Chinese Democracy will be bigger than Appetite and lead to a music revolution

[ppbebe]

so then he is in a position to "do an Appetite" - not in the sense of the sound!? but, in the sense that they are set up to make something that is different from everything that is out on the scene
these guys are hungry and fresh and their chemistry has been growing together over the few years as they have joined this venture one by one

Yay!? they are the people
? ? ? ? ? ? ?
              Who got fun 'n' games
? ? ? ? ? ? ? they got everything we want
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Honey they know the names
? ? ? ? ? ? ? They are the people that can find
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Whatever we may need

  Be warned! Be warned! Guns n' Roses!!!

[grog mug]

We all know the album will be huge.  Bigger than Appetite though...I think it will be close, if advertised correctly.  They need to market this album like GN'R is a "new" band, and show some footage of this grand studio everyone claims they record in, and then release a huge epic sounding single.  I know CD has hours and hours of work poured into it and it's fresh with this band, so yes it will go #1, and yes it will be HUGE.

[mikegiuliana]

Grog,

WIthout ever hearing one note and seeing how the public reacts to the album how do you know that it will be as big or near as big as afd?

I have no doubt just with the gnr name to help carry it that it will sell good regardless of the material, but to sell 15 million copies these days is unheard of, lots of people download shit, we will buy the album but you know what I mean..

As for publicity they definetly need to do something, I can picture alot of mtv thing to promote the video and a sit down with kurt loder...

[norway]

they would have been creating with popularity in mind..that's my point.

Thats what american idol albums are for Don't think gnr cares about that

nirvana wen't against what was popular a the time and hit it big

gnr can be setting the trends instead of following them...
you're not starting a revolution by doing whats popular at the time

the revealed songs shows they using a lot of the new sounds and blends music with various new and old music genre
we'll get single types of songs when cd is at launch, no point in revealin such songs when an albums is not done,
-so the new songs are as they are for a reason

We all wan't gnr to be a commercial success again, and if it's a failure to some if kids don't think axl are sexy and hip enough-
- there are other people in the band

I think it's not insane to belive cd will be bigger than anything and lead to a revolution

gnr is one of the best rockbands there is, and they'll stand and deliver (cross my fingers)

[nesquick]

We all know the album will be huge.  Bigger than Appetite though...I think it will be close, if advertised correctly.  They need to market this album like GN'R is a "new" band, and show some footage of this grand studio everyone claims they record in, and then release a huge epic sounding single.  I know CD has hours and hours of work poured into it and it's fresh with this band, so yes it will go #1, and yes it will be HUGE.

- it will be #1 for sure, no doubt on it
- for the rest, all will depend on the quality of the music...and the promotion.

[mikegiuliana]

they would have been creating with popularity in mind..that's my point.

Thats what american idol albums are for Don't think gnr cares about that

nirvana wen't against what was popular a the time and hit it big

gnr can be setting the trends instead of following them...
you're not starting a revolution by doing whats popular at the time

the revealed songs shows they using a lot of the new sounds and blends music with various new and old music genre
we'll get single types of songs when cd is at launch, no point in revealin such songs when an albums is not done,
-so the new songs are as they are for a reason

We all wan't gnr to be a commercial success again, and if it's a failure to some if kids don't think axl are sexy and hip enough-
- there are other people in the band

I think it's not insane to belive cd will be bigger than anything and lead to a revolution

gnr is one of the best rockbands there is, and they'll stand and deliver (cross my fingers)

Nirvana was different, even though gnr is a "new" band it still comes with a stigma or title of what it's like wether bias or not.. ANyone who has ever started a switch in popular music was unknown for most parts or on their first time around..

[ppbebe]

Here's a simple analagy; when you're buying a gift for someone at Christmas, you try to buy something THEY will like that still says something about YOU.

Which pressie would you like, something on your demand or a surprise?

An earth shattering surprise for me please.

[norway]

Nirvana was different, even though gnr is a "new" band it still comes with a stigma or title of what it's like wether bias or not.. ANyone who has ever started a switch in popular music was unknown for most parts or on their first time around..

as far as a revolution maybe, but only the name has those associations
look at kylie minoque, pop in the 80's and bigger now in her 40's? (she's hot too )

gnr and axl will for sure have that possibillety and musicwise they maybe break a lot of barriers
(dunno if barriers was the right word, my english is bad)

agree that a revolution lies mostly in the unknown, new and unexpected, (those weren't your words though )

[mikegiuliana]

Kylie, I remember when she first came out with her cover of the locomotion, no one really remembered her, she was in the same league as tiffany, and debbie gibson.. 

la la la la la la la la la la la.. Kylie has a smoking little body, that's why I payed attention and she came back during a hottie period in music.. SHe came n went though..

I never said a big movement or change in music was not possible I just feel people are getting a little overboard without hearing any of the new tracks.. Gnr could fit into the emo style with some big ballads, Now I DIDN'T saythey were EMO, but people seem to be into those lovey dovey songs, and keene seems to be accepted so there's love and the piano..

As long as it's rocking and has energy it all should be good..

Everything will be up to axl, depends on his will to bring the album to the people

[norway]

Kylie has a smoking little body,

YES

hope for lots of rockers on cd

[ppbebe]

Inexpert and unknown Bands lead new movements n fashions and become the order of the day. I don?t consider all of those trends as the revolution in MUSIC. Most of them have nothing innovative musically. Their sounds are revival n Renaissance at most.

Beatles was one of them and wellknown as catchy pop rock n roll band before they started to release revolutionary music after the album Rubber Sole.
Jimmy Page was well recognized as Yard Bards guitarist before he started Led Zeppelin.

Then again There are always unknown Indy kinda groups doing something innovative but often stay at the minor status. It seems like Bands debut with the extraordinary music can?t start big music movements. Offbeat.

Music revolutions have been done by experienced musicians.

[nesquick]

Don't be too exigent. Personately, I am not waiting for a musical revolution. a good album + a tour + good sales would already be fantastic.  Don't ask Axl too much, he is just a human.

[Neemo]

[quote author=Eva GnRAxlRosette link=topic=16943.msg292525#msg292525
like ppbebe said - GN'R are in a position to do what any 'new band' on the scene has the opportunity to do
offer something fresh
something different
something that will be emulated and appreciated for years to come
and in many ways they are in one of the better positons than I can imagine any other new band could be in to do just that

ppbebe I realize now that MUSICAL REVOLUTION was a bit of a stretch, how about, changed the music scene for a few years?

the point was is that older musicians have a harder time winning over young fans, its usually the young bands that identify with the kids more (or at least appeal to them) and without the young crowd there is no way that Guns will be a revolutionary band.

And Guns are not a "new" band, with the name the band will always have their songs compared with NR, WTTJ, Don't Cry, Estranged, SCOM, etc, etc. its hard to start fresh (no matter many new members there are) when there is so many great hits above their head. Don't get me wrong, G'n'R are my alltime favorite band, I am really looking forward to the new album, and I loved the show I saw in 2002 and WILL see them again if they ever tour again, but, Guns and Roses are now classic rock and any new songs they put out will be catagorized as such and kids don't dig classic rock, and because of this they will not be nearly as huge as they were in the early '90's. ?therefore now musical revolution.

Sorry, but that's my opinion.

[ppbebe]

That's a renaissance not a revolution in music. A musical revolution is extremely difficult to make for any band. Since it?s said that all possible ideas, forms n tunes had been exhausted for ages already.

As I said, as far as they give me what they want to offer to the world, I'm happy. Seeing the world love their gift too, I?ll be even happier. If I see a lil Innovation on it, I'll bliss out.

The musical revolution is just a talk. It?s said to be impossible for any band.
But if any, GN?R is the one. They?re the right people the closest to it right now.
That's all.

[Jessica]

There is a musical revolution in being ....

Sound sculptures based on the earth?s natural movement and sounds ...My cousin invented it.

Here you can read a bit :

Lorella Abenavoli ( that's her name plus she is very pretty) , electroacoustic sculptor


The idea behind this sculpture was the creation of a temporal, sensitive, sound space, allowing us to listen to the very depths of the earth: a continuous terrestrial sound radiating from the heart of the architecture. The earth moves. The lunar and solar tides, which transform it, the energy with which it vibrates, as well as that which it expels, the perpetual telluric movements mixed with the celestial, creating the intimate and temporal form of the earth.

Le Souffle de la terre (The breath of the earth) is a sculpture, which uses sound in order to reveal its form in time and space. The sounds are created in real-time from the earth?s movements, whose waves are recorded then reworked thanks to digitizing techniques and the creation of a new piece of software designed especially for this project. As such, they can be made audible and transformed into a work of art in any given space.

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From that, you can go many interesting derived sounds and musics.

[ppbebe]

a good album + a tour + good sales would already be fantastic.?

Totally agree.

Don't ask Axl too much, he is just a human.

Totally agree.? Don't.

Ask not Axl alone.
A leader is a human. GNR is a band of 6 humans not of A single human.
And the upcoming album is a joint work of 8 talented individuals, not of a single gifted individual.
It's A band of people with Various styles n thoughts but one heart, not with identical styles n ideas but different intentions.
Ask the band whatever. 

[norway]

Don't be too exigent. Personately, I am not waiting for a musical revolution. a good album + a tour + good sales would already be fantastic.? Don't ask Axl too much, he is just a human.

yeah, just a delivery is as a succes to me

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

Don't be too exigent. Personately, I am not waiting for a musical revolution. a good album + a tour + good sales would already be fantastic.? Don't ask Axl too much, he is just a human.

yeah, just a delivery is as a succes to me

has the anticipation of an album ever been as prolific as the anticiaption of CD?
i mean it is mentioned everywhere... from RS to small town newspapers and webpages

the release of the CD in and of itself will be a legendary accomplishment

Bring it on Guns!

[mikegiuliana]

Don't be too exigent. Personately, I am not waiting for a musical revolution. a good album + a tour + good sales would already be fantastic.? Don't ask Axl too much, he is just a human.

yeah, just a delivery is as a succes to me

has the anticipation of an album ever been as prolific as the anticiaption of CD?
i mean it is mentioned everywhere... from RS to small town newspapers and webpages

the release of the CD in and of itself will be a legendary accomplishment

Bring it on Guns!

I think it's more of a running joke than tons of anticipation..

[nesquick]

I think it's more of a running joke than tons of anticipation..

Don't be too negative. I think It's both. and you know, all the people who have criticized Axl and? who have made fun of this album will be the first one to buy it and to listen to it. There exists a strong anticipation for this album. I'm curious to see how much copies it will sell the first week....it's going to be a #1 for sure, but how much copies I 'm very curious to know it.