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« Reply #140 on: December 01, 2004, 09:06:56 AM »

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I think it's more of a running joke than tons of anticipation..
Don't be too negative. I think It's both. and you know, all the people who have criticized Axl and? who have made fun of this album will be the first one to buy it and to listen to it. There exists a strong anticipation for this album. I'm curious to see how much copies it will see the first week....

Of course it's both, but who are all these people waiting for the album>?? I mean most people I know my age don't even know anything about new gnr or a long awaited album..

Just like I like other groups that were popular when gnr was big I'm not out following what they are doing now or expecting anything new.. I think it's more extreme fans who care and countdowns stations like vh1 who get a kick out of this.

One of the biggest attractions are how axl n gnr went out like a fart in the wind, people are interested in axl's mystery they want to see what he does next.. People don't understand coming back for the vmas introducing a new band then shit canning a tour three weeks into it then 2 years later no one knows nothing./.

There's alot of very good bands that have disappeared, and it's mostly their bigger fans that follow their careers waiting for their big comeback.

I will enjkoy whatreevr, but regardless axl has become like a marlon brando, or barbra streisand who makes arare apperance and become a recluse and is good material for snl type shows and late night shows.. Look at wacko jacko, he's erratic, crazy and people always wonder what he's doing, then finally he comes back adn doesn't sell well album wise..

Peopel follow kiss all over and go to their shows but their albums don't sell.. We'll just have to wait n see..

It's like anna nicole smith, or mike tyson people all flock to them because they are wacky and want to see what crazyness occurs next..
I love his music,i'm just saying how the outside world might see it..
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« Reply #141 on: December 01, 2004, 10:44:51 AM »

think about 1 thing: The Greatest Hits album sales figures.
Don't worry for record sales, they will sell a lot when the album comes out.
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« Reply #142 on: December 01, 2004, 01:44:49 PM »

well initially Chinese Democracy will sell but it will need to be revolutionary to not be a dissapointment. axl better have some aces up his sleeve on this one.
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« Reply #143 on: December 02, 2004, 12:18:51 AM »

It's somehow history making already,  Undecided they are snoozin for the guiness hihi

a revolution is a thing against the established or???

music revolution, hmm...
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« Reply #144 on: December 24, 2004, 10:34:17 PM »

Now that Brain has been quoted as saying that Chinese Democracy will be GN'R's Led-Zeppelin's 2, do most of you still doubt that CD will be bigger than AFD?? While AFD is my personal favorite album bext to UYI2, I've never heard AFD compared to one of rock's greatest albums, like Zeppelin 2.? ok drool

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« Reply #145 on: December 25, 2004, 01:19:57 AM »

could this be a rock/opera album ?
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« Reply #146 on: December 25, 2004, 02:29:01 AM »

 I think the album, lets face it, is going to revive or revolutionize "gnr".... but in know way 

will it bring on a revolution in music. Maybe possibly change the record company in finding


real fucking talent, yet the record industry is too money hungry for that.  It wont be a

album like nevermind.  I mean Nirvana revolutionized rock music whether you want to say

it was for the good or bad.  I respected the fact there was a new rock era forming with

grunge.  Yet they made the overproduced, decadent and talented rock stars look like

douche bags yet in essence they were underproduced, decadent and somewhat talented

douche bags, who killed rock and roll and heavy metal.  It also made anything connected

to that peroid of rock music look stupid,

and it loved to discredit alot of talent, like gnr.  Let face it grunge had a bit following, but

with Kobain killing himself it made grunge short lived.  What would have happened if the

grunge scene never existed and rock was free to roam and rock was rock with no labels,

no movement in one fray of rock music, would we see this bullshit music, we will never

no.  It was just a load of one track minds who said: will follow this leader and following

just one type of rock will allow it  to fade out and bore you senseless.  Its simple they

were good, but lets face it they were no gnr.  So kirt Kobain kind of led the way for the

other angst ridden folks to come aboard and grunge was this hit knew thing.  But when

the fad faded out and nirvana died everything else died with it.  Like we are seeing now,

the pop punk little talentless fuckers {New found Glory..etc} they all jumped on the band

wagon and it is this hit new thing.  We all know it was not everyday that a great band

like GnR came along.  Infact, I believe as I think most of you believe GnR was one of the l


last real rock band.  Saying that, I think when Chinese Demorcracy does come out it will

be incredible, but it wont revolutionize or change other forms of rock or anything.  It will

stand alone, and hopefully shine a light back to what music is supposed to sound like. But

lets face it people dont have the money to make  a 13 million dollar album, or to even

wait 10 years to perfect it so the chance for another band to duplicate it is a fantasy. 

Only Axl Rose, apparently its the record company that is axl's little bitch and not vice

versa.  He is a legend, a mystery, a recluse and he still has got something up his sleeve. 

Lets hope it comes out dare I say before we all die, morbildly speaking.



merry christmas gunners and a  happy new year peace beer
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« Reply #147 on: December 08, 2005, 12:35:11 PM »

I decided to re-emerge this topic. What's your feeling right now about the sales?
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« Reply #148 on: December 08, 2005, 01:31:40 PM »

First & foremost i don't know what all this shit about cd outselling appetite or how much bigger it's gonna be is all about.

Records are there to be broken .When appetite was released it was the biggest selling debut album of all time.(that has since changed).

When cd is released it will break new records i'm sure but you have to remember that the world has been waiting a long  long  time for cd & the curiosity alone will make it huge.

I for one will not compare cd to anything released before wether it be appetite or a greatest hits from ingelbert humperdink.

Roll on the elusive OFFICIAL statement & Roll on Slane castle next AUGUST.

Ps Remember were you heard it First.   
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« Reply #149 on: December 08, 2005, 01:35:15 PM »

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While AFD is my personal favorite album bext to UYI2, I've never heard AFD compared to one of rock's greatest albums, like Zeppelin 2.

That's because for hard-rock genre albums, AFD destruction has become the standard by which albums are compared against. Should tell you something about the magnitude of the album.
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« Reply #150 on: December 08, 2005, 05:15:19 PM »

WOW, my first post on HTGTH has been revived.
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« Reply #151 on: December 08, 2005, 06:07:23 PM »

chinese democracy wont lead to a musical revolution and if you think it will you are nuts and they will be lucky to go platinum in a relatively short period of time. its not the most anticipated record ever, only by the fans. most people on the planet dont even know it exists so get it through your delusional little minds.
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« Reply #152 on: December 08, 2005, 07:36:52 PM »

chinese democracy wont lead to a musical revolution and if you think it will you are nuts and they will be lucky to go platinum in a relatively short period of time. its not the most anticipated record ever, only by the fans. most people on the planet dont even know it exists so get it through your delusional little minds.

i bouth agree and disagree with you here FLASH. I think alot of people are aware on the GNR situation. Alot more people then we know! Everytime im on the city and get to talk to someone about music, and mention GNR. The standard comment is. "Is Axl gonna release the new album soon?" People do know about it even if they are not as dedicated as we are.

I think that if the Original lineup got together today, they would sell alot of record, but records that would not top the old stuff. Just like Rolling Stones or Aerosmith when they release albums now days...

But the new band are in a different situation. There are new people, new style, new combinations, witch i think have more potential to be a "NEW BIG BAND" And who knows.. maybe make a music revolution, who knows?

Also, remember, that people dont stop buying music even if they pass 30 years old. And there is a lot of 30 years old.. even 40 and 50 years old boys and girls who will grab this album, because they remember GNR! And if GNR also can make an apell to the younger fans, then the fanbase will be very big..
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« Reply #153 on: December 08, 2005, 08:08:54 PM »

If Axl does to CD as he did with AFD and UYIs then it will be a big hit.  GnR has the image and crediblity already.  All he has to do is put out the few really good songs on one album (like AFD and UYI). Usually a band has 1 hit to a cd these days.  The media is going to have a field day with GnR when CD is released. 

I don't think it will sell 14 million copies or anything but I won't be suprised if it sells 7 million.
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« Reply #154 on: December 09, 2005, 04:32:08 AM »

I think you isn't right!!!
Chinese democracy will be great album for sure(I think Axl is one of the most talented rock musicans ever),but revolution is to high word!!!
Why?
Because Axl now have 43,when cd come out 44 years so young peoplewon't to see idol or something high in him!!!
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« Reply #155 on: December 09, 2005, 08:58:48 AM »

I think not.... because once his new Album comes out it will spark the older listeners and make new listeners listen due to the history of the band .... this record could bomb and still be great ok
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« Reply #156 on: December 09, 2005, 11:22:17 AM »

Chinese Democracy won't come close to touching Appetite For Destruction.  No way, no how.

Of course I hope I'm wrong but IMO CD will be damn lucky to sell as well as one of the two Illusions but I feel that'll be a stretch.
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« Reply #157 on: December 09, 2005, 11:24:45 AM »

Chinese Democracy won't come close to touching Appetite For Destruction.? No way, no how.

Of course I hope I'm wrong but IMO CD will be damn lucky to sell as well as one of the two Illusions but I feel that'll be a stretch.

Album's sold does not always = greatness.

I think we should wait until we actually HEAR the new album before we comment on how good it may be...
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« Reply #158 on: December 09, 2005, 11:46:26 AM »

Chinese Democracy won't come close to touching Appetite For Destruction.? No way, no how.

Of course I hope I'm wrong but IMO CD will be damn lucky to sell as well as one of the two Illusions but I feel that'll be a stretch.

Album's sold does not always = greatness.

I think we should wait until we actually HEAR the new album before we comment on how good it may be...


Your first statement is true.  But in response to the thread-starter's original prediction about revolutions and whatnot, weak album sales ain't gonna break any new ground or launch any revolutions.  Hence, I don't think comparing it to Appetite is even humorously plausible.  With Axl's state in the media and casual fans' minds it would take a monstrous, brilliantly conceived juggernaut AND mega album sales to equal or top Appetite.  And while it may not be fair to shoot the album down before hearing it, for speculation sake, the latter isn't very likely.
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« Reply #159 on: December 09, 2005, 07:30:20 PM »

Bollocks. The sales of Nevermind bollocks wasn't that huge.

It led to a revolutionary change of scene.
but this or that caused by nirvana's nevermind shouldn't be called "musical" revolution as they were not really musically new.

Each movement wasn't done by a band singlehandedly.
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