The death of Dimebag Darrell

[GNR_Green]

I've got a lot of sympathy for Phil.

People still whinig about him need to let it go, Pantera definately won't come back now and that's thanks to the tosser who went on stage with a gun last year.

RIP Dimebag

[jimmythegent]

interesting read - RIP Dimebag

[Rob]

In the past year I've developed a lot of respect for Phil.  He's really turned things around.  He seems like a very genuine, sincere dude who's going throuhg a very rough time.  I hope things go well for him and he's able to be the great frontman he once was.

[Neemo]

My buddy is obsessed wioth this whole Dimebag murder situation, he this Phil hired that dude to kill Dime, I think he's full of shit. Looks like you guys agree with me too (or do you?) I hope Phil gets back to where he needs to be cuz I'd love to see him kick ass on the stage again.

[Izzy]

Glad to see Phil doing another interview. I love that SOB!

That interview sheds a lot of light on his drug intake...



..i believe him.

Nothings ever what it seems, but i give him the benefit of the doubt

I will say this though: if he loved Pantera so much why didn't he move heaven and earth to keep them going?

[Rob]

I think he felt betrayed by the other guys when they started to turn on him.

[Neemo]

I think alot of shit was going on cuz when i saw them in Hamilton in June of 2001, Phil said that it would be the last Pantera tour for a while, he said it right on stage between songs. then not long after the tour ended they broke up

[Rob]

That's awesome that you did get to see them though.  That's one band I'd loved to see, but will never get the chance.

[Neemo]

That's awesome that you did get to see them though.? That's one band I'd loved to see, but will never get the chance.

I have a good story from that show, (Hamilton, 2001). A freind of mine that went with me was in the pit. and another buddy and me saw this shoe being thrown around. and we were laughing, thinking, aw poor bastard someone lost their shoe. right. well at the end of the song freind # 1 comes up to us and is like "fuck I lost my shoe..." so we start howling right. then he's scared to go back in there right cuz he doesn't want his foot stomped on, then about 2 songs later we see the shoe again flying up in the air. And we are like there's your shoe dude!!! and we start laughing again. He's like fuck!! and runs back in there. then about 2 mins later he comes running back to us, waving his fucking shoe. "I got it guys" ahh good times.

It was crazy, The very beginning of the live album says it pretty fucking good. It was the same both times I saw them. you would start to see dimebag walking around back stage with his guitar then the crowd starts going "PAN-TER-A, PAN-TER-A, PAN-TER-A" then the light blaze and its fucking loud and its fucking chaos, a shitload of people not in the pit rushed the barricades and at least 1/2 jump over them. guys getting thrown 10 feet in the air from the pit. and the whole floor was a battle, you know most shows there is a pocket with no activity, That was not the case with pantera, every second in there was a battle. I was never scared of being hurt in any pit after being in that utter chaos (Blood, Booze Drugs and fights), I've felt almost indestructable at any other show I've been to since the show in Detroit '99. (I was pushed into a circle pit of skinheads there it was fucking scary, but i ran before they could grab me )

PanterA ruled so fucking much. I truely feel for those who didn't see them

[the dirt]

I never saw them either, it's too bad

[R4tfink]

Me neither! 

[Izzy]

Never had the opportunity to catch them either.....

Maybe the surviving members could reform..or would that be a bad idea?

[Neemo]

Never had the opportunity to catch them either.....

Maybe the surviving members could reform..or would that be a bad idea?

Well Phil and Rex were both in Down, I'm not sure if they were split in 2 or not, thats what it looked like when Damageplan was together. And I remeber seeing a bit of an interview with Dime in Guitar world right after Damageplan was released and he was talking about the breakup of PanterA. I'm pretty sure it was portrayed that way in that interview. I don't have that one though sorry

EDIT: I think this is the interview i was talking about

So, things have been rather quiet on the Philip Anselmo front for a while, when I was down at the Ozzfest in LA this past summer, my scheduled interview had to be postponed due to Philip heading out to the city to meet up with none other than Rex Brown, have you guys had any contact with Phil like that over the recent months or??

Haven?t heard from him 3 years, and you know what. I don?t care to hear from him.

Do you guys still keep in touch with Rex?

I heard from him 1 time. The same thing goes for that guy too though.

Now, as an obvious fan, and lover of everything Pantera has done, and you lads as individuals have done, for the fans, say in the next few years, could you ever forseeably see a Pantera reunion? Not now, but if the time, and money was right, say 5 years down the road, what do you say to that?

No way, not for the money, not for the time, not for nothing man. The fucking people gotta get over it. I?m not Nostradamus, I can?t even tell ya wat will happen tomorrow, and all that shit is definitely hypothetical. I?m not broke or anything, I?m not doing it for time or money - none of that fuckin? bullshit. Shit, I mean the way things went down were just so fuckin? sour.

I?ve read so much bullshit about someone saying this, and someone saying that, and I find it incredibly hard to believe that what I read is absolute truth ? In 100% truth, reality, and honesty if you could send out a message to Phil and the fans that says what you want it to say, with the guarantee it will get press word for word and verbatim, what would it be?

Yea man. I totally agree with ya on that bullshit thing, it?s so true, but for a message?.It would be, Vinnie Paul and Dime Darrel never ever, EVER turned our backs on the Pantera fans, we planned on Pantera lasting a lifetime and we were there 150% of the time. No side projects, nothing BUT Pantera, every fuckin? day and night, and the other 2 dudes took it for granted and walked away, and left us in the cold, left us hangin?, and left the fans hangin?. I aint biting off at the other dudes, but just have the common courtesy to call us and my brother and tell us that you are trying to do bigger things than Pantera or whatever, that you want to leave the band. The feelings were just no common courtesy, and I don?t understand the whole fuckin? thing. Then I hear the bad mouthin? that Phil is doing, I didn?t do anything to the guy man, and I hear he?s falling asleep in interviews. You know man, its just something you can?t control I?ll tell ya, that?s what I learnt ?bout hard dope ? they?re gone, they are never comin? back that shit will ruin you. Some people stay the same, but man, most are just gone.

That?s the brutal reality of it. It?s like a fuckin? wife going back on ya, but as far as mine and Vinnie?s credibility, it hasn?t been scarred a bit. If the fans wanna hear a Pantera song, we make them motherfuckers whole, we want them to know that we never left.

[Neemo]

Another exerpt from the new Revolver Magazine coming out next week.

In the February 2006 issue of Revolver magazine (web site), several of PANTERA's former business associates recount the band's amazing rise to the status of the biggest extreme metal act in the world and the circumstances that led to their eventual break-up.

Though it would be unfair to blame PANTERA's demise directly on vocalist Philip Anselmo's side band DOWN, it's clear that the project ? as well as Anselmo's many other projects, like SUPERJOINT RITUAL ? became another snowball in the avalanche of bad feeling that eventually overwhelmed the band. Certainly, the lack of direct communication between Anselmo and the Abbott brothers (Darrell and Vince) also had something to do with it, as did the "he said/they said" salvos that were fired back and forth between the two camps ? with bassist Rex Brown caught in the middle ? via interviews in print magazines and online publications.

"Really, it was just a complete lack of communication [within PANTERA], and the wrong things being said at the wrong time," offers Kim Zide-Davis, who joined the band's management team a few months after the group's "Far Beyond Driven" CD came out. "Philip doesn't have a real understanding that he needs to be careful of who he says what to, and how people can misconstrue what he's saying. It got to the point where I'd come into the office and Phil was out on tour with DOWN or SUPERJOINT RITUAL and had just said something else. Honestly, it was gut-wrenching.

"I spent the better part of the last three years [with PANTERA] working with them on and off, trying to keep them from disintegrating. The brothers were ready to go, and so was Rex. But Philip was beyond anybody's control."

"I blame the media for making a circus out of the fact that there were a few things I wanted to get out of my system, and we were going to take a break," says Anselmo today. "The media blew this 'we hate each other' thing up to the sky."

But while the "who broke up PANTERA" argument can (and probably will) rage well into the next millennium, the premature death of Dimebag Darrell ultimately renders it moot. Though drummer Vinnie Paul has vehemently stated that he and his brother would have never participated in a PANTERA reunion, Brown would like to think otherwise. "Maybe somewhere down the road we would've smoothed stuff out ? the four of us getting together in a room and beating the shit out of each other or whatever," he says. "We can?t do that now. All that we can do now is move on and do the best we can and try to preserve the legacy that we built, and at least keep Dime's musical legacy alive."

The February 2006 issue of Revolver magazine ? containing a lengthy interview with Anselmo and comments from many of the group's longtime associates ? will hit newsstands on December 6.

[F*ck Fear]

Today last year I was sitting outside of The Phoenix Concert Theater in Toronto and it is only 1:40pm....I was up that morning at 8:00am getting ready to leave the city in which I live to go wait all day to see Damageplan....Around 2:00pm a local cab pulled up in front of the venue and out came Dime Vinnie and Mayhem,me and my friends approached and were greated...Taking pictures,getting autographs,talking about that nights gig,it was great...I thought to myself I had never met any nicer people...Went on to destroy the city like always...What a great day.I'm not really good at getting to the point sometimes,but this is a day I will never forget.
Rest In Peace to all from that tragic night,you'll be missed.


As for the Phil interview,I rather not comment.

[F*ck Fear]

I think alot of shit was going on cuz when i saw them in Hamilton in June of 2001, Phil said that it would be the last Pantera tour for a while, he said it right on stage between songs. then not long after the tour ended they broke up

I was at that show as Hamilton is where I live...I wasn't on the floor,but for my first show it was killer none the less....I was glad I got to see them live after they broke up.
I also saw Damageplan both times they came to Toronto in 2004.

[Izzy]

Its a real shame they can't get back together - at leats with GNR its still technically posisble if not concievably possible

Damageplan and Down/SJR are pretty godawful offerings when compared to Pantera - they were 4 guys that when combined where far better than the sum of their parts. I thought Down/SJR are really, really awfull and Damageplan's album has never bene in my cd player again (mainly due to the awful vocalist)

[F*ck Fear]

Down and Damageplan are awsome IMO....Superjoint is just ok,but I rather have the other two...Pat Lachman is a great vocalist....I was really looking forward to the follow up Damageplan record.

[Neemo]

Down and Damageplan are awsome IMO....Superjoint is just ok,but I rather have the other two...Pat Lachman is a great vocalist....I was really looking forward to the follow up Damageplan record.

I got both Down albums and i think they are fucking great

I still have to get around to buying Damageplan (I didn't want to seem like ibought it just cuz Dime was killed) I've heard a couple tunes and they sound alright.

Did you see the Vinnie Paul interview I posted in the Pantera thread? He talks about the damageplan 2 recordings and his thoughts on what he's going to do with them. Check it out its a good read.

[Izzy]

Down and Damageplan are awsome IMO....Superjoint is just ok,but I rather have the other two...Pat Lachman is a great vocalist....I was really looking forward to the follow up Damageplan record.

What is it u like about Down?

I though the first album has the most basic guitar work i have ever heard - makes Green Day guitar work look complex.