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« Reply #240 on: September 23, 2004, 05:02:55 PM »

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Appetite was great,but if the Illusions would had been 2 more AFD's,than GNR would not be the legend that it is today

Imagine, name the one album gnr is know for and gets all the praise? Every big countdown always has afd, try and find the illusions.. Those albums were alot softer, they attracted more women with those monster songs

level headed..
1 million for don't cry
2 million for November rain
3.5 million for estranged

Gnr went somewhat pussy and big budget during the illusions..

The reason for AFD's bigger popularity is simple:It can be understood by any headbanging moron. The Illusions are far more subtile and intellectual.

I'm truly sorry for all the GNR fans that don't understand the Illusions and think Guns went pussy with them.

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« Reply #241 on: September 23, 2004, 05:07:33 PM »

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Appetite was great,but if the Illusions would had been 2 more AFD's,than GNR would not be the legend that it is today

Imagine, name the one album gnr is know for and gets all the praise? Every big countdown always has afd, try and find the illusions.. Those albums were alot softer, they attracted more women with those monster songs

level headed..
1 million for don't cry
2 million for November rain
3.5 million for estranged

Gnr went somewhat pussy and big budget during the illusions..

The reason for AFD's bigger popularity is simple:It can be understood by any headbanging moron. The Illusions are far more subtile and intellectual.

I'm truly sorry for all the GNR fans that don't understand the Illusions and think Guns went pussy with them.



lets see keyboards,bongos, pianos, harmonicas, etc,, .. I just think huge ego self indulgent songs weren't what gnr was about.. They went from wild to tamed.. Same reason I don't like the blues n maddy, very self soft and selfish tunes.. I like the illusions, I just don't think change always means better. Alot of gnr fans say this NOW, it wasn't the case then
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« Reply #242 on: September 23, 2004, 05:15:16 PM »

You're probably a Nirvana fan  Smiley
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« Reply #243 on: September 23, 2004, 05:21:53 PM »

You're probably a Nirvana fan? Smiley

If having nevermind makes you a nirvana fan? Having a preference in albums doesn't mean someone is wrong. I think nirvana is very overrated for the record.
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« Reply #244 on: September 23, 2004, 05:22:57 PM »

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Appetite was great,but if the Illusions would had been 2 more AFD's,than GNR would not be the legend that it is today

Imagine, name the one album gnr is know for and gets all the praise? Every big countdown always has afd, try and find the illusions.. Those albums were alot softer, they attracted more women with those monster songs

level headed..
1 million for don't cry
2 million for November rain
3.5 million for estranged

Gnr went somewhat pussy and big budget during the illusions..

The reason for AFD's bigger popularity is simple:It can be understood by any headbanging moron. The Illusions are far more subtile and intellectual.

I'm truly sorry for all the GNR fans that don't understand the Illusions and think Guns went pussy with them.



Other people think that UYI's popularity is simple: they became a pop rock band. They add that AFD are far more subtle and intellectual and honest. I really love the UYIs, but in the past 2-3 years I've hardly ever listened it.
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« Reply #245 on: September 23, 2004, 05:36:59 PM »

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Appetite was great,but if the Illusions would had been 2 more AFD's,than GNR would not be the legend that it is today

Imagine, name the one album gnr is know for and gets all the praise? Every big countdown always has afd, try and find the illusions.. Those albums were alot softer, they attracted more women with those monster songs

level headed..
1 million for don't cry
2 million for November rain
3.5 million for estranged

Gnr went somewhat pussy and big budget during the illusions..

The reason for AFD's bigger popularity is simple:It can be understood by any headbanging moron. The Illusions are far more subtile and intellectual.

I'm truly sorry for all the GNR fans that don't understand the Illusions and think Guns went pussy with them.



Other people think that UYI's popularity is simple: they became a pop rock band. They add that AFD are far more subtle and intellectual and honest. I really love the UYIs, but in the past 2-3 years I've hardly ever listened it.

I can agree with what you're saying., Sorry if I came off a little crazy, the waiting to hear the album is driving me mad,... Instead of just listening to music it has become this think-a-thon about everything in the past..
All I ever wanted was just one album, I have been waiting since the illusions  crying
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« Reply #246 on: September 23, 2004, 05:41:15 PM »

i love the illusions and i love appetite, whats with the u cant love both styles of GNR?


how did GNR go pussy when axl wrote NR before he moved to LA and dont cry was the first song ever wrote in GNR?

GNR are a multi skilled beast

if they had made afd over and over they would be ACDC a great band but ACDC arent on GNR's level

Diversity is what seperated GNR from the other bands, the fact they could kick your ass and touch your heart and soul at the same time, something thats very rarely been achieved in? music.

In GNR u get Coma,WTTJ,PC? without Axl u get serial killer,and the contraband rockers

with SLash you get estranged and November rain, without slash you get maddy and the blues

which one comes closer to duplicating success?

thats a rhetorical question no one has to answer that!
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« Reply #247 on: September 23, 2004, 05:43:21 PM »

i love the illusions and i love appetite, whats with the u cant love both styles of GNR?


how did GNR go pussy when axl wrote NR before he moved to LA and dont cry was the first song ever wrote in GNR?

GNR are a multi skilled beast

if they had made afd over and over they would be ACDC a great band but ACDC arent on GNR's level

Diversity is what seperated GNR from the other bands, the fact they could kick your ass and touch your heart and soul at the same time, something thats very rarely been achieved in? music.

In GNR u get Coma? without Axl u get serial killer

with SLash you get estranged and November rain, without slash you get maddy and the blues

which one comes closer to duplicating success?

thats a retorical question no one has to answer that!

Well said  yes
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« Reply #248 on: September 23, 2004, 05:44:17 PM »

I understand d, I was only saying I prefer hard rocking songs like afd, but I do like the illusions, gnr has always been my favorite band..,...

I just never thought we'd be without new music for so long.. Cry
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« Reply #249 on: September 23, 2004, 06:40:25 PM »

come on, the Illusion albums were great (especiallu use 2 for me because it was my first gn'r album). I absolutely love long epic songs.
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« Reply #250 on: September 23, 2004, 06:50:07 PM »

with SLash you get estranged and November rain, without slash you get maddy and the blues

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With Slash, you get great songs that are released and available for your listening pleasure.

Without Slash, you get crappy bootleg recordings of songs that could be great, but may never see the light of day, and may sound completely different if they do.

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which one comes closer to duplicating success?

Slash's Contraband rockers, because they actually got released.? Meanwhile, Axl's beautiful songs collect dust on the shelf, meaningless to the entire world, save for the few who have heard subpar bootleg recordings.? Great songs can't duplicate shit if they're not released.

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thats a rhetorical question no one has to answer that!

You're absolutely right, because anyone who gives it any thought will reach the same conclusion I reached above.
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« Reply #251 on: September 23, 2004, 09:27:18 PM »

So what happens, Dizzy, when the album drops? Everyone of your arguments above will become obsolete. Wink
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« Reply #252 on: September 23, 2004, 09:38:14 PM »

with SLash you get estranged and November rain, without slash you get maddy and the blues

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With Slash, you get great songs that are released and available for your listening pleasure.

Without Slash, you get crappy bootleg recordings of songs that could be great, but may never see the light of day, and may sound completely different if they do.

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which one comes closer to duplicating success?

Slash's Contraband rockers, because they actually got released.? Meanwhile, Axl's beautiful songs collect dust on the shelf, meaningless to the entire world, save for the few who have heard subpar bootleg recordings.? Great songs can't duplicate shit if they're not released.

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thats a rhetorical question no one has to answer that!

You're absolutely right, because anyone who gives it any thought will reach the same conclusion I reached above.

Dizzy the album will come out, the thing is slash and vr just half assed the album while Axl is taking his time by making three albums at once.
You really think the album will never come out?
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« Reply #253 on: September 23, 2004, 09:46:28 PM »

So what happens, Dizzy, when the album drops?

If Axl releases an album, then you can balk all you wish about who's more successful.? Until then, he's accomplished nothing.
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« Reply #254 on: September 23, 2004, 09:56:14 PM »

If Axl releases an album, then you can balk all you wish about who's more successful.? Until then, he's accomplished nothing.

That was not the question, do you believe the album will come out, lets say in 2005?
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« Reply #255 on: September 23, 2004, 09:58:18 PM »

This has gotten out of hand....love you who love...hate who you hate! I mean Duffs opinion doesnt have to effect yours, but that doesn't mean our opinion should effect his, nor should we call him wrong, or him call us wrong....

Cant we all just get along lol
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« Reply #256 on: September 23, 2004, 10:14:14 PM »

Hey All,
Been awhile since I have posted here, personal problems kept me away. Some of you may remember me and some may not. Things really haven't changed around since I have been gone, not sure if that is good or bad. I don't really have anything to add, I just think it is sad that this thread has turned into what every thread turns into. Which band is better new or old? In my opinion that is a question that you simply can not answer until the new band has put out an album. You can't base an opinion on four or five songs, and as Dizzy pointed out one was the only official release. Lets just drop that line of discussion. By the way Ms Duff we share the same name my name is Erin too.  Cheesy
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« Reply #257 on: September 23, 2004, 10:16:50 PM »

This has gotten out of hand....love you who love...hate who you hate! I mean Duffs opinion doesnt have to effect yours, but that doesn't mean our opinion should effect his, nor should we call him wrong, or him call us wrong....

Cant we all just get along lol
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I think Duff is wrong but well he is in titled to his opinion  just as I am to mine ,so it's all good. peace


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« Reply #258 on: September 24, 2004, 07:44:31 AM »

with SLash you get estranged and November rain, without slash you get maddy and the blues

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With Slash, you get great songs that are released and available for your listening pleasure.

Without Slash, you get crappy bootleg recordings of songs that could be great, but may never see the light of day, and may sound completely different if they do.

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which one comes closer to duplicating success?

Slash's Contraband rockers, because they actually got released.? Meanwhile, Axl's beautiful songs collect dust on the shelf, meaningless to the entire world, save for the few who have heard subpar bootleg recordings.? Great songs can't duplicate shit if they're not released.

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thats a rhetorical question no one has to answer that!

You're absolutely right, because anyone who gives it any thought will reach the same conclusion I reached above.

Dizzy the album will come out, the thing is slash and vr just half assed the album while Axl is taking his time by making three albums at once.
You really think the album will never come out?

How do you know they half assed anything, you have no clue what they wanted as a group.. Just because the album for axl takes longer and longer doesn't mean it's getting better n better.. I think contraband rocks and that's all that matters... They played what I like, hard rockers, and ballads..

As for the album, there is no true indication it is coming out besides some same old banter from dizzy n tommy.. They can say whatever, but until there's an actual date, single/video then it's not.. Sure it will eventually come out, and I will also one day be old, these thing are inevitable
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« Reply #259 on: September 24, 2004, 11:34:15 AM »

And even IF (if) Chin Demo comes out, and it does well...
what then? another album in another 12 years?
I honesly believe after the whole Chin Demo thing ends that will be it.

VR on the other hand could potentially release a new album every year, they're not short on creativity or the desire to get out there and play.
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