Formula One 2005 season thread

[Drew]

Qualifying Results:

1.- Button
2.- Schumi
3.- Fernando
4.- Fishichella
5.-Montoya
6.-Sato
7.-Kimi
8.-Villeneuve
9.-Trully
10.- Ralf...


Ok, a surprise seeing BAR there taking the pole. And a Ferrari...

My Guess is (gonna take a huge gamble here...)

1.-Schumi
2.-Alonso
3.-Kimi
4.-Button
5.-Montoya
6.-Sato
7.-Fishichella
8:-Truly

Jarmo, Graciela, Drew...? your guess please.

I guess I'd go who's been hot and consistent. And they would be Alonso and Kimi. Not really going out on a limb, am I? 

[jarmo]

We'll add the points from your top 8 and whoever scores more points, wins. 

I think we should get one point for each right position picked.

Somebody might get two right and still get less points than the guy who picked the winner if we do it any other way...


I'll post my guess tomorrow.

Plenty of time since the race isn't on until the evening. 




/jarmo

[Ignatius]

I think we should get one point for each right position picked.

/jarmo

Cool...

Let's do that then.

[John Daniels]

I'm thinking about the list right now.. can I play along without price (as a special guest ?)..what can I say, I'm a coward and can't handle the pressure.

[jarmo]

There's no prizes except the honor.?

Everybody is welcome to play and it's just for fun.

Having a prize just makes it way more serious that it really is in my opinion.


At least that's how I see it.



1. Fernando Alonso      Renault
2. Kimi R?ikk?nen       McLaren
3. Juan Pablo Montoya   McLaren
4. Jenson Button        BAR
5. Michael Schumacher   Ferrari
6. Takuma Sato          BAR
7. Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
8. Jarno Trulli         Toyota




/jarmo

[John Daniels]

Okay. Here's my list. A little bit safety and surprise in the same package. (please don't copy? )


1. R?ikk?nen
2. M. Scumacher
3. Alonso
4. Montoya
5. Button
6. Fisichella
7. Villeneuve
8. Trulli








edit. got 10 picks, now 8 it is.

[GypsySoul]

Here's mine:

1. Alonso
2. M. Schumacher
3. Trulli
4. Button
5. Sato
6. Villeneuve
7. Raikkonen
8. R. Schumacher

[Drew]

Ok, here's my guess.

1. Alonso
2. R?ikk?nen
3. Montoya
4. Trulli
5. Villeneuve
6. Button
7. M. Schumacher
8. Fisichella

[Graciela]

Ok, here we go (and I hope I'm wrong on the first one? )

1. Schumacher
2. Alonso
3. Raikkonen
4. Montoya
5. R. Schumacher
6. Button
7. Fisichella
8. Trulli

[Ignatius]

Fernando's out?

I knew it was gonna happen sooner or later. To be fair, this will be good for the championship.

I have no doubt now Kimi's gonna win today.

[jarmo]

I have no doubt now Kimi's gonna win today.

I was sure the safety car would mess things up for McLaren. The 30 second gap just disappeared.....


I'm really surprised to see that McLaren wasn't running with heavier cars than Renault. I thought they would.

Bad luck for Renault this time around. I don't know what exactly happened to Alonso. Was it just a driving error?




/jarmo

[Ignatius]

I have no doubt now Kimi's gonna win today.

Bad luck for Renault this time around. I don't know what exactly happened to Alonso. Was it just a driving error?


/jarmo

So it seems. Sucks that we had a commercial break when Fernando's incident was happening, when we were back, they were just showing Fernando's getting out of the car. Apperantly, he barely hit the wall and that ruined the race for him. Fisichella had something with the hidraulics of his car.

Now the gap is 22 points. Still a strong lead for Fernando though. I'm looking forward next race though.

[Ignatius]

The HTGTH F-1 Fantasy game

Scoring 12/06/05

John Daniels --- 2 points
Gypsy Soul --- 1 points
Graciela --- 0 points
Drew --- 0 points
Ignatius --- 0 points
Jarmo --- 0 points

[Graciela]

What a disaster for Renault. At least Alonso's was an unforced error, the car is still doing well...

And yes, this definitely will make the championship more interesting. 

[Pinball Wizard]

Great race, specially for Rubens Barichello and Felipe Massa...Rubens did a great race, caming from the 20th position to 3rd and massa, with a shitty car got a 4th position...I'm hopping that he really go to Ferrari next year, he is a great driver and with him on ferrari, michael will not have anything as easy as he had with rubens...

This race proved one more time that Mark(eting) webber is a terrible driver, I really don't know where Frank had his head when he decided to hired him as his 1st driver...he don't desirve to drive even a jordan car, he is terrible...

But it was a great race and I can't wait to watch the next race in USA, I hope that Webber crash his car like ralph did last year

[John Daniels]

The HTGTH F-1 Fantasy game

Scoring 12/06/05

John Daniels --- 2 points
Gypsy Soul --- 1 points
Graciela --- 0 points
Drew --- 0 points
Ignatius --- 0 points
Jarmo --- 0 points

first of all Alonso sucks, I rule...


It was about a time for Alonso to have some bad luck. continual good luck can't maintain forever, that is what we got shown in the last race. Alonso said that he made a little mistake in the wrong place. I think Alonso was irritated about not getting pass Fisico eventhough he was much quicker. Montoy was getting closer.. the spanish temper got carried away and led to that little mistake.

This time Kimi won the race and now again the situation is much more interesting what comes to the F1 championchip. Kimi has said that weren't really sure how strong they would be in the Montreal and USA for sure would be better for them. I was surprised that Renault was much quicker than Mclaren in the qualifying with the same strategy..well nice to see how is it going to go in the next race.

[jarmo]

DENNIS: JPM EXCLUSION HARSH

McLaren team principal Ron Dennis believes that Juan Pablo Montoya's exclusion from the Canadian Grand Prix was too severe a penalty for ignoring red lights in the pitlane.

Montoya lost the lead of the race after pitting a lap later than his team-mate Kimi Raikkonen behind the Safety Car.

Out of track position, the Colombian scrambled back on to the track, but in his haste missed the red light which means a driver must wait before he can return to the track.

"We are here fighting for both championships and I just think that a problem with a black flag is that you are unable to protest it after the event," Dennis told ITV-F1 afterwards.

"If you do not adhere to it you are going to be in even more severely penalised and I just can't see that the crime fitted the punishment.

"It really didn't, but that's motor racing."

Montoya has had a difficult start to 2005 with his new team and looked to be heading for victory until the pitlane mix-up.

Dennis admitted that the team made a mistake by not calling Montoya in at the same time as Raikkonen, but the Colombian was not pointing fingers.

"As a team we all try so hard to be the best but nobody is perfect," he said, "and not being told to stop immediately after the Safety Car was deployed was made worse by me missing the red light which ultimately was the end of my race.

"I'm disappointed because I was so close to winning my first race for the team.

"I will quickly put all this behind me because I love Indianapolis and I'm really looking forward to racing there next week even though I will be somewhat penalised for having to qualify last."



I was surprised when I saw the black flag. I couldn't remember the last time I had seen one. Must've been years ago when somebody's car was in a bad shape so they took him out that way.



JPM USED TO "TOUGH" TREATMENT


Juan Pablo Montoya reckons his disqualification from the Canadian Grand Prix was unfair but that he is getting used to harsh treatment from the FIA.

Montoya was handed penalties in the previous two US Grands Prix.

In 2003 a collision with Rubens Barrichello that eliminated the Ferrari driver cost the Colombian a drive-through penalty while last year a late change to the Williams T-car saw Montoya disqualified.

In the Monaco Grand Prix last month, Montoya drew more heat when he ill-advisedly brake-tested Ralf Schumacher and reports suggest that the FIA has told McLaren to keep him in a tight leash.

But Montoya says he has always been singled out for punishment.

"Over the years, every time something happens, I get a big penalty... a big everything on me," he told CBS television in the US.

"It's a little bit unfair, but it's their (the stewards') decision and you have to respect it. You have to deal with it.

"Whether you like it or not, that's what it is. For some reason the FIA decided to disqualify me, they've been pretty tough on me."

Montoya said he drew encouragement from the fact that for the first time in 2005, he had the measure of his team-mate Kimi Raikkonen in Canada and that he was heading for victory before the pit stop mix-up.

"Of course, it would be nice to have the win, but I'm happy that I'm competitive," he said.

"When I resumed with the pace car I was a bit surprised because I saw there was a red and a flashing blue beside it so I kind of slowed down."

"I went to ask the team it's kind of strange if they're going to stop me that I have to stop in the pit lane, so I just continued and they (McLaren) said 'you're probably going to get a drive-through penalty'."



/jarmo

[Ignatius]

Indianapolis qualifying is today...

Remember, you have until sunday right before the race to post your "top" 8.

So far, John Daniels leads (2 points), followed by Gypsy Soul (1).

I'm anticipating one of the best F-1 races in years.?

[jarmo]

I think we'll see lots of tyre problems..... Especially with the cars using Michelin. 

Toyota had some serious problems with their tyres and Ralf Schumacher crashed. He won't be racing this weekend.




/jarmo

[John Daniels]

Renault has told that they will not race if Michelin can't support new tires for them..was it form France? Michelin has urged seven teams to not participate on the race concerning tyre problems.