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VELVET REVOLVER: Tensions On The Road Run High
VELVET REVOLVER guitarist Dave Kushner recently told Entertainment Weekly (EW.com) that the group's decision to do away with their drug-fueled lifestyle of the past doesn't necessarily equal stability. "You don't need drugs and alcohol to have drama," said Kushner. "Sometimes the absence of it makes it worse. You've got five big egos, you've got testosterone, and there's not a lot of solutions out here on the road." Tensions have been running high on the group's current U.S. tour. Singer Scott Weiland is mad at drummer Matt Sorum and his appetite for groupies. At every venue, the crew sets up a "Vibe Room"with tapestries on the wall and mellow lighting and comfy chairsfor the band to relax in after a show. Sorum, sick of hanging out with a bunch of married guys, created an alternate space, a party room dubbed the Velvet Lounge. "He just wants to proliferate his own image," fumed Weiland to the rest of the band, "but it's degrading porno orgy shit! What are our wives going to think when they go backstage and there's boobs everywhere?" Sorum, for his part, is still irritated about Weiland's posting a long rant in support of John Kerry on the band's website. "Scott got something up his ass that day, so he put something on our website," he says. "We don't have to fucking put our political views on other people."
"Those two cause the most drama," sighed one crew member. "It's like having two lead singers." They're the ones who will pitch a fit about an early flight or the lint on a hotel room rug. Meanwhile, Kushner, who was on unemployment before VELVET REVOLVER signed their record deal, can barely bring himself to splurge on room service. "Part of you has to realize that it could end tomorrow," he said over a lunch of two Dunkin' Donuts. "If I spend like a jerk, I'm going to end up a broke jerk." Still, Kushner is trying to enjoy the ride while it lasts. "When Scott was having his chemical misadventures, a friend told me, 'You know, dude, you're in a rock band. If you want a safe and steady job, go pound nails for a living.'"
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What's the problem if he has a seperate room for his lust?? SOunds like scott is being a typical person who is now clean and becomes bitter towards guys who still live a semi decadent lifestyle..
I bet he's just pissed because he's married and can't enjoy..
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no actually Scott is right. Because all the guys are married and I'm sure all have the same problem with Matt Sorum and his orgies every night with 18year olds.
I would probably do that too if I was a rock star but not when I'm 44. I think I would be settled down by then as most people do.
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Quote from: Top-Hatted One on November 23, 2004, 10:54:00 AM
no actually Scott is right. Because all the guys are married and I'm sure all have the same problem with Matt Sorum and his orgies every night with 18year olds.
I would probably do that too if I was a rock star but not when I'm 44. I think I would be settled down by then as most people do.
There's the first mistake, all the guys aren't married.. If matt's in his seprate room getting laid then let it be, these are the same people who did the same things.. Not everyone changes because they are older.. The man is single, let him be..
Also most wives or rockstars should come to know these types of things.. A little T&A at a rock star isn't suprising..
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orgys are fun. go matt. :d
i can see why scott is complaning. i guess the temptation is to high... but then again i always thought scott was more into 18 year old boys than girls.
and it's good to see they don't need an Axl Rose in the Band to have problems.
just the other day matt was saying how scott was the best frontman he has ever worked with. when matt gets fired or the band breaks up, i want to see how long will it take for matt to see scott has fallen from grace.
they're a band fr little over 2 years and already they can't stand each other.
i can't say i don't enjoy this at some level. they disearve it for bad mouthing axl for everything that went wrong in gnr. now they say they have the perfect band. but then again. there's trouble in paradise .
to bad for dave, he's the one that really needs this band to work out. he's not a millionaire like the rest of the guys.
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i always thought scott was more into 18 year old boys than girls.
It's good to see you in the VR section
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mean bone you sound like a drama queen, how do you know tensions are so high and they hate eachother?? Not liking political views and not liking a guy who has sex with groupies has nothing to do with teh band's creativity... ?
It's just something they dislike about what they are doing outside of the band.. ?There's no problem involving music or things of that nature, these are outside issues..
Oh they knock axl, poor baby, maybe if he wasn't so bizarre he wouldn't get knocked, and who is anyone to say he was easy to work with? It's different when a band goes from playing killer rocks n ballads like afd to a axl show with millions in videos, bloated with horns n female backup singers and huge selfindulgent songs ,walking off stage, not showing up for shows, now that's an ego..
Now that's an ego, these are just disagreements.. If you read scott's interviews he says these things fuel the abnd, like a marriage just because you diagreed doesn't mean it will end in divorce..
I bet you are someone that gets pissed if they say something about axl, but yet you're the first to say I'd be happy if they broke up because they made fun of axl..
I hope some of you saying such childish things aren't that old..
Anyways you'd ahve to be a fool (not you in general) to think these guys all don't have an ego to a point, this is nothing suprising.. Lookat the bands they came from.. Either way they have all spoke high of eachother as players, they don't need to agree with everything eachother does outside the studio..
As for the scott thing he's no different then jagger n bowie on stage, plus it always amazes me how someone who loves axl can call another singer gay, have you seen axl's outfits n makeup..?
I don'tr think either are gay, they just have their own style and stage dancing..
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MB, I thought I would post this for you from a person who saw vr in canada last night
What can I say?? Velvet Revolver ROCKS!!!!! What an awesome show!!!! Was a little pissed about the wait, but it was well worth it!!! I'm literally speechless!!!
Went down to The Edge.
Scott, Slash, Dave & Duff were really nice signing stuff and having pictures taken with fans. My son got his picture taken with Duff, he's freaked! He got to meet Slash his IDOL!!! Think he'll be on a VR high for the next few days.
Have to make mention of Emmers (nice to meet you!) She drew two pencil sketches of Dave & Scott. Dave was really impressed! Emmers, you did an amazing job!!!
Point is they are together and every band has it's problems..
Hope everyone rocked the joint like I did!!! No Right, you would have been proud
Can't wait for the next VR show!
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Meanbone has some points there.
All these years we've heard the stories about how horrible it was in GN'R and yet it seems like this band that's like "a gang" are fighting too.
Axl was an egoist because he wanted his own dressing room, well look at how VR are doing it. One guy wants his "groupie" room.
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The dressing room shit is so petty, I would care less.. Matt wants to party and the other guys, or scott might not like it so now he's out of their hair..
I still don't get what the gay comments have to do with anything..
Every interview I read everyone is loving the band, they just had some petty issues.. If the world din't change into a bunch of old cunts reporting every peep we wouldn't see this lame shit.. Every spoken word is analyzed six fold around the forums, it doesn't mean things are that terrible..
Well they'll be on conan tomorrow so we'll see how they act.. A person who gives agood interview would tackle these issues..
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I can't see where it says Matt's doing the nasty in his 'Velvet Lounge' thing. It just sounds to me like Scott wants to chill after a show with a nonalcoholic beer, and Matt wants to chill with groupies. Jeez, look at Zeppelin. Jimmy Page was groupie-groper par excellence. Just because one guy wants to do his own thing, doesn't mean the band's suddenly on the verge of collapse. That said, I see what Matt's saying with the 'Vote Kerry' thing. Scott shouldn't have put that on the band website. He should've sent it to blabbermouth or whatever if he wanted to make a point, but not on the band's site.
Besides, would you still like them if they group-hugged after a gig, then went home to bed with a cup of cocoa and a good book?
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i met VR too, and i enjoy their album, and what their doing. i wouldn't be the happiest guy alive if they broke up, but if they did for tensions in the group in a couple of years it would be funny for me. they're always talking how axl is this and that. and how their band is so much better. well. newsflash if you want it to work you gotta make it work. and even here in Lisbon Scott was having a bad day cuz all the band was sortta angry at him or disapointed. couldn't really tell. the girl that worked for their record company and was with the band all time and arranged the meeting for us VR fans called me in from the Hotel where she was staying with the band saying the band was ready but scott was heaving some sort of meltdown and wasn't getting out of the room and she didn't even know if they could meet up with the fans anymore since the band was upset with scott. i could actually hear the screams over the phone. the band got to the soundcheck 1 hour later with no scott. couldn't say i was sorry cuz it was never in my agenda to meet him, but 2 guys there were heart broken cuz they were scott's fans. when VR came up, slash appoligized for scott and so did duff. they said he wasn't "feeling" well . whatever. i didn't even care as long as he showed up for the gig. all i know is that the promoters were having a really bad day with scott. and right then i thought he wasn't all that different from the Axl they all complained. well for what it's worth i'm more like dave. enjoy it while you can. i, personnaly, don't think it will last.
i can be wrong and one incident like the one in lisbon can't put an end to a band. but if they keep on coming i'll like to wait and see.
as for the gn'r getting bloated- yeah that was Axl's thing. cuz teddy isn't Slash's big friend. and slash didn't say all the time how he enjoyed the 8 guys in the band and backup singers. as far as i see it they only show interest in what's happening in the present. when it's behind their back they'll all say they hated it- just like Matt saying in Bheind the music special he didn't sighn up for a band with a piano and all the other stuff going on on the UIY tour. well. that just shows how much of an idiot Axl had to put up with. he's basicly saying in the making of November Rain how the band is at it's best moment and how happy a thrilled he is to be part of it. now he's in VR so he can say bad things about gn'r or actually speak what was on his mind all the time. either way i still see him as a bad person to have in a band.
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mean bone I agree, I haven't documented everything they said, but people do say how they truely feel after the facts.. I've worked with people and had pleasant things to say to keep the peace when I wasn't happy, but later when all was said and done I spoke how I truly felt because there wasn't any reprucussions..
I really believe the guys like axl, they did say he was an amazing frontman in btm, and slash has said he likes him as a human being.. That's not abnormal, we like a person in genral but not to work with.. People change when business is involved..
SOmetimes though I think vr has no intensions of mentioning axl but they get asked by every interviewer.. Everyone has to admitt that they get frequent questions about gnr n axl, shame that axl can't answer the question himself..
It is what it is my man, as long as they just go about their business I wouldn't worry mushc, every group has their spats.. 5 guys can't gell every minute of the day anbd people always get on other's nerves, and everyone can't agree with the music..
I just think things are taken way to serious, every word out of someone's mouth is so over analyzed/..
Good points MB...
Didn't axl once say that the old guys didn't want to play those ballads from a newer show onstage..?
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wow, there are problems in a band!
It doesn't happen with other bands, does it?
For beginners: there are problems in every band. It's not easy to live with others for a long time, and the guys have different personalities.
And there are problems with the frontman! Oh no! Show me one successful frontman who is not a d.head to live with.
But there is a big difference between GN'R and VR: VR shows up for the gigs and doesn't miss one because of 'flu'.
They will surely break up someday, that's how things work.
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wow, there are problems in a band!?
It doesn't happen with other bands, does it?
For beginners: there are problems in every band. It's not easy to live with others for a long time, and the guys have different personalities.
And there are problems with the frontman! Oh no! Show me one successful frontman who is not a d.head to live with.
But there is a big difference between? GN'R and VR: VR shows up for the gigs and doesn't miss one because of 'flu'.
They will surely break up someday, that's how things work.
They did miss a texas show because scott had broncitis, but it was made up in october when they came back from europe..
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"They did miss a texas show because scott had broncitis, but it was made up in october when they came back from europe.."
Yep...that's the difference
Axl has issues making it to shows, let alone making them up
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no actually Scott is right. Because all the guys are married and I'm sure all have the same problem with Matt Sorum and his orgies every night with 18year olds.
I would probably do that too if I was a rock star but not when I'm 44. I think I would be settled down by then as most people do.
There's the first mistake, all the guys aren't married.. If matt's in his seprate room getting laid then let it be, these are the same people who did the same things.. Not everyone changes because they are older.. The man is single, let him be..
Also most wives or rockstars should come to know these types of things.. A little T&A at a rock star isn't suprising..
who isn't married? Douglas Grean?
Slash is, Duff is, Scott is and Dave just got married
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orgys are fun. go matt. :d
i can see why scott is complaning. i guess the temptation is to high... but then again i always thought scott was more into 18 year old boys than girls.
and it's good to see they don't need an Axl Rose in the Band to have problems.
just the other day matt was saying how scott was the best frontman he has ever worked with. when matt gets fired or the band breaks up, i want to see how long will it take for matt to see scott has fallen from grace.
they're a band fr little over 2 years and already they can't stand each other.
i can't say i don't enjoy this at some level. they disearve it for bad mouthing axl for everything that went wrong in gnr. now they say they have the perfect band. but then again. there's trouble in paradise .
to bad for dave, he's the one that really needs this band to work out. he's not a millionaire like the rest of the guys.
i think your assumptions are ridiculous.
to me, it proves that matt and the rest of the crew are pretty normal guys. and that DESPITE the fights they are going through, they still consider scott the best frontman ever.
so it proves that their expectations are not unreasonable. and that they understand that if you spend that much time with anyone, you're gonna have fights.
in fact, a true measure of a great friend is being able to fight with them.
and it's obvious to me that they do not hate each other at all. just some petty shit that's getting on each other's nerves. totally expected.
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no actually Scott is right. Because all the guys are married and I'm sure all have the same problem with Matt Sorum and his orgies every night with 18year olds.
I would probably do that too if I was a rock star but not when I'm 44. I think I would be settled down by then as most people do.
There's the first mistake, all the guys aren't married.. If matt's in his seprate room getting laid then let it be, these are the same people who did the same things.. Not everyone changes because they are older.. The man is single, let him be..
Also most wives or rockstars should come to know these types of things.. A little T&A at a rock star isn't suprising..
who isn't married? Douglas Grean?
Slash is, Duff is, Scott is and Dave just got married
I was kind of joking because you said EVERYONE is married and I was refering to matt.. So everyone isn't married and you can't get pissed at him for being a typical rocker after a show..
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