Robin Finck guitar tonality

[nesquick]

I have just re-listened to some guitar solos by Robin Finck and I think that he sounds too high, as if there was a problem with his guitar tone. Same for the re-recorded version of sweet child (second part of the main guitar solo) . It's not him because his guitar playing his ok, but it's rather his guitar tonality in fact. Have you ever noticed that point?

[the dirt]

How did i get the feeling that this wasn't about robin's great tone...

[anarchy]

I have just re-listened to some guitar solos by Robin Finck and I think that he sounds too high, as if there was a problem with his guitar tone. Same for the re-recorded version of sweet child (second part of the main guitar solo) . It's not him because his guitar playing his ok, but it's rather his guitar tonality in fact. Have you ever noticed that point?

There was a point in there? Holy shit, you hid it well.

[nesquick]

what?

[darkmonth]

I have just re-listened to some guitar solos by Robin Finck and I think that he sounds too high, as if there was a problem with his guitar tone. Same for the re-recorded version of sweet child (second part of the main guitar solo) . It's not him because his guitar playing his ok, but it's rather his guitar tonality in fact. Have you ever noticed that point?

I agree... and understand what you are trying to say...

Robin's 'tone' is not to my taste.  It's not very warm, or rounded.  It sounds to me as if his guitar tone is created by amp simulation rather than Amplifiers.  I know this is not always true as he used Marshall amps on the tour.  But something about his tone is just... well, it's not my thing.  I suspect that his preamp stage is far more to do with this than anything else.

[nesquick]

I have just re-listened to some guitar solos by Robin Finck and I think that he sounds too high, as if there was a problem with his guitar tone. Same for the re-recorded version of sweet child (second part of the main guitar solo) . It's not him because his guitar playing his ok, but it's rather his guitar tonality in fact. Have you ever noticed that point?

I agree... and understand what you are trying to say...

Robin's 'tone' is not to my taste.? It's not very warm, or rounded.? It sounds to me as if his guitar tone is created by amp simulation rather than Amplifiers.? I know this is not always true as he used Marshall amps on the tour.? But something about his tone is just... well, it's not my thing.? I suspect that his preamp stage is far more to do with this than anything else.

That's what I think too. I'm not a technical specialist so I wouldn't be alble to speak about amp simulation or amplifiers, but I know how something sounds good or how it could sound better. When I hear Fortus or BH guitar tone, it sounds better.? One of the best guitar tone I have ever heard in the ZZ Top one. do you know the songs "pincussion" or "gimmie all your loving"? the guitar tone sounds killer?
listen to that : http://www.anthonysdomain.com/music/lovin.rm
That's what I call "fuckin' Rock n' Roll"

[Voodoochild]

I guess this topic should be in the Musician section, but anyways...
I like Robin's tone, don't see anything wrong with that. Bucket and Fortus tone, otherwise, sounds a lot more compressed and with delay, both sounds like amp simulation. So, I can't see your point.
I think Robin's tone is hot and dirty, in a non-sexual way. lol. 

[Budweiser Froggs]

i love robins tone.  i think it adds a different feel to the song. 
i dont think you guys are making an opinion about his tone.  just how he sounds compared to slash.

[Thorazine Shuffle]

i love robins tone.? i think it adds a different feel to the song.?
i don't think you guys are making an opinion about his tone.? just how he sounds compared to slash.

You hit the nail on the head there.? He has pretty much the same set-up as Slash/ Les Paul through jcm 800 amp.? Or 900 but same difference.? On the newer songs he might switch guitar amps but he plays what looks like a Les Paul Studio with one Humbucker.? That will give you high end.? As the neck humbucker, which he is missing on the new songs, tend to add more body.? Remember, Brian May only played through a tiny Vox amp and a homemade guitar and he achieved such great tone.? I learned long ago that tone lies in the fingers, not so much the amps and guitars.

[Mikkamakka]

i love robins tone.? i think it adds a different feel to the song.?
i don't think you guys are making an opinion about his tone.? just how he sounds compared to slash.

 I learned long ago that tone lies in the fingers, not so much the amps and guitars.

Well said. The heart and the fingers make the difference.

[grabaraxl]

his clean sound is great though. the solo he did as an intro to sweet child on the 2002 tour is great.

although he plays with the las paul/marshall just as slash, the difference can be in the effects. i also play with a les paul standard through a marshall, but must times i don't use the marshall distortion, i ran my effects pedal through the clean channel so it sounds completly different.

slash barely used effects - the wah-wah, some chorus, and probably some overdrive for solos. robin must be used to a lot of effects from the NIN days.

[MeanBone]

well, the thing is Robin is Using Valve Marshall Amps, just that makes a huge difference grabaraxl, and from what i saw he wasn't using a floorboard with effects. it's just his setup on the amp, i actually like the sound. slash's sound was different. but you have to get more specific then what brand of guitars and amps each player use to get a certain sound. the difference is in the way you use it and the models they use. and then, as someone said before, the way you play also makes a huge diference on the sound you put out.

[nesquick]

Finck is not an "elegant" player. I don't say he is a bad guitarist, he is a very good one, but he doesn't have the elegance of Slash or any other guitar hero when he plays guitar. He doesn't sound as if he put his soul in his guitar playing do you see what I mean? It's mainly a question of sound for me. He should use more distortions or just make evrything he can to sound more "rock n' roll".

[AxlFink]

I liked Finks tone and solos better than Bucketheads actually.  After watching the MSG show I realized Fink has much more to offer as a musician than Bucket.  I also realized that a lt of the Solos I liked from the recordings are actually Fink.  I thought they were Buckets.

[nesquick]

it depends of his guitar solos: for it's so easy or Mr brownstone, it's GREAT. however, he sounds too high for sweet child, the 2nd solo of november rain and the second part of paradise city.
all the Fortus guitar solos are really great. I also think Fortus has the best guitar tone and sound of all 3.

[Mikkamakka]

Finck is not an "elegant" player. I don't say he is a bad guitarist, he is a very good one, but he doesn't have the elegance of Slash or any other guitar hero when he plays guitar. He doesn't sound as if he put his soul in his guitar playing do you see what I mean? It's mainly a question of sound for me. He should use more distortions or just make evrything he can to sound more "rock n' roll".

Not to bash Finck, but he's having some serious problems with even bending. That's why he's totally out of tone sometimes.

[Thorazine Shuffle]

it depends of his guitar solos: for it's so easy or Mr brownstone, it's GREAT. however, he sounds too high for sweet child, the 2nd solo of november rain and the second part of paradise city.
all the Fortus guitar solos are really great. I also think Fortus has the best guitar tone and sound of all 3.

Fortus seems to love semi-hollow/hollow body guitars.  A perfect match for rhythm in GNR.  Kinda like when Izzy used Teles

[Stupid Head]

I have a question too. Sometimes when you hear him play solos, like The Blues and Sweet Childs solos, he sounds melodic and nice then all of a sudden you get a big blast of noise! What is that?

[Thorazine Shuffle]

I have a question too. Sometimes when you hear him play solos, like The Blues and Sweet Childs solos, he sounds melodic and nice then all of a sudden you get a big blast of noise! What is that?

The soundmen probably has a hard time with this group.  You got Axl, 3 guitar players 2 keyboard players, and a drummer in a stadium when you're not use to the songs and everyones setup.  The sudden blast should be more suddle but basically its the soundman trying to differentiate his solo from everyone else's playing.  I feel for those guys.

[Stupid Head]

Thanks for that. Its really noticeable at the end of The Blues solo at Pittsburg.