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« on: September 17, 2004, 02:19:50 PM »

will anyone here be disappointed if there are only 12 songs on Chinese Democracy?

We've all heard 16 to 18 etc etc, and Im the type that loves high volume,high diversity.

So, I know as long as we get it, some of you probably dont care if its 8 songs as long as it's good, but once we buy it and get it in the car will u be maybe just a tad bit disappointed if it only has 12 tracks?
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2004, 02:28:14 PM »

Yes, I would be disappointed....Im expecting at least 15 songs..

UYI I had 16
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2004, 02:43:44 PM »

I would not be dissapointed if it has one track... depends on how good that one is. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2004, 02:50:26 PM »

I want more than an hour new music without covers, or I'll be disappointed. And I want another great album in 2 years.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2004, 02:58:27 PM »

Maybe the twelve songs wil be 7-10 minutes long each?
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2004, 03:03:18 PM »

I dunno - if they were fuckin awesome then i wouldn't care -it could be the songs will be very long and space will be limited

I would be dissapointed if there was less than 75 mins worth on the cd
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2004, 03:04:36 PM »

Maybe the twelve songs wil be 7-10 minutes long each?

I doubt it cause 12 tracks time 10 minutes is 120 minutes and 12 times 7 mins is 84 min. a cd holds 80 minutes Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2004, 03:08:05 PM »

so technically considering a cd is only 80 minutes, barring a 2 disc set *which is what id love to see* there really isnt any way to fit 15 to 16 songs.

16 songs would average 5 minutes a piece, which if u had enough 3 and a half minute rockers u could fit all that on there and still have 2 or 3 8 plus minute epics.

so it'll be interesting

i think a 2 cd set priced reasonably at 20 bucks would be fuckin amazing, 12 songs on each cd, then axl could have chinese democracy and the 2nd cd of the crazy experimental stuff.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2004, 03:11:16 PM »

It would depend on the quality of the tracks, if all twelve tracks were all of outstanding quality I would not be disappointed in the slightest, otherwise yes I would.

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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2004, 03:11:35 PM »

Don't they have 90 minute Cd's now I  swore that I saw them in a store?

I don't care how many songs are on CD ,I just want some new guns material.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2004, 03:12:24 PM »

I'm okay with 12 tracks.  Any less would be disappointing, and I'd rather have more, but 12 is pretty standard and I'd be fine with it, I think.

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2004, 03:34:08 PM »

Sometimes pairing an album down is the best thing to do. The best example of this is The Who's and Townsend's LIFEHOUSE project. Townsend intended to write another massive Tommy like rock opera and make a concert film with it. He recorded 30-40 tracks. However, along the way he became slightly stressed by the undertaking and freaked out. Instead of scrapping the whole thing he just took 9 powerhouse songs, dropped the film project and we got Who's Next, one of the greatest albums ever , certainly the Who's best. The rest of the tracks were eventually released at various times on b-side compilations and other albums. Axl has to have a monster album right off the bat, critically and commercially. Long sprawling albums don't generally get great reviews because there is always something someone doesn't like. By pairing the album down to the best tracks, he has a much better chance of it being critically accepted. Critical acceptance and sales will then give our fractured little redhead the confidence to release his other albums. Thus, 12 songs may be the smartest thing to do.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2004, 03:37:10 PM »

TOMMY.....or was it Dizzy?...said there are 6 epic songs in length......a possible average for the 6 songs... would be 8 minutes ?

6x8= 48 minutes....

you still have 32 minutes worth of songs... If they do the whole 80 minutes...then its very likely that they will have more than 12 songs.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2004, 03:42:33 PM »

yeah, 6 epics at a running time of 8 minutes apiece would still give 32 which could be 8 4 minute songs but if there are 6 epics then im guessin we will have 12 to 13 songs.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2004, 03:58:04 PM »

Won't be dissapointed, would be glad if the cd was in the stores, doesn't matter if it had 12 or 18 tracks.
Would love it, no matter what
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2004, 04:17:21 PM »

yeah, 6 epics at a running time of 8 minutes apiece would still give 32 which could be 8 4 minute songs but if there are 6 epics then im guessin we will have 12 to 13 songs.

hmmm but isnt  Madagascar considered an epic ? Its under 6 minutes....I'll be willing to bet that we'll have more than 14 songs, 15-16 .

Remember rhiad and the bedouins is only  3 minutes and 20 secs long,  God I love that song. smoking
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2004, 04:23:07 PM »

I think the album will be about 14-16 songs.
Here is how I think the album wll break down.

5 songs that are 6-8 mins.
1 song that is 10
4 that are 5 mins
and 6 that are about 3

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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2004, 04:30:50 PM »

I think the album will be about 14-16 songs.
Here is how I think the album wll break down.

5 songs that are 6-8 mins.
1 song that is 10
4 that are 5 mins
and 6 that are about 3



It's at least 78 minutes. We won't get that much. My tip:

4 songs that are 6-8 mins.
5 around 5
6-7 around 3-3 and a half minutes
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2004, 04:31:50 PM »

This is a question someone should ask tommy or dizzy.
How many tracks on CD
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2004, 04:33:20 PM »

This is a question someone should ask tommy or dizzy.
How many tracks on CD

lol - they had to go to LA just to find out what the songs sound like! They have no idea about anything to do with the album, they are truly hilarious as a ''band''
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