Slash trashed in RollingStone (Micheal Moore cover)

[Booker Floyd]

my only problem on contraband is suckertrain blues, he couldve really did something amazing there but just kinda half assed it, i dont care which song of GNR's it was slash always made whatever solo he did awesome and stand out, i listen to STB and think, Cmon SLash!

 

I love that solo...it sounds like a bomb exploding.  I especially like how it begins during Scotts wailing.  Its a good example of Slash trying something relatively new and succeeding.

[Rhythm-n-Booze]

I love Contraband, but I do agree maybe Slash needs to just take a little more time. I think thats his main problem. The way he is, he just wants to make an album and put it out there and hope for the best. I believe he did say in some interviews that some of the solos were first takes, etc. He didn't spend time on them, in my opinion. If he did, and worked on how to make them sound better, and even make them longer...I think the album would be 10x better. Except for You Got No Right....i think that song is perfect the way it is 

[D]

im not sayin it isnt good but this is Slash guys!

that solo is better than any solo that most bands could do now but i hold Slash to a very high standard the same way some of u hate silk worms and oh my god

we know slash's ability and the solo's are good dont get me wrong but not the best slash can do, i guess thats because they went for more spontaneous stylings instead of polished and focused.

Prince compares a guitar solo or any kind of solo to making love, and he talks about  building it up to the climax, on contraband sometimes it builds but doesnt quite go that extra mile that we are use to slash goin.

I understand its a different style and a great solo isnt about how many notes u play etc etc but on suckertrain blues i guess im not hearin what u all are hearin to me the guitar isnt up high enough in the mix or something.

[the dirt]

Well maybe he thought the rest of contraband was better than the rest of the new alter bridge album.

Maybe he would have given contraband a 5/5 review if the guitar work was up to the task.

Maybe it was different writer??

True/
I was under the assumption that it was the same writer for some reason...

[darkmonth]

slash's solos and general guitar parts make me happy he's not working with Axl anymore... talentless piece of shit IMHO

Rodney you dipstick

[Fretzo]

True/
I was under the assumption that it was the same writer for some reason...

When I started this thread I should have mentioned that:
David Fricke reviewed Contraband in RS 951
Kirk Miller reviewed Alter bridge in RS 957

But don't read too much into who the reviewer is because to maintain credibility RollingStone mentions in every CD review section that Ratings are supervised by the editors of RollingStone

[younggunner]

I dont want to make this an Axl vs Slash threads at all...but to get my point acroos Ill try to give you an example of Slashs guitar playing, in relation to Axl....

Ok, so many of you say, Slashs work is not as good as old GNr or what hes capable but then say hes a lot better than the crap thats out there.

Would you say the same for Axl? Would you say CD as an album or a particular song is not what we thought it would be{as good if not better than any old GNR classic} but its a lot better than the crap is out there and let him get away with that? GNR name or not, you would say what the hell, all this talk and hype and theres no bang.....and you would then proceed to all the Axl is washed up, he needs the old band, etc threads....

My point is we hold Axl and new gnr up to a certain standard and it seems as if VR gets a pass because "they are doing a simple record", they are a new band""give them time" etc....Even if it wasnt under the GNR name, I still would be expecting what Im expecting from CD....

And if VR want to do simple records...fine...thats their right and choice. Absolutely...but at the same time we dont need to hear them hype it up like they do or grant them praise simply because of what they ONCE did...

[tomass74]

I think his work on CB was pretty good, compared to what he has done 1995-2003 (I didn't like his stuff post-GN'R). But IMO it's still very far to what he did/could do in his GN'R days. Honestly I think the guitar solos are what make CB pretty good, even though I'm not a big fan of the vocals/lyrics.

"Somebody raped my tapeworm abortion
come on motherfuckers and deliver the cow"

How can you not love those lyrics? they're so off the wall and free. Much more edgy than any other rock band out there right now

I think those lyrics are awesome. 

[tomass74]

I think Contraband is great. But if you ask me the biggest thing missing is Slash. IMO Scott is the one who really makes the album work. The guys tried too hard not to sound like Guns or STP. I think next album they should just play what they feel and go more twards the hard rock, blues rock, classic rock thing and let Slash go nuts. The Snakepit albums could have been great if they had a singer like Scott.

[badgirl]

I think his work on CB was pretty good, compared to what he has done 1995-2003 (I didn't like his stuff post-GN'R). But IMO it's still very far to what he did/could do in his GN'R days. Honestly I think the guitar solos are what make CB pretty good, even though I'm not a big fan of the vocals/lyrics.

"Somebody raped my tapeworm abortion
come on motherfuckers and deliver the cow"

How can you not love those lyrics? they're so off the wall and free. Much more edgy than any other rock band out there right now

I think those lyrics are awesome. 

yup, totally agree. they are a little out there, but not all lyrics should be "this is how i feel at this very moment and this is why".

[Will]

Sorry, they're just not my cup of tea. I don't relate to them at all. This is just my opinion, to each his own!

[RichardNixon]

I think his work on CB was pretty good, compared to what he has done 1995-2003 (I didn't like his stuff post-GN'R). But IMO it's still very far to what he did/could do in his GN'R days. Honestly I think the guitar solos are what make CB pretty good, even though I'm not a big fan of the vocals/lyrics.

"Somebody raped my tapeworm abortion
come on motherfuckers and deliver the cow"

How can you not love those lyrics? they're so off the wall and free. Much more edgy than any other rock band out there right now

What song is that from?

[tomass74]

I think his work on CB was pretty good, compared to what he has done 1995-2003 (I didn't like his stuff post-GN'R). But IMO it's still very far to what he did/could do in his GN'R days. Honestly I think the guitar solos are what make CB pretty good, even though I'm not a big fan of the vocals/lyrics.

"Somebody raped my tapeworm abortion
come on motherfuckers and deliver the cow"

How can you not love those lyrics? they're so off the wall and free. Much more edgy than any other rock band out there right now

What song is that from?

Suckertrain Blues man!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mikkamakka]

The guys tried too hard not to sound like Guns or STP. I think next album they should just play what they feel and go more twards the hard rock, blues rock, classic rock thing and let Slash go nuts. The Snakepit albums could have been great if they had a singer like Scott.

I agree. I have 2 problems with Contraband: Slash's guitar work is not as good as it used to be (including the Snakepit albums) and the Contraband songs are too homogenic...I want to mean there isn't too much different styles of music, although the guys can play great 'hard rock, blues rock, classic rock' etc. I hope they'll show their real talent on the next album.

PS: IMO the Snakepit records's guitar work beats everything GN'R has ever done except of AFD.

[jarmo]

PS: IMO the Snakepit records's guitar work beats everything GN'R has ever done except of AFD.

Did you skip the Use Your Illusion albums? 

Maybe you don't like great guitar melodies such as the one that can found on Estranged? 



/jarmo

[Mikkamakka]

PS: IMO the Snakepit records's guitar work beats everything GN'R has ever done except of AFD.

Did you skip the Use Your Illusion albums??

Maybe you don't like great guitar melodies such as the one that can found on Estranged??



/jarmo

I meant albums. UYI has some brilliant guitar work (my favourites are Estranged, NR, Locomotive, Bad Apples, Coma, Perfect Crime, Garden of Eden and The Garden), but in overall I prefer the guitars on the Snakepit albums. So they don't beat every songs, but IMO they beat UYI I and UYI II as a whole.

[matt88]

The only reason the guitar on Contraband isn't as good as his previous work is i think he rushed himself abit. But i love the guitar on contraband. Especially the YGNR solo..thats long as any of his previous stuff and it kicks ass.

[MeanBone]

i didn't say slash couldn't play. i just said he isn't playing all that in VR. he was better in GNr and snakepit. i rather play snakepit than VR. the solos are better and so are the riffs. and no need to argue he was the king in GN'R. everyone knows that. i just think he lost something with this band.

[mikegiuliana]

i didn't say slash couldn't play. i just said he isn't playing all that in VR. he was better in GNr and snakepit. i rather play snakepit than VR. the solos are better and so are the riffs. and no need to argue he was the king in GN'R. everyone knows that. i just think he lost something with this band.

That's fine, but you had said this
slash's solos and general guitar parts make me happy he's not working with Axl anymore... talentless piece of shit IMHO

[PhillyRiot]

I think the guitar solo in Slither is the best I've heard since UYI.