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« Reply #80 on: July 12, 2007, 02:01:21 AM »

Prince is and will always be a genius.


back in 91 the record label didnt want to release his album "Diamonds And Pearls" cause it was so unlike anything that was out.

Prince secretly without Warner Bros knowing, Mailed hundreds of copies of the single "Gett Off" to radio stations everywhere.
The song was such a huge hit, Warner Bros had to rush release the Diamonds and Pearls album.

That's really cool.
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« Reply #81 on: July 12, 2007, 02:09:16 AM »

He's doing this bacause his music doesn't sell well at all anymore.
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« Reply #82 on: July 12, 2007, 03:13:45 AM »

He's doing this bacause his music doesn't sell well at all anymore.


HA

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Musicology went Platinum, His last album didnt sell very well but Prince is a genius.


2.3 million people get this paper.

Prince isn't HUGE HUGE in the UK so this will open up a brand new market for him that otherwise he wouldn't have had. What does this mean?

More sales on his back catalog, More concert tickets sold.

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« Reply #83 on: July 12, 2007, 03:59:18 AM »

George Michael said he will actually make his next album free online. He claims he has made enough money for himself and sees no reason for the record companies (who these artists despise, and rightfully so) to make more money off of them.

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« Reply #84 on: July 12, 2007, 06:20:53 AM »

I'm not a prince fan, but good for him....

This is another thing the record industry gets for over charging for so many years.... Now they just need to figure out how to stick it to ticketmaster greedy
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« Reply #85 on: July 12, 2007, 03:19:59 PM »

I'm not a prince fan, but good for him....

This is another thing the record industry gets for over charging for so many years.... Now they just need to figure out how to stick it to ticketmaster greedy

The recent interview I read with Trent from NIN pretty much said the same thing. He wanted to release his  (future) albums online for cheap. Cut the record company out, who was too stubborn to realize they were becoming a dinosaur now. The biggest mistakes record companies made was attack technology (suing kids etc) instead of embracing it. They shot themselves in the foot while alienating future consumers.

Somebody will come forward and offer tickets outside of ticketmaster I'm sure. It's only a matter of time.
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« Reply #86 on: July 12, 2007, 03:38:08 PM »

This is awesome!  I love when the retail industry guy says he'll soon be "The Artist Formerly Available in Record Stores."  What a bitch!   
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« Reply #87 on: July 12, 2007, 07:30:56 PM »

Great news.

Prince is an absolute musical heavyweight and sometimes people forget just how influential he has been over the years - and also what an amazing guitar player (and multi-instrumentalist) he is.

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« Reply #88 on: July 13, 2007, 11:32:10 AM »


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6897178.stm

Are free CDs killing music?
By Tom Geoghegan
BBC News Magazine?


Prince has sparked an outcry by giving away his new album in the Mail on Sunday. Many weekend newspapers are now sold with a CD or film enclosed. Forget downloads, are free CDs killing music?
Freebies fill the newspaper and magazine racks in such abundance it's possible to get kitted out for the summer on this week's pickings.

As well as the usual array of DVDs and CDs, there are sunglasses, flip-flops, "designer bangles" and for those looking for a change of image, a superhero Thing face mask.

The giveaway, or covermount as it is known in the trade, is now big business, but on Sunday the market experiences a fresh twist.

Nestling under cellophane wrapped around the Mail on Sunday, Prince's Planet Earth CD will become the first new studio album to be given away.

For Prince fans not seeing him in concert at the O2, where the album will also be distributed for free, paying ?1.40 for the newspaper will be the only way to get the album.

The Mail on Sunday says the deal - which earns Prince an undisclosed fee - is all about giving music to the masses and free CDs usually increase sales for the artist. But the shops are outraged and predict that music lovers will lose out.

Although covermounts have for years been a major concern to the Entertainment Retailers Association, its director general Kim Bayley says this marks a new low.

"It devalues the music and the losers will be new artists who are trying to come through who won't have any support from recording companies because established artists are chucking out their music for free.

"Consumers only have so much listening time in the week and if they receive the new album from Prince then they don't need to buy new music and will spend their money on something else."

Profits halved

Giving away something for free gives the impression it has no value, says Ms Bayley, and along with illegal downloads, they reinforce consumer expectations that music costs next to nothing.



But the free CD has been around for decades. Smash Hits gave away flexi-discs in the 1980s and modern music magazines such as NME, Mojo and The Word have long been including CD compilations with their issues.


It was recently estimated that 10% of CDs produced in the UK are covermounts. But most of these are to plug new artists and therefore have the blessing of the industry, because fledgling acts reach new audiences.
There are fears, however, that the Prince deal marks a new phase in which established artists will cut record companies and traditional retailers out of the equation.

It comes at a time when shops like HMV are feeling the pinch. Its profits have halved in a year, in a climate where CD sales are falling and prices have come down by about 50% in recent years. But it will stock the Mail on Sunday this weekend.

If this deal works for Prince - and it wouldn't for new or successful artists - then it could mean the end for music retailers reeling from the effect of internet shopping, says John Aizlewood, a music critic and broadcaster.

"People are growing up thinking music is a cheaply available thing," he says. "Downloading is a less pleasant experience than a CD but when CDs came out they said that about vinyl, partly because of the glorious cover art.

"Maybe it's the march of history that the retailers just can't stop. We have 15 and 16-year-old kids finding music is easily available and there's no yearning for something that they've never had."
But he warned that while the giveaway can stimulate interest in an artist, it can also cheapen music because the CDs often have poor quality content on them. The promise of a "history of punk" CD, for example, may turn out to be no more than some rubbish live tracks from second-rate bands.

One of the reasons why Q Magazine last year radically reduced the frequency with which it gave away free CDs was because bosses felt it was cheapening the product.

"The last thing we want is people saying 'free magazine with CD', says Q's managing director Stuart Williams.

"That's probably what happened with Smash Hits and Top of the Pops magazine. It became more about what we stuck on the front cover rather than the front cover itself. We want these CDs to be something they put in their music collection, not throw away."

Another major factor was the cost. In 1997, Q's first free CD - a high quality, best of the year - increased sales of the magazine by 325%, and the production cost was shared by the record company. But the returns have fallen since and the cost is now ?150,000, fully absorbed by the magazine.

But Mr Williams believes the Prince deal is a one-off with no consequences for anyone else.

"Prince gave up on the industry a decade ago and was walking around with 'slavery' written on his face. He's made his millions so all he cares about now is getting his music out to as many people as possible.

"He's not trying to make money out of this. If he could drop them out of a helicopter over London, he would do."

Tour versus album

The woes of the music industry have nothing to do with covermounts and everything to do with free downloads, says Mr Williams. Albums are no longer the earner they once were, he says, as demonstrated by artists like Radiohead threatening to no longer use the format.

The broader issue of the Prince deal is how the function of albums has changed, says Mark Ellen, editor of The Word magazine.

"Five years ago people toured in order to sell records and called the name of their tour after their recording, and probably lost money in order to promote and extend the life of the album.

"That balance has shifted and now people put out albums to justify going on tour and charging more to go on tour. "

As Prince might say, a sign o' the times.

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« Reply #89 on: July 13, 2007, 01:36:32 PM »


Why on earht should big musicians and record-companies, substracting coverage of the cost of the projects, expect to earn more than an average for their home-country when people starving to death some places?
Sadly, smaller artist seems to gets the hardest effect

Not sure I will check out Prince's new CD anyway tho hihi
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« Reply #90 on: July 13, 2007, 01:42:20 PM »

Actually, he had "Slave" written on his face because of a shit contract he had with Warner Bros. at the time. The music industry fucked itself in the ass and now it's lashing out at the artists and fans who are sick up putting up with their stupidity. Prince is a genius, and I will be getting Planet Earth the day it "officially" comes out here in the US.
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« Reply #91 on: July 13, 2007, 02:23:14 PM »

Prince is a great musician, but a genius, no!
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« Reply #92 on: July 13, 2007, 05:32:40 PM »

Prince is a great musician, but a genius, no!


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If Prince isn't a genius, No one could ever be called one.

U should do some research before makin such a ridiculous comment. ok
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« Reply #93 on: July 13, 2007, 11:01:56 PM »

Prince has actually been rolling without a record label since 1996.


He uses labels now for distibution only but they split all profits and he keeps the master recordings.
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« Reply #94 on: July 13, 2007, 11:11:25 PM »

Very cool of him.
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« Reply #95 on: July 14, 2007, 12:28:51 PM »

His last album was awesome.
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« Reply #96 on: July 15, 2007, 06:57:57 AM »

Picked it up this morning with my Mail On Sunday, very good. Does cost ?1.40 though (well thats wat the paper costs!)
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« Reply #97 on: July 15, 2007, 04:02:16 PM »

genius move - his last album only sold 80k copies in the UK - this way 2 million people will probably atleats give it a listen
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« Reply #98 on: July 15, 2007, 04:15:15 PM »

couldnt find a copy of the paper anywhere when i finally got round to going to the shop for my rolls at 1:30 this afternoon. ah well, not too bothered, a free album would've been nice tho.

still, well done to prince. power to the people, etc...
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« Reply #99 on: September 15, 2007, 10:58:34 PM »

Prince To Sue YouTube, eBay Over Unauthorized Content

September 14, 2007, 10:00 AM ET

Prince plans to sue YouTube and other major Web sites for unauthorized use of his music in a bid to "reclaim his art on the Internet."

"YouTube ... are clearly able (to) filter porn and pedophile material but appear to choose not to filter out the unauthorized music and film content which is core to their business success," a statement released on his behalf said.

YouTube responded by saying it was working with artists to help them manage their music on the site. "Most content owners understand that we respect copyrights, we work every day to help them manage their content, and we are developing state-of-the-art tools to let them do that even better," said YouTube chief counsel Zahavah Levine.

In addition to YouTube, Prince plans legal action against online auctioneer eBay and Pirate Bay, a site accused by Hollywood and the music industry as being a major source of music and film piracy.

It is rare for an individual artist of Prince's stature to take on popular Web sites, while some up-and-coming performers actually encourage online file sharing to create a fan base and buzz around a record.

"Prince strongly believes artists as the creators and owners of their music need to reclaim their art," the statement added.

British company Web Sheriff has been hired to help coordinate the action. "In the last couple of weeks we have directly removed approximately 2,000 Prince videos from YouTube," said Web Sheriff managing director John Giacobbi.

"The problem is that one can reduce it to zero and then the next day there will be 100 or 500 or whatever. This carries on ad nauseam at Prince's expense," he told Reuters.

He said his company had also removed around 300 items from eBay, where whole lines of pirated goods trading on Prince's name had appeared, including clocks, socks, mugs and key rings.

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