Once and for all, 3 albums or 1 album??? What do you think?

[Mutherfunker]

There's two reasons I think there must be some sort of plan for more albums which means material already recorded to a point.

Firstly, I don't care how much of a perfectionist Axl is, you don't take this long working on just 12 songs or so. There must be a lot more material which won't be on the first album.

Second, the record company must have put all that money in for a reason. Would it be worth it for one album? Probably not. 2 or 3, makes sense.

@#$%Funker

[norway]

DOes anyone think a tour is booked already?? I mean you have to do these things months in advance.

It would be very hard to prevent the news to leak, but you never know...

[mikegiuliana]

DOes anyone think a tour is booked already?? I mean you have to do these things months in advance.

It would be very hard to prevent the news to leak, but you never know...

You would think the same for at least one song from cd, I'm not sure I believe the irs shit..

If gnr is planning a big tour that's going to be tons of citys and a year or more they would have to be booking arenas already.. You can't just throw an album out and hope you can get madison square garden../

I just hope teh clearchannel shit is fixed, they have a monopoloy on the business.. I bet gnr is planning a european tour first.. They just do better outside the states (well until they gain popularity again..

[norway]

if they can book arenas without revealin the performers name, we won't know at all

but so many city's and countries... it just got to leak if they know it guns

[mikegiuliana]

I can't believe so many peopl have been involved with the album/s and not one word leaked..

Not hearing anything period worries me, maybe there's nothing to leak..

[ppbebe]

Here?s a maxim of a wise man. 

Why not just wait n see what happens..?

[younggunner]

I can't believe so many peopl have been involved with the album/s and not one word leaked..

They are honoring their word of keeping things hush hush

[Scabbie]

I can't believe so many peopl have been involved with the album/s and not one word leaked..

They are honoring their word of keeping things hush hush

Plus not to mention afraid of getting fired and their asses sued.

[axl_rose_700]

Dead horse

There is no other albums - its unlikely there is even one.

It's funny neither Dizzy or Tommy have heard of these ''other albums''

I don't think it's that theres like a CD,CD2 and CD3 but more like just about 100 songs that could be put into 3 albums!

[D]

songs usually leak when they get to the record plants and some worker there will swipe a copy and thats how it begins.

in the studios the masters and computer hardrives are locked in safes and axl is the producer so nothing is unsupervised.

it is still amazing the loyalty people have to axl, even the members who have quit for not sayin anything at all.

Im thinkin there would be some massive lawsuits and some kind of gag agreements have had to be signed.

i wonder if axl will send armed guards to supervise the record plants?

[younggunner]

it is still amazing the loyalty people have to axl, even the members who have quit for not sayin anything at all.

Im thinkin there would be some massive lawsuits and some kind of gag agreements have had to be signed.

I think the whole gag order things plays a role but i think it has more to do with how Axl has really changed since the world last seen him....

What I mean is like how he has developed friendships with people and what these people say about him...how he is loyal, genuine, etc....So with that being said the people he has involved himself with have a respect for him and have not really badmouth him or shed any major light on the album or band because they honor that relationship{on whatever level it may be} by not saying anything...

i wonder if axl will send armed guards to supervise the record plants?

GNR should just lock down a plant and have the cd made their. Tell the plant if it leaks your home iwll be my new home....I dont know why bands dont just do it in 1 or 2 select places so they can trace the leak....some1 enlighten me about the process...

[Throatrake]

Just to clarify the obvious;

1. Axl did say there were 3 albums.

2. There are 3 clips of studio quality songs.

3. It takes a long time to record 3 albums.

4. Things change.

5. It's hard to proceed with the origional plan when things don't go they way they were projected.

6. We just have to wait (a long time) to get what we are here for.

[mikegiuliana]

.I dont know why bands dont just do it in 1 or 2 select places so they can trace the leak....

Not speaking for eevryone, but I'm sure most groups want something to leak, it causes a buzz, people get to hear the song.. I think it only helps.

It would be great if a gnr tune leaked, just for the idea it's a reality... I know there is a lot of material, album/s or whatever but sometimes I feel so many things have happened and there's just no word on anything that a leaked song would just give me the satisfaction of knowing it's a reality..

[greekmule]

I love it when people try to justify the delay of the album by saying that the music began in 1999, or by saying that Axl is workin on 3 albums etc.

I view Axl as an artist and i don't believe that Axl (or any other artist) decides when "the music begins"-its just a matter of inspiration. When inspiration "hits" u then art is made.

So if you take into account that  Axl has not released a new song(apart from OMG) since 1991 i find it absolutely normal that he has recorded several parts of numerous songs. I bet any musician in the world can write and record 100 unfinished songs in 14 years!!!

The real question is how many finished songs has Axl recorded  and i think there are two possible answers:
a)Axl has some kind of "writer's block" and can't finish songs he has partially recorded
b)Axl has not faith in most of the songs he has recorded either due to his perfectionism or due to the fact that the songs are not that good to begin with

just my 0.02

[mikegiuliana]

The real question is how many finished songs has Axl recorded  and i think there are two possible answers:
a)Axl has some kind of "writer's block" and can't finish songs he has partially recorded
b)Axl has not faith in most of the songs he has recorded either due to his perfectionism or due to the fact that the songs are not that good to begin with

I can't evenbegin to say how many time both points you made have crosssed my mind..

Also I really believe when a group comes together with the intentions of making three albums or a multi album deal before releasing one they will just have the material come to them and be able to bang it out in a fairly reasonable amount of time.. When you get together and write songs you have a creative group of guys the ideas, lyrics riff, etc will just flow.. Maybe it's just so hard to pick the songs, maybe it's trying to make the songs so pefrect, maybe the idea of use of an orchestra made things take longer..

ALl I know is a few songs in 5-6 years isn't much..

I mean do they write a song then put music ot it and listen to it over n over saying thats prety good but it needs a little more of this or that, is he doing music or making a sauce? Need a pinch more of salt, needs more red pepper , or eventually you used to many onions lets make another sauce.,. Everything is crazy, I just can't wait to see soemthing, and to anyone who won't be let down if nothing happens.. Well..

[greekmule]

I mean do they write a song then put music ot it and listen to it over n over saying thats prety good but it needs a little more of this or that, is he doing music or making a sauce? Need a pinch more of salt, needs more red pepper , or eventually you used to many onions lets make another sauce.,. Everything is crazy, I just can't wait to see soemthing, and to anyone who won't be let down if nothing happens.. Well..

I don't know man.I mean sometimes i think that this whole thing has grown out of proportion.The whole concept of CD,the x years in the making, the fact that Axl has not released anything new in 14 years and the fans anticipation of CD-i am afraid that all this shit has killed Axl's inspiration. I wish Axl is in the studio right now fixing little details in order to make (an almost perfect)CD absolutely perfect.

But I'm afraid that's not the case.I am afraid that Axl has lost his faith in the songs he has recorded so far and he has entered a vicious circle of tweaking songs that are not that good to begin with and because he doesnt like the result he keeps tweaking them.

I wish he had released a record just after the OMG release.Even if the record was a failure it would have loosened the pressure on Axl and he would be able to work with much more freedom as he wouldnt have anything to lose...

Now he has everything to lose and i believe that this pressure chokes his creativity

just my 0.02

[mikegiuliana]

I wish he had released a record just after the OMG release.Even if the record was a failure it would have loosened the pressure on Axl and he would be able to work with much more freedom as he wouldnt have anything to lose...

I thought the way to go would have been to release something during the omg era, he talked very highly of cd in 99, he described the types of songs.. It seemed like a definite go..

Sure he wants to make the best music, but it wouldn't have hurt him any if he just put wsomething out, he know gets bashed n hears more shit then life, at leas the other way he would have presented a nnew band ,some material and things of that nature..

Also omg wasn't much of a hit so maybe that discourage him and the negative comments people made towards it.. In nyc people were like wtf when they heard the song, it wasn't guns sounding..

I've said this in other threads, maybe he want sus to believe he has the best album ever, he may never release it because he knows it could neevr live up tot he imaginary hype it's achieved without a person hearing it.. Maybe it's better we sit around and believe the best album that never existed is just a hairs breadth away..