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Review for new Alter Bridge (3/4 Creed) album
One Day Remains
Originally released: 2004
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You can't kill Creed, even if you try. Anyone hoping that the departure of Scott Stapp would end an era of evangelical grunge would be advised to skip the debut from Alter Bridge, a.k.a. three-fourths of Creed with a new singer. New frontman Myles Kennedy is a better singer than his one-note predecessor -- his upper-octave voice lands him capably between Chris Cornell and Robert Plant -- but he's just as prone to hokey religious imagery. There's already talk of an "angel" and a "crown of thorns" on the opening track, "Find the Real," and it's not an isolated theme here. On the other hand, guitarist Mark Tremonti just shreds. His piercing solos on "One Day Remains" and "Metalingus" are positively Slash-like and a hell of a lot better than anything on the Velvet Revolver record. Maybe there's some hope for being reborn after all.
KIRK MILLER
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The album only got a 2 out of 5 star review
Contraband received a 4 out of 5 star review
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Quote from: Fretzo on September 19, 2004, 06:54:08 PM
Review for new Alter Bridge (3/4 Creed) album
One Day Remains
Originally released: 2004
Wind-Up Records
You can't kill Creed, even if you try. Anyone hoping that the departure of Scott Stapp would end an era of evangelical grunge would be advised to skip the debut from Alter Bridge, a.k.a. three-fourths of Creed with a new singer. New frontman Myles Kennedy is a better singer than his one-note predecessor -- his upper-octave voice lands him capably between Chris Cornell and Robert Plant -- but he's just as prone to hokey religious imagery. There's already talk of an "angel" and a "crown of thorns" on the opening track, "Find the Real," and it's not an isolated theme here. On the other hand, guitarist Mark Tremonti just shreds. His piercing solos on "One Day Remains" and "Metalingus" are positively Slash-like and a hell of a lot better than anything on the Velvet Revolver record. Maybe there's some hope for being reborn after all.
KIRK MILLER
(Posted Sep 16, 2004)
The album only got a 2 out of 5 star review
Contraband received a 4 out of 5 star review
Bah RS don't know shit - but slash didn't excel on Contraband so i wouldn't say they are too far off the mark, as for that alter bridge album - religious grunge? May have to add that to my Creed collection.....
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slash had his moments on Contraband but a few of the riffs were a bit familiar if you catch my drift.
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Quote from: Fretzo on September 19, 2004, 06:54:08 PM
Review for new Alter Bridge (3/4 Creed) album
KIRK MILLER
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The album only got a 2 out of 5 star review
Contraband received a 4 out of 5 star review
Well maybe he thought the rest of contraband was better than the rest of the new alter bridge album.
Maybe he would have given contraband a 5/5 review if the guitar work was up to the task.
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that cd on Open Your Eyes is fuckin amazing! i must say its better than most of contrabands solo's.
I hate to say it but SLash didnt expand his talents on that record at all.
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Quote from: the dirt on September 19, 2004, 10:36:24 PM
Well maybe he thought the rest of contraband was better than the rest of the new alter bridge album.
Maybe he would have given contraband a 5/5 review if the guitar work was up to the task.
Maybe it was different writer?
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Open Your Eyes is another bland modern rock song, but I have to say, I was absolutely blown away by the solo. It reminded me of Eddie Van Halen...I was like, "whoa, is that SHRED that I hear?" Very cool to hear a guitar solo like that in a modern rock song. Slash has a few good solos on Contraband, but nothing that really stuck out. The album is more about songwriting than instrumental virtuosity, I thought. That makes sense when you consider that it's really closer in sound to Stone Temple Pilots than Guns N' Roses, and STP as a grunge band weren't really into solos.
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I dunno,
I miss longer solos on Contraband, but the ones he does rip are cool. Like the intro of the solo for you got no right, and the solo on Dirty Little Thing, Headspace's also got a cool solo in it, Fall To Pieces obviously, and a brilliant moving solo in Loving The Alien.
Come to think of it Slash has plenty of brilliant moments in Contraband. The thing is, he chose to say a lot more with fewer notes.
And believe me, that's a guy that can say more with one note than Creed-man, or Chicken-Man can with a whole shred-fest.
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Agreed!
People are forgetting, Slash doesn't play solo's for the sake of it...
I love all the guitar work on Contraband and have no problem with the shortness or simplicity of the solos.
Man, the second solo part on Big Machine has some superbly chosen notes. It's ace.
As is all of it.
Man, people suck.
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There's nothing wrong with someone not liking the album, I hate creed myself, but that's me..
Onto contraband itself, I agree with what More Black has to say..
I honestly think the album rocks, I love the solos, I can admitt they're not as big as his gnr days, but what can ever be like those? Also this is a band with a different lead singer, it's anew era for these guys, maybe they didn't want huge guitar parts.. It's possible, we know slash could have made eaxch solo a minute long, just listen to Aint' life grand, the guitar parts are awesome, but the band was SLASH'S...
I would like a few longer solos, fuck I'd even love a guitar album from slash one day.. We know he can play awesom on the guitar, he's always done great solos on guest spots. during the old gun's tour, etc..
It's a group effort and no one is really the center of attention, I know they have ftps, but it was something they all went through..
At the end of the day IU don't care about reviews, all that matters is if I like the album, and I love contraband..
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I honestly think the album rocks, I love the solos, I can admitt they're not as big as his gnr days, but what can ever be like those?
Why couldnt it be? Afterall, the guys who made the solos for GNr are the guys in VR. I can see your point if your talking about another band that lacks solos and say, "yea they are not as big as gnr days, but when ever be like those"...that i can see...but if the guys that were in gnr are in the band, why cant they do work similar to that?
And it doesnt mean they have to push for the GNR sound. Why cant they have thier own sound and still go all out?
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I honestly think the album rocks, I love the solos, I can admitt they're not as big as his gnr days, but what can ever be like those?
Why couldnt it be? Afterall, the guys who made the solos for GNr are the guys in VR. I can see your point if your talking about another band that lacks solos and say, "yea they are not as big as gnr days, but when ever be like those"...that i can see...but if the guys that were in gnr are in the band, why cant they do work similar to that?
And it doesnt mean they have to push for the GNR sound. Why cant they have thier own sound and still go all out?
I think they're going all out, maybe it's different with a new lead singer? I can't give the answers, the talent is there.. Maybe they will upgrade with the new album, maybe they just wanted shorter rockers with good solos but not as long, I can't tell you.. I'm only guessing like most people do..
I personally love the album, it's got the hard rock songs, ballads, etc, that's the type of music I like..
I'll have to see when they make a new album.. Maybe contraband is exactly what THEY wanted.. To someone that loved gnr might seems this as less, to other it might seem very good..?
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slash's solos and general guitar parts make me happy he's not working with Axl anymore... talentless piece of shit IMHO
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Quote from: MeanBone on September 20, 2004, 12:14:10 PM
slash's solos and general guitar parts make me happy he's not working with Axl anymore... talentless piece of shit IMHO
Yeah he's talentless, just listen to gnr albums
You could be the biggest axl fan in the world, but those guns songs wouldn't sound the same without those guitar parts..
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I think his work on CB was pretty good, compared to what he has done 1995-2003 (I didn't like his stuff post-GN'R). But IMO it's still very far to what he did/could do in his GN'R days. Honestly I think the guitar solos are what make CB pretty good, even though I'm not a big fan of the vocals/lyrics.
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Slash's playing on Snakepit was phenomenal on some of the songs. The banda and the singers were a different story
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Quote from: Will on September 20, 2004, 12:33:32 PM
I think his work on CB was pretty good, compared to what he has done 1995-2003 (I didn't like his stuff post-GN'R). But IMO it's still very far to what he did/could do in his GN'R days. Honestly I think the guitar solos are what make CB pretty good, even though I'm not a big fan of the vocals/lyrics.
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How can you not love those lyrics? they're so off the wall and free. Much more edgy than any other rock band out there right now
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my only problem on contraband is suckertrain blues, he couldve really did something amazing there but just kinda half assed it, i dont care which song of GNR's it was slash always made whatever solo he did awesome and stand out, i listen to STB and think, Cmon SLash!
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Suckertrain Blues is my favourite off the album, great riff and cool solo
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Quote from: D on September 20, 2004, 01:49:24 PM
my only problem on contraband is suckertrain blues, he couldve really did something amazing there but just kinda half assed it, i dont care which song of GNR's it was slash always made whatever solo he did awesome and stand out, i listen to STB and think, Cmon SLash!
But again it's the song that matters, and the song rocks. As a whole, it didn't need a total shred solo. He's telling you something with all the bends and whammy bar stuff, very lyrical in fact. And it compliments the increasing tension in the track.
If you want Slash shred just put on Dirty Little Thing
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