indicated it several times. By choosing Slash, Axl would've had to choose It's Five O' Clock Somewhere. By choosing Paul, he could move forward. And yeah, Paul Tobias wrote "Back Off Bitch". It's better than anything on the Snakepit album! Izzy wasn't possible to choose since Izzy didn't want to deal with it (enough). Izzy could've contributed some, but obviously Axl didn't wanna count on someone he knew could leave if he found something better to do. That's some of Izzy's charm, but at the same time it doesn't make it easy. I know Izzy and Duff recorded music in 95/96 for Izzy's "117 degrees" in 95 or 96, and I've also heard Axl and Izzy wrote for GnR. That may be true. And I don't call Axl "William Bailey" since he doesn't like it so then it's not right to call Paul "Paul Huge" when he doesn't like that name either! It's about paying the respect for that guy!"I'm more interested in having the music talk first, then I'll say what happened later."

Wasnt Back Off Bitch written in the early days..I seem to recall seeing it on the set-list of the inside cover of the Hollywood Rose album..I could be wrong but i remember this for some reason

well, yeah... it was written in 1981 or 82 or so... it was written when this incredibly bad and totally incompetent Paul Tobias was 19 years old. I mean, everyone could write a song that could be on an album selling 16+ million copies! And not to mention that, he fuckin' wrote Shadow Of Your Love too! Anyone could at least write three songs a great bands did! Yeah, suck my fuckin' joint! And if I am to take a fast guess at how many great songs Kushner wrote??? uh, how about zero??

Well, for those of you I did not piss off until now check out my page GnRinfo.tk for more info about the songs. And check out info about a complete page 10 times bigger (and a lot more informative BASED ON FACTS AND QUOTES) at the GnRnation.com. I want to have the story there as well as some special surprises. as SOON as possible!

and younggunner, you're probably a lot more right than you may think you are when you read other posts here! I don't really post here often but I post whenever I see thing that pisses me off with people ignoring certain interviews and listening to others and what you say seemed objective enough to me. And that goes for the estranged dude too! For the rest, I can only be as arrogant as Axl can be...
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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2004, 08:32:21 AM »


yep, insane shredding genious. he's not like other guys that are pure shredders though, there's more to his playing, know wha I mean? Cheesy ok

I know, currently listenin to welcome to buckeheadland beer

ops, we're jackin the thread nervous

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whoops, hope they don't notice..! nervous
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« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2004, 12:24:34 PM »


whoops, hope they don't notice..! nervous

prolly not Roll Eyes

have you heard his odb remix? shows he can play whats  mainstream too,

never heard that izzy worked with paul
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« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2004, 02:04:38 PM »


whoops, hope they don't notice..! nervous

prolly not Roll Eyes

have you heard his odb remix? shows he can play whats? mainstream too,

never heard that izzy worked with paul

no I haven't heard it, but I know he can play mainstream! ok

I highly doubt Izzy worked with Paulie, I think Iz was writing songs with Duff only.
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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2004, 02:18:14 PM »


no I haven't heard it,

try http://bucketheadland.com/mp3/odb_mix_3%20(master).mp3  Smiley

maybe they were hangin at the studio around same time?
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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2004, 03:35:48 PM »

a diamond in the dirt as my man fity says...

How the hell do you even know that?   nervous
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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2004, 10:50:16 PM »

Whats up HTGTH
I have been a lurker for about three years now. This topic is interesting. I am a professional guitarist, so I thought I would put in my two cents on the abilities of GNR guitarists.

Slash-  More soul and feeling than all of us put together, however he is not technicaly perfect. He has the best phrasing and tone I have heard, the only people that compare in my opinion are David Guilmore and Mark Knophler.

Buckethead- I can understand why non guitar players may not like him. If you have any musical background however, I do not see how you (at the very least) respect the mans tallent. If you are a guitar fan and dislike buckethead I recomend that you see him do a solo show.  He is lacking in soul and feeling though ( as almost all technically great guitarists are).

Izzy- the perfect blues rythem player to compliment Slash. I really don't have anything negative about his playing other than he probably would not fit in with most other bands.

Fortus- See Izzy. Seems like a good player that would be a better lead man than Fink.

Fink- Sorry but from what I have heard the man is lucky to be playing lead in any band, let alone GNR. His ability seems limited, and his tone is even worse. His rythem is OK.

That is just my opinion. I am sure I will catch a lot of hell since I am a newbie.

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« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2004, 11:25:59 PM »

the only people that compare in my opinion are David Guilmore and Mark Knophler.

Hey, i'm a big fan of david beer

listened to nin? finch has almost a distinctive sound there, the tours didn't seem to reveal him, imo

maybe on chi dem peace
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« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2004, 12:27:48 AM »

listened to nin? finch has almost a distinctive sound there

Yeah, especially on....ah...uh...uhhhh...

Actually, I dont think he played on any NIN records.  Undecided

the tours didn't seem to reveal him, imo
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« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2004, 01:59:44 AM »

listened to nin? finch has almost a distinctive sound there

Yeah, especially on....ah...uh...uhhhh...

Actually, I dont think he played on any NIN records.? Undecided

the tours didn't seem to reveal him, imo
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huh Huh did i miss out on anything?, last i knew was he played guitar in nin yes

pretty good too, a little different style than your average rock-shredder
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« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2004, 05:41:22 AM »



huh Huh did i miss out on anything?, last i knew was he played guitar in nin yes

pretty good too, a little different style than your average rock-shredder

No, he's only part of the live band. You can hear him on NIN's live album "And all that could have been" and on one track on a remix album, I believe.
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« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2004, 06:04:36 AM »

huh? i seen him in get credits 4 dead souls and think i seen him videos, confused...

he is NOT the one playing guitar on the nin albums? Shocked
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« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2004, 06:13:53 AM »


whoops, hope they don't notice..! nervous

prolly not Roll Eyes



i had noticed but its been made more interesting so carry on
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« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2004, 07:53:13 AM »



he is NOT the one playing guitar on the nin albums? Shocked

Reznor does most of the recording by himself, and additional guitars are usually provided by Danny Lohner. No Robin.
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« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2004, 08:01:23 AM »

Robin played with Buckethead (and Vai and Anthrax) on Ghost Of Mars soundtrack. There's some great tunes in this album.   ok
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« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2004, 12:12:25 PM »

he is NOT the one playing guitar on the nin albums? Shocked

Downward Spiral guitars: Danny Lohner, Adrian Belew

The Fragile guitars: Adrian Belew, Danny Lohner

I believe Fincks only NIN credit is And All That Could Have Been, a live album...He might have played on a B-Side EP or something.  Nothings hes done has been original, as far as I know.
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« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2004, 02:10:33 PM »

Nothings hes done has been original, as far as I know.
What? Would you mind to read my post?
Robin played with Buckethead (and Vai and Anthrax) on Ghost Of Mars soundtrack. There's some great tunes in this album.   ok
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« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2004, 02:35:03 PM »

What? Would you mind to read my post?

Would you like to read my post in context?  ok
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« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2004, 02:46:32 PM »

he is NOT the one playing guitar on the nin albums? Shocked

Downward Spiral guitars: Danny Lohner, Adrian Belew

The Fragile guitars: Adrian Belew, Danny Lohner

I believe Fincks only NIN credit is And All That Could Have Been, a live album...He might have played on a B-Side EP or something.  Nothings hes done has been original, as far as I know.


He did co-write a bside.. I just can't remember for the life of me which one it is.

He also played on Further Down the Spiral and the Still CD.
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