Formula One 2005 season thread

[Drew]

The F-1 HTGTH Fantasy League Championship

Gypsy Soul --- 4 Points
Jarmo --- 4 points
Pinball --- 3 points
Ignatius --- 3 points
John Daniels --- 3 points
Graciela --- 2 points
Kiki --- 2 points
Drew --- 0 points

0 points?!! I sure have some work to do in order to catch up.

[GypsySoul]

The F-1 HTGTH Fantasy League Championship

Gypsy Soul --- 4 Points
Jarmo --- 4 points
Pinball --- 3 points
Ignatius --- 3 points
John Daniels --- 3 points
Graciela --- 2 points
Kiki --- 2 points
Drew --- 0 points

0 points?!! I sure have some work to do in order to catch up.

Here you go ... you can have two of Jarmo's points!!!? ?

The F-1 HTGTH Fantasy League Championship
Gypsy Soul --- 4 Points
Pinball --- 3 points
Ignatius --- 3 points
John Daniels --- 3 points
Graciela --- 2 points
Kiki --- 2 points
Drew --- 2 points
Jarmo --- 2 points

[Drew]

Here you go ... you can have two of Jarmo's points!!!   

The F-1 HTGTH Fantasy League Championship
Gypsy Soul --- 4 Points
Pinball --- 3 points
Ignatius --- 3 points
John Daniels --- 3 points
Graciela --- 2 points
Kiki --- 2 points
Drew --- 2 points
Jarmo --- 2 points

lol..

Thanks GypsySoul. Looks like the only way I can get any points is to take them from Jarmo.

[jarmo]

FIA SENATE CLEARS MICHELIN TEAMS OF GUILT


The FIA Senate has recommended that the seven Michelin-supplied teams found guilty of bringing Formula 1 into disrepute following the US GP fiasco at Indianapolis should have their verdicts overturned.

Following an emergency meeting of the Senate in Monaco, attended by McLaren boss Ron Dennis (representing the teams) and Red Bull Racing team principal Christian Horner, on Thursday, the FIA claimed new evidence brought forward absolved the teams of any guilt.

The FIA's statement, which followed the meeting, points the finger at tyre supplier Michelin, which instructed its teams not race.

The French company claims its tyres were unsafe to use during the race after a series of failures through practice at Turn 13.

The teams argued successfully on Thursday that they were legally bound to follow this instruction.

"Having examined the new evidence? the Senate was satisfied that the teams were contractually bound to follow the instructions of their tyre supplier and that their tyre supplier had expressly prohibited them from racing at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in its licensed configuration," read the statement.

"Recognising that for both sporting and legal reasons it was impossible for the FIA to authorise a change to the circuit configuration and that both the FIA and the teams could have faced serious legal difficulties in the United States had they not observed to the letter their respective rules and contractual obligations, the Senate was of the view that having regard to this new evidence, disciplinary proceedings against the teams had ceased to be appropriate and were no longer in the interest of the sport.

The statement continued by saying all charges against the teams, which are set to appeal the verdicts in a World Council hearing on September 14, should be dropped.

"It is anticipated that this recommendation will be put to the World Motor Sport Council by means of a fax vote in the next few days," said the statement.



http://www.itv-f1.com



/jarmo

[GypsySoul]

FIA SENATE CLEARS MICHELIN TEAMS OF GUILT

"Recognising that for both sporting and legal reasons it was impossible for the FIA to authorise a change to the circuit configuration and that both the FIA and the teams could have faced serious legal difficulties in the United States had they not observed to the letter their respective rules and contractual obligations, the Senate was of the view that having regard to this new evidence, disciplinary proceedings against the teams had ceased to be appropriate and were no longer in the interest of the sport.

The statement continued by saying all charges against the teams, which are set to appeal the verdicts in a World Council hearing on September 14, should be dropped.

So if nobody is guilty of anything then who's gonna compensate the fans who were there??

[John Daniels]

FIA SENATE CLEARS MICHELIN TEAMS OF GUILT

"Recognising that for both sporting and legal reasons it was impossible for the FIA to authorise a change to the circuit configuration and that both the FIA and the teams could have faced serious legal difficulties in the United States had they not observed to the letter their respective rules and contractual obligations, the Senate was of the view that having regard to this new evidence, disciplinary proceedings against the teams had ceased to be appropriate and were no longer in the interest of the sport.

The statement continued by saying all charges against the teams, which are set to appeal the verdicts in a World Council hearing on September 14, should be dropped.

So if nobody is guilty of anything then who's gonna compensate the fans who were there??

they got the money back, otherwise it sucks.

[GypsySoul]

So if nobody is guilty of anything then who's gonna compensate the fans who were there??

they got the money back, otherwise it sucks.

Was it the venue who reimbursed the fans?? If it was the venue then I'd think they'd be looking to sue somebody to get their $$$ back and if that's the case, I wonder how/if this ruling would affect a lawsuit?

[John Daniels]

So if nobody is guilty of anything then who's gonna compensate the fans who were there??

they got the money back, otherwise it sucks.

Was it the venue who reimbursed the fans?? If it was the venue then I'd think they'd be looking to sue somebody to get their $$$ back and if that's the case, I wonder how/if this ruling would affect a lawsuit?

all I know is that the ticket money was promised to give back to the fans that were threre. Who is/was the pay man? Don't know. Perhaps the venue but there can be some compensation between venue and FIA.  Don't know the current situation of law suits, I think there were a couple of them...

[jarmo]

Michelin begin refunding Indy spectators
Saturday July 16 2005
 

Michelin have begun the process of refunding the 120,000 fans who were treated to a six-car United States Grand Prix farce at Indianapolis last month.

The French company's tyres were not safe to compete at Indianapolis, forcing seven teams to pull out of the race on the warm-up lap and provoking outrage among fans.

As part of their bid to restore the tainted reputation of Michelin and Formula One in the US, they promised to refund all ticket holders and buy another 20,000 tickets for next year's race to be handed out free of charge.

That process has begun today with Michelin hoping they have done enough to end the American backlash against them, which saw share prices plummet in the aftermath of the race.

"By working with the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, we've created a thorough and quick process to reach out to all those fans present at the United States Grand Prix and offer them the face value refund of their race day ticket," said Jim Micali, chairman and president of Michelin North America.

"In addition to the ticket refund, we will provide 20,000 tickets to the 2006 US Grand Prix at Indianapolis to dedicated fans who purchased tickets to this year's race. We hope through these gestures to encourage the further development of Formula One in the United States."

Track president Joie Chitwood, who delivered stinging criticism of the fiasco in an angry press conference just hours after the race, has applauded Michelin's actions.

He said: "Although many different parties had an influence on the race run at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway on June 19, Michelin has made a tremendous commitment to the fans of the United States Grand Prix.

"We've been working closely with Michelin to work out the details of the ticket refund process and we commend them on their commitment to a speedy and full response to the fans."

Friday's move follows the previous day's decision by world governing body the FIA to absolve the seven teams of blame following new evidence which proved they were legally unable to race after advice from Michelin.


http://www.planet-f1.com/



/jarmo

[jarmo]

My picks for the race at Hockenheim in Germany:

1. Kimi R?ikk?nen McLaren
2. Fernando Alonso Renault
3. Michael Schumacher Ferrari
4. Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
5. Jenson Button BAR
6. Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren
7. Nick Heidfeld Williams
8. Jarno Trulli Toyota


Hopefully Kimi doesn't have to change his engine now.....?




/jarmo

[GypsySoul]

My German race picks:

1. ?Raikkonen
2. ?M. Schumacher
3. ?Alonso
4. ?Button
5. ?Fisichella
6. ?R. Schumacher
7. ?Heidfeld
8. ?Montoya

[Graciela]

1. Kimi R?ikk?nen McLaren
2. Fernando Alonso Renault
3. Giancarlo Fisichella Renault ?
4. Michael Schumacher Ferrari
5. Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren
6. Jenson Button BAR
7. Mark Webber Williams
8. Nick Heidfeld Williams

[John Daniels]

1.  R?ikk?nen
2.  Alonso
3.  M. Schumacher
4.  Webber
5.  Fisichella
6.  Button
7.  Montoya
8.  Trulli

[Ignatius]

My pics (Alonso carries heavier full loads...)

1.- Fernando Alonso
2.- Kimi Raikonnen
3.- Jenson Button
4.- Michael Schumacher
5.- Fisichella
6.- Juan Pablito Montoya
7.- Mark Webber
8.- Jarno Trulli

[John Daniels]

My pics (Alonso carries heavier full loads...)

heavier than Raikkonen? has it been said so?

[Ignatius]

My pics (Alonso carries heavier full loads...)

heavier than Raikkonen? has it been said so?

Yes.? Briatore and Denis called me before the qualification to ask about whay strategy to follow?

I'm just guessing based in what I've seen today ( we are all guessing here John, don't forget that we all guess before the race - that's the purpose of this) . Fernado lost .6 seconds, he even got beat by Button? so I'm just assuming? - based on that I believe he didn't make any errors today

[Pinball Wizard]

1. Kimi Raikkonen
2. Alonso
3. Michael
4. Heidfeld
5. Button
6. Fisichella
7. Montoya
8. Trulli

[Ignatius]

Beer in one hand, sandwich in the other...

Can't wait for this race. I have a feeling this could be the best race we've gotten so far.

[Kiki]

? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1? Michael Schumacher

2? ?Kimi R?ikk?nen

3? Jenson Button

4? Fernando Alonso

5? Giancarlo Fisichella

6? Takuma Sato
? ? ? ? ? ? ?
7? Jarno Trulli? ?

8? Rubens Barrichello
? ? ? ? ? ? ?

? ? ? ? ? ? ?

[Ignatius]

The HTGTH Formula 1 Fantasy league (German Grand Prix)

Ignatius --- 2 points
Jarmo --- 1 point
Kiki --- 1 point
Gypsy--- 0 points
Graciela --- 0 points
John Daniels --- 0 points
Pinball --- 0 points

THe HTGTH Formula 1 Fantasy league Rankings

Ignatius --- 5 points
Jarmo --- 5 points
Gypsy Soul --- 4 Points
Pinball --- 3 points
John Daniels --- 3 points
Kiki --- 3 points
Graciela --- 2 points
Drew --- 0 points


Kimi....What can be said?

Maclaren's car are the quickest, but apperantly, they are not the most reliable.