Did Izzy write with Axl and Duff in 1995???

[anythinggoes]

It seems that the Ju Ju Hounds have unfortunately disbanded while recording their second album. Izzy has been spotted playing with fellow Gunners Duff McKagan and Matt Sorum and an all-star band at the opening show of The Joint in Las Vegas in Spring '95, and appeared at the encore of the Slash's Snakepit show in Chicago to play the Stones' "Bitch". He also wrote some new material with Axl and Duff for a new Guns N' Roses album, but no confirmation has been made whether he was back in the band or not.

Just found this on the internet can anybody shed any light on this as to whether its true or not.

[Mikkamakka]

It seems that the Ju Ju Hounds have unfortunately disbanded while recording their second album. Izzy has been spotted playing with fellow Gunners Duff McKagan and Matt Sorum and an all-star band at the opening show of The Joint in Las Vegas in Spring '95, and appeared at the encore of the Slash's Snakepit show in Chicago to play the Stones' "Bitch". He also wrote some new material with Axl and Duff for a new Guns N' Roses album, but no confirmation has been made whether he was back in the band or not.

Just found this on the internet can anybody shed any light on this as to whether its true or not.

I read an interview in Metal Hammer in late 1995 in which Slash talked about the state of GN'R. He said that they had 2 candidates for the position of the second guitarist but since they didn't wanna be 'Ozzy N' Roses', they'd choose Izzy over Zakk Wylde and they'd stick for these 'Stones-style' rock. Well, Axl chose Paul Ono.

[anythinggoes]

So id be right in saying this was all before Sympathy For The Devil was recorded?

[Mikkamakka]

So id be right in saying this was all before Sympathy For The Devil was recorded?

No, it was after. The whole band wanted Huge to go and they tried out different guitarists. (That's why Matt later recommended Finck.) It seems that even Axl was a partner in this, because he liked the idea of having two of the greatest guitarists in his band (Slash N' Zakk). But it didn't work, then Izzy came into the picture, then Finck. And when Slash gave an ultimatum to Axl to choose between him and Huge, Axl chose Huge. 

[anythinggoes]

Slash 95

How much work towards the next Guns album did you expect the rest of the band to have done when you finished the Snakepit tour?
"When I left town, Axl and Matt and Duff and I had worked on new material. I hadn't heard Axl sing anything, but he was there while we were fucking around jamming.
"And we tried out different guitar players, did that whole bullshit thing with Zakk (Wylde)... Just to get that story straight, it's nothing against Zakk, it was just not the right... I love jamming with Zakk on his own, as a separate entity, but in Guns N' Roses it doesn't sound right.
"Anyway, they were supposed to keep working while I was gone. That's why Matt didn't come on tour with us, because he was supposed to help keep that foundation for them to jam. Well they only jammed like twice since I was gone, so no one had really been doing anything."
There have been rumours about Izzy writing for the next Guns album, leading to further rumours and speculation that he's going to re-join the band. How much truth is involved there, and how do you get on with Izzy these days?
"Izzy jammed with Snakepit in Chicago, and we did a Stones song, and it was great to see him. But Izzy quit Guns because of the same bullshit that sort of forced me to take off for a while.
"He's been writing; he wrote some stuff with Duff. He wants to write songs, but he doesn't wanna deal with the whole thing. And it took me a while to finally get to the point where I couldn't handle it either, y'know?
"He wants to write material, but he's not really sure what he wants to do. He's so laid back. He doesn't want to deal any pressure. Izzy does what he wants to do.
"As much as has gone on, and as much as I resent Izzy for quitting and all that, and leaving me in weird spots where I had to find a replacement weeks before the next leg of a tour, or if he didn't play on the "Use Your Illusion" records - which is for the most part true - looking back on it, Izzy's Izzy."
What do you mean he didn't play on "...Illusion" albums?!
"I had to double guitars up for him on most of it. He didn't play very much."
Have any songs actually been written for the next GN'R album?
"Yeah! We've got tapes of what Axl considers great songs, which from my point of view is just me playing the guitar! I haven't heard any lyrics or any vocals, so I don't know what a song is until then. You know what I mean?"

i think it would have been cool to have Zakk in the band but it interesting to think that Izzy may have been considering going back to GNR

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And when Slash gave an ultimatum to Axl to choose between him and Huge, Axl chose Huge. 

Slash left Guns because Slash chose to, not Axl.

[Genesis]

And when Slash gave an ultimatum to Axl to choose between him and Huge, Axl chose Huge.?

Slash left Guns because Slash chose to, not Axl.

Sure, don't see why he had to put up with Axl's bullshit

[Mikkamakka]

And when Slash gave an ultimatum to Axl to choose between him and Huge, Axl chose Huge.?

Slash left Guns because Slash chose to, not Axl.

Slash gave an ultimatum: him or Huge. Axl chose Huge. Slash left.

[ppbebe]

Sure, don't see why he had to put up with Axl's bullshit

So, explain me how you see yourself why you have to put up with "Axl?s" bullshit you mentioned, I mean, to come here?
I don?t see why you have to.

[Mr. Nik™]

Slash gave an ultimatum: him or Huge. Axl chose Huge. Slash left.

I don't think so

[Voodoochild]

Slash gave an ultimatum: him or Huge. Axl chose Huge. Slash left.

I don't think so

Me neither. Maybe Axl chose "both". And Slash: "fuck you". I don't buy this "Axl fired everybody to stick with Huge" thing. 

[Walapino]

Slash was forced to leave because the options that where chosen wherent of his liking, I cant believe people still dont understand this. Yes he left on his own choice but he had no option regarding his point of view. AGH I HATE PETS!

[Mikkamakka]

Again, maybe you'll understand it now. Axl wanted his own Paul to be in the band. The others didn't want Paul, Slash hated him from the first time. Slash said he didn't want to work with Huge/Tobias, but Axl wanted Paul's contribution. Then Slash told Axl that he wouldn't play with Paul, so Axl had to choose: if he sticks with Paul then Slash will quit. Axl chose Paul. Slash quit. He wasn't forced to quit, but Axl did everything he could have done to rid of Slash. That's it. You can't be serious thinking that not the lead guitarists words count the most when it's about who'll be the second guitarist. I really understand slash's decision although it must have been really fuckin' hard for him.

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YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!

[Mikkamakka]

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!

I'm afraid you have no idea. Let's read some GN'R articles and interviews. 

[younggunner]

Well, Axl chose Paul Ono.

Last time I checked, in fact everytime I checked Paul was never in the band....

And when Slash gave an ultimatum to Axl to choose between him and Huge, Axl chose Huge.

Really?

Paul was one of the best people we knew who was both available and capable of complimenting Slash?s style.But Paul was only interested in complimenting Slash, laying down a foundation of a riff or something. That would accent or encourage slash's lead playing. Now whether or not Paul was going to be officially on the album or on the tour that really wasn?t an actual consideration at the time.

But it didn't work, then Izzy came into the picture, then Finck

Do you know who brought the birdman into the picture?

[Mikkamakka]

Well, Axl chose Paul Ono.

Last time I checked, in fact everytime I checked Paul was never in the band....

And when Slash gave an ultimatum to Axl to choose between him and Huge, Axl chose Huge.

Really?

Paul was one of the best people we knew who was both available and capable of complimenting Slash?s style.But Paul was only interested in complimenting Slash, laying down a foundation of a riff or something. That would accent or encourage slash's lead playing. Now whether or not Paul was going to be officially on the album or on the tour that really wasn?t an actual consideration at the time.

But it didn't work, then Izzy came into the picture, then Finck

Do you know who brought the birdman into the picture?

Surely Paul was never in the band. Surely. He was only always around as an evil spirit. And his guitar playing sucks, everyone who has ever played guitar can tell it.

The whole band wanted Huge to go and they tried out different guitarists. (That's why Matt later recommended Finck.)

[younggunner]

He was only always around as an evil spirit.

But...it is writen if the Evil Spirit Arms the Tiger with claws Brahman provided wings for the Dove Thus spake the Super Guru" * "Did you hear that"

And his guitar playing sucks, everyone who has ever played guitar can tell it.

do you have a song or album I can base that critisim on?

The whole band wanted Huge to go and they tried out different guitarists. (That's why Matt later recommended Finck.)

who said that?

[Mikkamakka]

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And his guitar playing sucks, everyone who has ever played guitar can tell it.

do you have a song or album I can base that critisim on?

His guitar playing. You know, there are bootlegs. He plays with as much mistakes as a beginner. He was horrible. On the other hand Slash and Matt didn't have a high opinion on his skills. They were right, Paul just not talented. Oh, I almost forgot to add his contribution to Sympathy. Really lame guitar playing.

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The whole band wanted Huge to go and they tried out different guitarists. (That's why Matt later recommended Finck.)

who said that?

You don't remember, don't you? Then do a search 

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YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!

I'm afraid you have no idea. Let's read some GN'R articles and interviews. 

Perhaps it is you who should read interviews by Slash and Axl on this issue, and articles released at the time Slash quit the band.