New Gn'R Guitarist Found?

[Acquiesce]

Wow, I knew that was coming. Axl doesn't anyone who would rock his little world. 

[killingvector]

Is Gary Sunshine still working at that pornography store? Get him on the horn ASAP.

[coolman78SLASH]

This is sooooo Guns N Roses drama...  The poor guy hasen't done anything bad..But the chances are smaller now, just because he was trying to end rumors, not increase them ..  I hope Axl understands this, and gives the guy a chance..

[Will]

Too bad, Ron seemed like a very nice guy. This is fucked up.

[Nicos]

Too bad, Ron seemed like a very nice guy. This is fucked up.

I fully agree with you Will.

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[Ali]

Too bad, Ron seemed like a very nice guy. This is fucked up.

I also echo what Will said.  Hopefully, Merck and/or Axl will calm down and realize that Ron Thal was not trying to get publicity for himself, and he should not be held accountable for the media taking what he said and running with it.

If Ron is ruled as the guitarist by Axl and/or Merck because of this, I think that would be pathetic and petty.  He should be considered as a guitarist for GN'R based on his playing ability and whether or not he would be a good fit in the band, not by something like this where he had no bad intentions.

Ali

[Voodoochild]

Too bad, Ron seemed like a very nice guy. This is fucked up.

I also echo what Will said.? Hopefully, Merck and/or Axl will calm down and realize that Ron Thal was not trying to get publicity for himself, and he should not be held accountable for the media taking what he said and running with it.

If Ron is ruled as the guitarist by Axl and/or Merck because of this, I think that would be pathetic and petty.? He should be considered as a guitarist for GN'R based on his playing ability and whether or not he would be a good fit in the band, not by something like this where he had no bad intentions.

Ali

Agreed. It would be childish to fuck up all the negotiatons just 'cause Ron said something about it in his site. At least, he's good with his fans and tell what's going on in his camp, unlike GNR.
It's sad and I would be pretty pissed if all they will really end the talks with Ron.

[nesquick]

Ron Thal is a very cool guy. do you think it's really over to see him in GN'R?

[Will]

Well, if they asked him to put an official "retraction" on his site, yeah, I think it's pretty much it. That's too bad though...

[Johnnyblood]

Good lord the GNR people can be so uptight. If you've got the right guy then lock him up... don't make almighty secrecy more important than having the right person.

[Sterlingdog]

I was told I might be recording guitar parts in early September. Told the boss at the college I teach at that we might have to get a sub when the semester starts, told him why, all was cool. Didn't go blabbin' about it. Checked in with the camp weekly lettin' know I was ready when they were, no action for 2 months.

Maybe they had already decided against using him and hadn't told him yet.? If they didn't talk to him for 2 months, maybe they were talking to someone else.

[killingvector]

Maybe they were auditioning others. It is clearly an unattractive publicity for one job candidate to claim he was offered the gig, when negotiations and auditioning with other players are still underway. I understand why Ron did it, but he clearly wasn't clear to everyone that he was only being considered. he threw around statements that the was told to lay down some tracks in september, he was replacing buckethead...blah blah blah. It has become clear that he was just one of several being looked at as a sessionist. Perhaps to strip off bucket's parts from the album, who knows.

[Ali]

I was told I might be recording guitar parts in early September. Told the boss at the college I teach at that we might have to get a sub when the semester starts, told him why, all was cool. Didn't go blabbin' about it. Checked in with the camp weekly lettin' know I was ready when they were, no action for 2 months.

Maybe they had already decided against using him and hadn't told him yet.? If they didn't talk to him for 2 months, maybe they were talking to someone else.

That's a good point, and it's entirely possible. 

Another thing, I think it is rude an insulting to come back and say Ron was being considered as "session" guitarist and that he was asked to "audition", when he was asked to "replace Buckethead."  Ron wouldn't have any reason to lie about that.

Ali

[killingvector]

maybe it was a clarification; Gnr has corporate stye of communication , namely one lackey makes promises that the CEO hears about much later and has to renege.

I still claim that we won't hear about a new guitarist until close to the release announemnet or tour just because they are holding onto hope that bucket will come back. I believe this is all insurance if he doesnt' return.

[Sterlingdog]

Another thing, I think it is rude an insulting to come back and say Ron was being considered as "session" guitarist and that he was asked to "audition", when he was asked to "replace Buckethead."? Ron wouldn't have any reason to lie about that.

Ali

They were probably trying to be careful about what they said then, because they knew there was good chance it would be repeated. 

[ppbebe]

Ditto to Sterlingdog.

We don?t know the real reason why they changed the offer from "replacing" to "session".
And they haven?t flatly rejected him yet.

[badintentions]

i think that by far the most disturbing thing out of all of this is that they are still recording. i thought that we were led to believe by tommy that the album was done and that it was being mastered soon. i'm not sure if you guys realize this but if buckethead's parts are being redone or even the simple fact that recording is still being done period, that means we aren't going to see the album for quite sometime. you can forget about early next year.

[Will]

And they haven?t flatly rejected him yet.

Upon request of GnR management, here's the retraction: "I'm NOT in GnR, I never was, I was being considered."

That's a "polite" way to say it, though.

[takeshi]

i think that by far the most disturbing thing out of all of this is that they are still recording. i thought that we were led to believe by tommy that the album was done and that it was being mastered soon. i'm not sure if you guys realize this but if buckethead's parts are being redone or even the simple fact that recording is still being done period, that means we aren't going to see the album for quite sometime. you can forget about early next year.

From his statement it would seem that they had plans to record in september.  The fact that they didn't bring him in for this would indicate that they either didn't need to record anything or they brought someone else in to do the work.

In spite of the positive words from Dizzy and Tommy we're back in the situation of knowing nothing good and suspecting the worst on the current status of the album.

[Caligula13]

what's all tha fuss about?
Bucket "The Man" Head will return...