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There will be no musical revolution, but I hope it will be huge. Something as huge as ""The Eminem Show" in the 2000's. between 15 and 20 million copies. Rock music really needs something huge now.
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OK, I'm a huge, huge gunner, and I want to see the new album be a smash and all...but to compare it to "Sgt. Pepper" or say it will revolutionize music? How 'bout we at least get a release date first.
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However I can see a revolutionary change happening at least to the GNR fans.
Maybe it is very slowly under way now already.
like the above mentioned movements it changes your sense of values unexpectedly.
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It will not be bigger than AFD. But it could spark a new rock movement, but thats if its even a rock album.
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Quote from: ppbebe on December 09, 2005, 07:30:20 PM
Bollocks. The sales of Nevermind bollocks wasn't that huge.
It led to a revolutionary change of scene.
but this or that caused by nirvana's nevermind shouldn't be called "musical" revolution as they were not really musically new.
Each movement wasn't done by a band singlehandedly.
Hate to break it to you but the Sex Pistols' music wasn't new either - go check out The Stooges
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Quote from: Axl Rose Child on December 09, 2005, 08:51:05 PM
Quote from: ppbebe on December 09, 2005, 07:30:20 PM
Bollocks. The sales of Nevermind bollocks wasn't that huge.
It led to a revolutionary change of scene.
but this or that caused by nirvana's nevermind shouldn't be called "musical" revolution as they were not really musically new.
Each movement wasn't done by a band singlehandedly.
Hate to break it to you but the Sex Pistols' music wasn't new either - go check out The Stooges
I meant both this and that, ie Sex Pistols n nirvana by "THEY".
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After the European tour, the US tour soon to follow and the leaks, I thought it time to ask this question again (hard to believe it's been almost 2 years since my first post). So, what do you guys think now?
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I think to even consider the possibility that CD will overshadow AFD is one of the funniest things ever discussed on here.
Mumbling talentless rappers and emo scum are all the rage now not 80s rockers with hip hop tinged piano ballads. There'll be no musical revolution whatsover.
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No revolution not bigger than Appetite, just a amanzing album good enought to be the best piace of music in years, one of the best albums out there.?
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Bigger than appetite it will be.
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I could really care less, as long as I like it.
If you're looking for another response, I'd say, no. It may sell well, but it will not be critically well-received, no matter how good it is. The press is very cynical about Axl. I strongly doubt that it will sell 13 million copies. Even if it's insanely popular, it's very difficult to sell that many copies of anything these days.
A musical revolution is not possible in the industry these days - not from a major label, anyway.
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I didn't read other than the topic, but no.
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Quote from: The Gunslinger on August 17, 2006, 03:15:22 PM
After the European tour, the US tour soon to follow and the leaks, I thought it time to ask this question again (hard to believe it's been almost 2 years since my first post).?
So, what do you guys think now?
Now, after the leaks and having heard the new songs Live, I still think it will be big, but not as big as AFD or The Use Your Illusion albums. None of the new songs are as great as Jungle, or November rain, or Paradise, or You could be mine etc... the best of the old band is still the best material of GN'R of all time.
I think Chinese Democracy could sell 10 million copies worldwide. No more.
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I am not going to put the wagon before the horse.
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It'll be a revolutution to us on the GnR fan boards. We'll finally be able to argue about the music. Does it compare to the old band? Is it better then Appetite? Was building the chicken coop worth it for these solos?
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Revolution? To me, Guns N' Roses never started anything beyond what they did between the five of them. No one could touch GN'R back in the day. No one could sound like them. Axl's voice was one of a kind. It was an unattainable sound. They existed as an original, without having to suffer the risk of being emulated. And I think that's a good thing. GN'R will never be associated with any type of commercially created movement or trends. Musical revolutions, so to speak, have never proved consistent or real. They are usually a few good rock bands who never wanted or intended to be part of a so called revolution, but were lumped into a category with a bunch of copycat bands who are trying to sound like them (Grunge, being a prime example). The media creates trends, not musicians.
And I hope that Chinese Democracy will be as unattainable and as impossible to duplicate as Appetite.
We need more bands who stand on their own, instead of belonging to a category with a vast number of bands all looking and sounding the same. A true revolution, per definition, would be to break up the trends and fashions we now experience in the media and are told is rock n' roll, and inspire individualism. I think that's why GN'R is my all time favorite band, because it's one of the few rock n' roll bands that cannot be imitated.
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as much as we would all love cd to be as good as appetite the evidence is not there so far - yes i love better and c.i.t.r but cmon people they simply dont match up to sweet child ,welcome, paradise city, its so easy etc. Appetite for destruction came from a band in harmony with the hunger and desire of people with nothing to lose, not yet touched by success and at their creative peak - the fact they were so good back then make us think and hope we'll get more of the same and the delay of the release heightens that feeling more, almost like a unattainable holy grail .
i only hope gunslinger doesnt need to bring this thread up again in another two years as we'll know the answer by then
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Quote from: micfac on August 17, 2006, 08:29:09 PM
as much as we would? all love cd to be as good as appetite the evidence is not there so far - yes i love better and c.i.t.r but cmon people they simply dont match up to sweet child ,welcome, paradise city, its so easy etc.
no shit, the new songs are demos (not finished tracks).
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'Chinese Democracy will be bigger than Appetite and lead to a music revolution'
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Quote from: Guns N' Neuroses on August 17, 2006, 07:15:11 PM
Revolution? To me, Guns N' Roses never started anything beyond what they did between the five of them. No one could touch GN'R back in the day. No one could sound like them. Axl's voice was one of a kind. It was an unattainable sound. They existed as an original, without having to suffer the risk of being emulated. And I think that's a good thing. GN'R will never be associated with any type of commercially created movement or trends. Musical revolutions, so to speak, have never proved consistent or real. They are usually a few good rock bands who never wanted or intended to be part of a so called revolution, but were lumped into a category with a bunch of copycat bands who are trying to sound like them (Grunge, being a prime example). The media creates trends, not musicians.
And I hope that Chinese Democracy will be as unattainable and as impossible to duplicate as Appetite.
We need more bands who stand on their own, instead of belonging to a category with a vast number of bands all looking and sounding the same. A true revolution, per definition, would be to break up the trends and fashions we now experience in the media and are told is rock n' roll, and inspire individualism. I think that's why GN'R is my all time favorite band, because it's one of the few rock n' roll bands that cannot be imitated.
couldn't have said it better!
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