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Re: Silk worms
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Well, we dont know much about what Guns N Roses is! If u think they will make the same type of music az the old GNR did back in the days, well, then ur waiting for nothing!
I agree. I am exited about the fact GNR are going to be pushing the envelope much more thanthe old band was willing to do. If you are still dissapointed that GNR isn`t going to be like the old band, doing all the aerosmith meets AC/DC sound, listen to the old stuff or go get Contraband.
VR is good, but not groundbreaking.
And Silkworms is an awesome song. Its not pop friendly, maybe thats why a lot of people don`t like it. It isn`t Sweet Child O` Mine.
I like indutrial music, NIN is one of my favourite bands, but if I want to listen good industrial music, I'll take a NIN cd, if I want some good rock music, I'll pick up GN'R. There's no need for such a change, Silkworms is pure crap in the industrial style, too. SW is not bad, because it's not pop or mainstream (I like a lot of non-mainstream music), it's bad, because it's bad. I tried to listen the song for at least 20 times, but I just didn't like it. Some weeks ago I listened it again (HOB), and it was even worse than I remembered! If CD will contain that type of music, then it won't be an album for me, and I can predict that an SW style comeback will make Axl the biggest looser in the music history. But it won't happen, Axl had to realize that SW is pure crap, so he'll never release it.
In your opinion it's crap, but there are alot of people who like this song.
1. The board has 4116 members right now. It includes a lot of inactive members, and a lot of people are registered on other GN'R boards, too. I don't think that the sum of internet using GN'R fans would top 30,000.
2. Even if every internet fans like this song, it's not enough for Nu-GN'R.
3. I shoewd the Nu-GN'R songs to some of my friends, some of them are GN'R fans, some of them like only a few songs, some of them didn't like the old band. All of them said that SW is the worst song they had ever heard. Some of the older fans liked Madagascar and found The Blues and CD to be mediocre, but listenable songs. They hated the other ones (Rhiad, OMG). Believe me, the world 'is not ready' to accept a Silkworms type album. Not only from Axl, from any musician, cause it's really
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I showed the song
What I'm saying is just because YOU dont like the song it doesnt mean that it's crap. I love it, i think it's a really cool song.
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Re: Silk worms
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Quote from: Mikkamakka on November 25, 2004, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: GnRFL on November 25, 2004, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: Nytunz on November 25, 2004, 10:15:30 AM
Well, we dont know much about what Guns N Roses is! If u think they will make the same type of music az the old GNR did back in the days, well, then ur waiting for nothing!
I agree. I am exited about the fact GNR are going to be pushing the envelope much more thanthe old band was willing to do. If you are still dissapointed that GNR isn`t going to be like the old band, doing all the aerosmith meets AC/DC sound, listen to the old stuff or go get Contraband.
VR is good, but not groundbreaking.
And Silkworms is an awesome song. Its not pop friendly, maybe thats why a lot of people don`t like it. It isn`t Sweet Child O` Mine.
I like indutrial music, NIN is one of my favourite bands, but if I want to listen good industrial music, I'll take a NIN cd, if I want some good rock music, I'll pick up GN'R. There's no need for such a change, Silkworms is pure crap in the industrial style, too. SW is not bad, because it's not pop or mainstream (I like a lot of non-mainstream music), it's bad, because it's bad. I tried to listen the song for at least 20 times, but I just didn't like it. Some weeks ago I listened it again (HOB), and it was even worse than I remembered! If CD will contain that type of music, then it won't be an album for me, and I can predict that an SW style comeback will make Axl the biggest looser in the music history. But it won't happen, Axl had to realize that SW is pure crap, so he'll never release it.
Remeber that you are comparing a live version to finished product. If it comes out on Chinese Democracy and it sucks, I`ll agree with you.
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Re: Silk worms
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These Silk Worms threads are so very similar to the My World threads
I like what MikeGuiliana said - "something for everyone"
what is the big deal if GN'R makes a song that you don't like...
for chrissakes - just tonight I read someone posted that they hate Estranged!
LOL!
GN'R has always been diverse in their music.
November Rain was kicking around since the AFD days
and c'mon!
SCOM is on AFD
... even though its so different from the rest of the tracks on AFD
the Illusions albums were also very diverse
And Axl has spoke about evolving and progressing the bands sound many times
Whether or not Silkworms is on CD... its an indication of things the band have worked on while working on the music for CD
It doesn't mean that any certain percentage per se is going to be like Silkworms... Just means that they have worked on a wide variety of sounds
This does not surprise me.
Axl said CD will be a melting pot.
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Why should they limit themselves to one certain sound?
They have the talent and creativity to do so much more than "yer straight rocker"!
anyway, I really like Silkworms very much.
I love some of the descriptions some of you posted.
My immediate impression of the song was that I was blown away...
The intro is just so out there... spacey... kinda like its lifting you off the ground softly
then BAM they slam you right back down to the ground
The effects.. the gutiars... the vocals.. the lyrics...
Love... love... love... LOVE!
I hope we DO get a studio recording of this song.
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The work of Chris Pittman and Dizzy Reed.
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Silkworms it's bad, because it's bad. I tried to listen the song for at least 20 times, but I just didn't like it. Some weeks ago I listened it again (HOB), and it was even worse than I remembered!
If CD will contain that type of music, then it won't be an album for me, and I can predict that an Silkworms style comeback will make Axl the biggest looser in the music history
. But it won't happen, Axl had to realize that SW is pure crap, so he'll never release it.
1) I totally agree with you...until the last sentence.
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Axl had to realize that Silkworms is pure crap, so he'll never release it
": come on if he played it, if he decided to sing it in front of 200.000 people in Rio, it's because he wanted it. In my opinion it was like a test. Something like "ok let's play that song and that kind of music (indus) and let's see the reaction": and the general reaction was absolutely terrible, Axl has to understand that with this kind of music he goes to failure. I hope he understood that when "my world" appeared. But he didn't. He has continued to write and to loose time on unecessary undus style songs. I can't believe "chinese democracy" is going to be an indus record, if it was, it would be a nightmare. a real nightmare. This is my biggest fear: to buy "chinese democracy" and to discover 14 or 15 indus tracks....even one would be a desapointement. do you listen to me? even one. I don't want him to repeat the same mistake he did on UYI 2 with "my world". UYI2 would have been considered as one of the greatest record of all time unless "my world". But that song destroyed the reputation of this record. How to ruin an entire album with the last track...what a mistake.
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Re: Silk worms
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Silkworms it's bad, because it's bad. I tried to listen the song for at least 20 times, but I just didn't like it. Some weeks ago I listened it again (HOB), and it was even worse than I remembered!
If CD will contain that type of music, then it won't be an album for me, and I can predict that an Silkworms style comeback will make Axl the biggest looser in the music history
. But it won't happen, Axl had to realize that SW is pure crap, so he'll never release it.
1) I totally agree with you...until the last sentence.
2) "
Axl had to realize that Silkworms is pure crap, so he'll never release it
": come on if he played it, if he decided to sing it in front of 200.000 people in Rio, it's because he wanted it. In my opinion it was like a test. Something like "ok let's play that song and that kind of music (indus) and let's see the reaction": and the general reaction was absolutely terrible, Axl has to understand that with this kind of music he goes to failure.
I agree and that's what I wanted to mean. I hope that HOB and RIR3 were tests for the new and 'diverse' material. He had to realize that the world isn't ready for that type of music except of about 30,000 hardcore Axl fans, but they'd buy anything he records, even if it's some kazoo music by his fart. (As some of you mentioned earlier that even Axl's last fart is more valuable than anything on Contraband.)
BTW I have no problems with My World. I consider it as a joke, although I know it wasn't. But you can tell a joke to the same people for only once, so let's forget about releasing SW.
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Get used to songs like silkworms, omg they sure be some of them on the disc
A lot of others than "hardcore" fans gets into silkworms, it's an amazing song
then it's the scream at the end, hope they put this out as a studiotrack
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i love this song! its great when u are pissed off!
what can i do ? with a bitch like u, u know that its true! its awesome!
great lyrics and very raw! i love it!
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November 26, 2004, 01:46:23 PM »
first off, the music is brilliant in this song! some great synth and electronica. very atmospheric, kinda scary. ihope to hear a couple of tracks similiar to this on 'chinese democracy' however' i don't wish nor do i expect the whole album to be like this. Axl lyrics are ok, probably not the best song to play live without a studio version to back it up. but i very much doubt this song will be on the album cos as far as i know it wasn't played during the 2002 shows...so it may have been scrapped.
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i hate the whole keyboard thing(above poster) i think he should get back to how he started get a excellent guitarist, and rock us for some more years.
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i dont like the long stupid low volume special effect at the beginning but once the song starts going, it rocks.. i could scream those lyrics on top of my lungs anytime!
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Hope he sings it aggresive on the studio track
it really goes in an upward loop, as when you are pissed, ranting and your voice gets more and more intense and ripping
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I think the people that hate this song need to experience it live. Front row in Vegas will change your mind forever about Silk Worms. It was one of the best songs performed that night. I'll never forget how much the band loved performing it, and it sounds nothing like the Rio bootleg.
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Quote from: D on November 26, 2004, 06:34:56 AM
i love this song! its great when u are pissed off!
what can i do ? with a bitch like u, u know that its true!? its awesome!
great lyrics and very raw! i love it!
has any one heard this new version of Silkworms?
http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=611B25EF415247356FC825B14688050E
it sound like a new studio clip to me!
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Quote from: Boner on November 27, 2004, 09:05:01 PM
Quote from: D on November 26, 2004, 06:34:56 AM
i love this song! its great when u are pissed off!
what can i do ? with a bitch like u, u know that its true!? its awesome!
great lyrics and very raw! i love it!
has any one heard this new version of Silkworms?
http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=611B25EF415247356FC825B14688050E
it sound like a new studio clip to me!
Sounds like a Rio Live Clip to me.
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The GNR community has not waited 11 years for Silk Worms quality songs. I think that says it all if that song makes CD.
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Thats RIR3 for sure. Just a little more synth through the first few seconds.
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I like Silkworms.
It's different from the other new songs we have heard.
I'm excited to see all the different directions that the music is evolving.
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Hey guys, i up "Sillk worms - Live Rock In Rio 3, the mp3".
This is the link.
http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/gnrdownloads/Guns_N__Roses_-_Silkworms_.mp3
And my site, is:
http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/gnrdownloads/index.html
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The GNR community has not waited 11 years for Silk Worms quality songs. I think that says it all if that song makes CD.
+1.
Since the first day I have said that indus kind of music would be a faillure for an Axl/GN'R come back, and I have never changed my mind and will never change it because I'm convinced that Indus Music is not what Guns n' Roses needs. Modernizing the sound, yes ok no problem, it is necessary because we are not in 1987 or 1991 anymore, Madagascar is the perfect exemple of what would be good, and silkworms the perfect exemple of what would be bad for "chinese democracy". There is a big difference between modernizing your sound, modernizing your music, and make indus music. Indus music is way to extreme. Now it's Axl's band, if Axl wants to make indus this is his right, but I hope he won't be surprised if nobody buy the record and iF it turns into a huge failure because it sounds indus. That's not good music quality. he can wait ,10,15 or 20 years, bad music will always be bad music. That's as simple as that. and Silkworms is bad music. It happens that's not a crime! you can be one of the most talented musician and sometimes make bad music. The most important is not to make it again. The most important is to avoid to make another ones. And Indus is not the good direction. I hope Geffen Record also told him that? and made him understand that.
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