For God's sake, the Radiohead thread

[kj_jive]

All right, I just want to set the record straight.  Every thread i read seems to have some reference to Radiohead "sucking" or how boring they are, and how uninspired and lame Thom Yorke's vocals are.  Being the huge Radiohead fan that I am, I've created this thread to provide a place to voice all your collective greivences concerning Radiohead and hopefully to educate some of you uneducated pricks on the brilliance contained in Radiohead albums.  However, i realize that this is undoubtedly going to resort to a flaming bombardment against Radiohead, and me.  That's okay though.  I'd absolutely love to hear how great Bon Jovi is when he sings how he rides on his steel horse or how much of a musical genious Prince can be when he beckons you to "cum" in every one of his songs.

Radiohead is not for the common music fan.  Although they do release singles (rarely in the US), they are by no means a "singles" radio friendly type of band.  Their music requires some thought and possibly repeated listens to discern all the different layers that may not be present in your favorite Iron Maiden, Queen or fucking U2 album.  Fuck listening to a single and writing them off.  Go buy OK Computer or Kid A and actually give it a chance.  I mean really listen to it, the entire album, not just a portion of a song and then skip to the next "hot track" as our ipod induced generation is so likely to do.  Their is a lot going on in their music, a lot more than most bands and they've successfully created a sound that is entirely their own.

I may be coming off as an asshole, but so what.  Fuck you.  Don't diss Radiohead when you listen to bullshit like U2 or Bon Jovi, get a clue.

[axl_rose_700]

Interesting thread, I've never really listened to them too much but I've heard a few tracks at a mate's house, and I quite liked them, and I've heard Creep on the radio, I liked that aswell, so I might actually check out some more of their songs. Any you can recommend!

You might want to prepare yourself from a bashing from D now though, you did just slag off Prince AND Bon Jovi in the same thread!! In D's eye's this is a hangable offence!!   

[MadmanDan]

I was forced to listen to some of their album by my cousin,and in my humble opinion they're a joke of a band

[matt88]

This is one band i listened to after alot of urging from friends to hear their material. I have listened to The Bends, Ok Computer, Amnesiac and Hail To The Thief. And not to be one of those people who contribute nothing and say their shithouse but i really think they are quite shite.

[Eduardo]

Well you blame people for dissing Radiohead, when all you do is the same with U2 and Queen, two amazing bands that Radiohead doesnt even come close to. And YES, I havelistened to Radiohead records, and I think theyre boring, except for a few songs

[kj_jive]

Maybe they're "boring" in the sense that they don't slap you in the face with a catchy hook right off the bat such as a shallow U2 song like "It's a beautiful day" or something like that does.  I suppose you think jazz and classical is boring too.  Radiohead records create an atmosphere.  They create an extremely bleak, desolate soundscape.  Their music is depressing and it is slow. But it also is very effective.  If you're expecting some music that is catchy and accesible then you most likely will be unimpressed, and say that they're boring and shit.  However, they are a band unlike none other and deserve some appreciation.  No other band can create music so emotional and complex. period.

[Lord Blackadder]

i think they are O.k, but they're not my favourite. But they arent boring. I like 'Karma Police'. Great song. And Thom Yorke loves Queen, so do I, so in my book that makes him sound as a person.

[Lord Blackadder]

but U2 and Bon Jovi are great though!

[GNR_Green]

I own Pablo Honey, The Bends, OK Computer and Hail to the Thief.  Maybe it's just my taste, but I like the guitar albums (i.e. the 1st three) but be serious, Hail to the Thief is not exactly great music.  It's actually quite... how can I put this... boring!!  I'd agree that it's not 'shallow' like most Bon Jovi music, and you correctly labelled 'Beautiful Day' by U2 as shallow and bland as well, but it's not that good.  The Bends showed that guitar music could be different again, the same could be said for OK Computer, so I'd agree that they are classic albums.  The later stuff showed that it's possible to create dark, atmospheric music with computers but I just don't rate it that highly.

All in all, I rate Radiohead as being the best band around for what they do.  When you compare them to bands like U2 there will always be an argument.  But when you compare Radiohead to the current music 'scene' then there's no argument.

[Will]

I have OK Computer and I like it. Definitely not for the casual music fan but very interesting band. I love the music/ lyrics/ vocals. I didn't really like other albums I've heard though.

[kj_jive]

I own Pablo Honey, The Bends, OK Computer and Hail to the Thief.? Maybe it's just my taste, but I like the guitar albums (i.e. the 1st three) but be serious, Hail to the Thief is not exactly great music.? It's actually quite... how can I put this... boring!!? I'd agree that it's not 'shallow' like most Bon Jovi music, and you correctly labelled 'Beautiful Day' by U2 as shallow and bland as well, but it's not that good.? The Bends showed that guitar music could be different again, the same could be said for OK Computer, so I'd agree that they are classic albums.? The later stuff showed that it's possible to create dark, atmospheric music with computers but I just don't rate it that highly.

All in all, I rate Radiohead as being the best band around for what they do.? When you compare them to bands like U2 there will always be an argument.? But when you compare Radiohead to the current music 'scene' then there's no argument.

good post.  I'm glad you can appreciate at least some of what they're doing.  They have certainly evolved from their early work and alienated a good deal of fans in the process.  however i enjoy the more experimental records (Kid A, Amnesiac, Hail to the theif) more than their first three.  Hail to the theif was supposed to be their return to form though but it didn't exactly turn out the way they anticipated i guess

[GNR_Green]

I own Pablo Honey, The Bends, OK Computer and Hail to the Thief.  Maybe it's just my taste, but I like the guitar albums (i.e. the 1st three) but be serious, Hail to the Thief is not exactly great music.  It's actually quite... how can I put this... boring!!  I'd agree that it's not 'shallow' like most Bon Jovi music, and you correctly labelled 'Beautiful Day' by U2 as shallow and bland as well, but it's not that good.  The Bends showed that guitar music could be different again, the same could be said for OK Computer, so I'd agree that they are classic albums.  The later stuff showed that it's possible to create dark, atmospheric music with computers but I just don't rate it that highly.

All in all, I rate Radiohead as being the best band around for what they do.  When you compare them to bands like U2 there will always be an argument.  But when you compare Radiohead to the current music 'scene' then there's no argument.

good post.  I'm glad you can appreciate at least some of what they're doing.  They have certainly evolved from their early work and alienated a good deal of fans in the process.  however i enjoy the more experimental records (Kid A, Amnesiac, Hail to the theif) more than their first three.  Hail to the theif was supposed to be their return to form though but it didn't exactly turn out the way they anticipated i guess

I think everyone should appreciate what they're doing considering what's happened to the music industry in the last few years.  As for ...Thief, I remember that I kept hearing it would be like The Bends or whatever, but it's nothing like it!  Was the band that said that or speculation?

[kj_jive]

I own Pablo Honey, The Bends, OK Computer and Hail to the Thief.? Maybe it's just my taste, but I like the guitar albums (i.e. the 1st three) but be serious, Hail to the Thief is not exactly great music.? It's actually quite... how can I put this... boring!!? I'd agree that it's not 'shallow' like most Bon Jovi music, and you correctly labelled 'Beautiful Day' by U2 as shallow and bland as well, but it's not that good.? The Bends showed that guitar music could be different again, the same could be said for OK Computer, so I'd agree that they are classic albums.? The later stuff showed that it's possible to create dark, atmospheric music with computers but I just don't rate it that highly.

All in all, I rate Radiohead as being the best band around for what they do.? When you compare them to bands like U2 there will always be an argument.? But when you compare Radiohead to the current music 'scene' then there's no argument.

good post.? I'm glad you can appreciate at least some of what they're doing.? They have certainly evolved from their early work and alienated a good deal of fans in the process.? however i enjoy the more experimental records (Kid A, Amnesiac, Hail to the theif) more than their first three.? Hail to the theif was supposed to be their return to form though but it didn't exactly turn out the way they anticipated i guess

I think everyone should appreciate what they're doing considering what's happened to the music industry in the last few years.? As for ...Thief, I remember that I kept hearing it would be like The Bends or whatever, but it's nothing like it!? Was the band that said that or speculation?

The band said it.  I'm not about to go looking for the article though.  They also stated that Kid A was going to be experimental and that their next cd would be back to basics.  However the next cd ended up being Amnesiac which was recorded during the Kid A sessions and was more or less just a continuation.  Hail to the Theif is actually a return to form when you disect it.  Most of the songs on there are guitar based, except for a few which are mostly electronic.  take them out and you have yourself a traditional RH album.

btw...The Bends isnot one of my top RH cd's.  It's good, but its more of a collection of songs rather than an album.

[Eazy E]

I've got the Bends, OK computer, Kid A, Hail to the Thief, and the live album... I like Radiohead a lot, but I wasn't a big fan of Hail to the Thief, it has it's moments, but it's nothing special.  I think the Bends and OK Computer are easily their best albums.  I haven't heard Amnesiac in awhile, and I lost my Pablo Honey many years ago.

I REALLY like the acoustic song on the live album "True Love Waits"... I hear they're supposed to be really good live too.  They're a very good band, but certainly not better than U2.

[Tj]

I've created this thread to provide a place to voice all your collective greivences concerning Radiohead

Well Radiohead's music is all about grievances, ain't it, so that seems appropriate 

On a serious, less pig-headed note...I don't like Radiohead. To be fair, I have never listened to much of their music at all, so I can't make a value judgement on them, but I guess first impressions are important, and I must have been in some way traumatised by the first Radiohead song I listened to.

[BP]

Great post !!  GNR Green too!

I have been seeing them since they were an opening act band. ** cough Alanis Morrsette cough Giants stadium*

I discovered them early on. I love there early stuff more so & I even used 'kid a' as a sleeping aid.

but as far as live bands current & the last 5 years or so....  awesome .. just awesome live. I seen hundreds of acts & concerts & this one particular MSG show I'll never forget!  the Deep emotion can have you moshing & then in a split second, you can hear a pin drop in MSG from how the majic went.

I later found out that Axl is a fan, & RH shows were the very few spots  in years that he has been spotted prior 2002.

A couple experimental albums ??  hail to the theif that I don't care for. who cares -- I just listen to there good stuff (that they play live still).   I don't go around listening to every Pink Floyd album either for I'd kill myself, & Pink Floyd is one of my all time fave's, if not fave band.

I got the Bend's .. -BP

[kj_jive]

Just curious Bi Polar...which Pink Floyd albums would you kill yourself if you'd have to listen to?  I'm thinking maybe Division Bell (although for some of my friends that is their fav PF album).

[Ignatius]

Great for us Radiohead fans to have out little corner in HTGTH as well.

I love the band ever since I got my hands on OK Computer. Then I purchased The bends and?Pablo Honey. I bought the last three the week they came out.

As Bi-polar mentioned, this is the kind of band that makes you jump around like no other rock band live, and on the other hand, makes you get in touch with your deepest emotions as Thom's keys and sometimes painful vocals come into play.

I've seen the band live twice. Through the years I have learned to appreciate the newer albums. For me, Amnesiac is the best from three. I don't know why, but Hail to the Thief is an uncomfortable listen. Maybe is meant to be. I was expecting a return to The Bends but instead we had an album even more experiemental than the previous two. I'm anxious to see if evolution will follow anyway.

Radiohead is one of most influential bands of our time. OK computer is a master piece. From " Airbag" to " Paranoid.." " Let Down" ( My personal Favorite) " No Surprises..." the album depresses me fuck out of me, but it is when I go through lows when I need to play Ok Computer to make me feel better. I think to myself " wow, here's somebody else even more fucked than myself" it's a good therapy.

For all of you out there who've enjoyed Lanegan's album ( I have, both albums have some similarities) I highly recommend Ok Computer.? This album will pass the test of time.

As for unreleased songs, Killer cars is a great song from The Bends era. True Love Waits is amazing as well.

[BP]

Just curious Bi Polar...which Pink Floyd albums would you kill yourself if you'd have to listen to? I'm thinking maybe Division Bell (although for some of my friends that is their fav PF album).

Well I think I respect every Pink Floyd album.....   but if I had the 'ummagumma' albums (which is genius) rotating in my disk changer, then throw me into a padded room.

Ha.. I was going to say 'Saucerfull of Secrets', but now I'm listening to it for the first time in years & its quite good.   

'The Division Bell' I like a lot - Not as much as darkside or animals & such.. but its a great album. I also have friends that say its there fave album...    'The Grass is Greener ***BP Sings*** '

RH does remind of a mondern day Floyd in many respects.

-BP

[kj_jive]

Just curious Bi Polar...which Pink Floyd albums would you kill yourself if you'd have to listen to? I'm thinking maybe Division Bell (although for some of my friends that is their fav PF album).

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RH does remind of a mondern day Floyd in many respects.

-BP

Absolutely! I've drawn that connection many times while listening.  Most notably is the fact that RH is an album oriented band.  They create albums, not just songs and that is something that is extremely lacking nowadays.