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Re: Axl's Social Commentary
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Quote from: ppbebe on September 11, 2004, 05:30:30 PM
Quote from: random Jesse James on September 11, 2004, 04:24:08 PM
As far as introspective goes.... I'm very curious to see if he will show some humility in his lyrics.?
By contraries I?ve been viewing OIAM as a song full of humility.
i agree although i think any humility that can be gleaned from OIAM is indirect. what i mean is that with a protest song (especially the kind of personal protest songs that Axl specializes in) you really are getting a glimpse of someone who feels beat up on, dragged down, and vulnerable. Sure, the expression of the feeling is strength, hostility, aggression but the feeling inspiring it is quite the opposite.
SO, while i would like to see if Axl's new lyrics show some self-reflection and possible awareness and recognition of wrong-doing even if they don't, we still get to see his weaknesses, admitted or not.
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if there's a PRO BUSH song in there I would probably skip it.
And I will probably lose respect for axl.
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You can be Pro-America, Pro-soliders but Anti-War and Anti-Bush tho. I have a feeling Axl might be that..
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September 13, 2004, 12:40:22 AM »
Quote from: POPmetal on September 11, 2004, 02:34:54 PM
Quote from: gnr157 on September 11, 2004, 01:40:55 PM
especially from right wing American conservatives.?
nowadays it's the left wing critics who trash Axl because they
still
can't get over the fact that he used the word "faggot" in a song over 15 years ago
when was the last time you heard a "right wing American conservative" bitch about Axl?
LOL, I think people have a bigger fish to fry then Axl Rose, as the poster child for saying "fag". I doubt anybody has made a fuss over him for probably 13 yrs?
. So I don't think the 'left critics' are sitting around 'trashing' him these days as you imagine?
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The last time I heard a right winger complain about Axl was probably about the same time I heard a lefty complain about Axl....sometime around 1987-1991....Yea...around that time....
Thanks for making me laugh though!? ?
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September 13, 2004, 12:42:32 AM »
Political doesn't always mean one side or the other...it means....political!
Doesn't mean he is going to be holding any one side as the truth and singing about it.
It may just be a loose fitting term defining his broader sense of the world these days. It happens when you grow up.....
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Look, Axl has consistently been an enigma with regard to seemingly every aspect of his life...Other than Axl, who's to say exactly how he views current world events? While the ideas he puts forward in some of GNR's songs are touched by a quasi-political brush, his lyrics have never been overtly political. Questions about war, mortality, relationships, conflict, etc...have all been major conerstones of his writing, but I actually believe that his Ego is the thing that makes his lyrics so universal...Axl consciously aspires to tackle the meat and potatoes,so to speak, of human existance....It's his acute sense of the melodramatic that shapes his work...Look at the artists he admires: Queen, Elton John, The Beatles, and so on....Axl's view of rock and roll in general, and songwriting in particular, having been shaped by such larger than life acts, has to be one of immense scope. In Axl's mind, he writes about the human condition and topics that match the subject matter of the artists he had admired...That's why his music is larger than life and his persona is equally so....Such grand statements are par for the course as far as he sees RNR through his lens.
His ego is such that when combined with his depth of varying emotions, every trial and tribulation that he endures in his life becomes almost too much to bear.....This is what makes an artist incredible, and what makes their lyrics universal..All he'll probably do, in my expert opinion
, is take the underlying emotions caused by the global turmoil of the past few years, relate them to traumatic events in his own life, and filter them through his, apologies for the unintended pun, rose-colored glasses...Sorry for the rant, I'm a douche...
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i dont mind social comentary in music along the lines of a civil war, chinese democracy, or a OIAM
i in particuliar dont like artist force feeding you their politics like rage against the machune, pearl jam, and other bands and acts of the sort, which is why also i cant stand alot of the hollywood crowd like michael moore so while social commentary is fine and can be done i just hope it aint to political
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Re: Axl's Social Commentary
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Quote from: SLCPUNK on September 13, 2004, 12:40:22 AM
Quote from: POPmetal on September 11, 2004, 02:34:54 PM
Quote from: gnr157 on September 11, 2004, 01:40:55 PM
especially from right wing American conservatives.?
nowadays it's the left wing critics who trash Axl because they
still
can't get over the fact that he used the word "faggot" in a song over 15 years ago
when was the last time you heard a "right wing American conservative" bitch about Axl?
LOL, I think people have a bigger fish to fry then Axl Rose, as the poster child for saying "fag". I doubt anybody has made a fuss over him for probably 13 yrs?
. So I don't think the 'left critics' are sitting around 'trashing' him these days as you imagine?
.
The last time I heard a right winger complain about Axl was probably about the same time I heard a lefty complain about Axl....sometime around 1987-1991....Yea...around that time....
Thanks for making me laugh though!? ?
Right back at ya! The fun is all mine actually, because here is at least one article from
2003
where a bitter left wing critic from a mainstream publication savages Axl, says that even Michael Jackson seems sane compared to Axl, gloats about how Nirvana "eclipsed Rose and his band," basically proceeds to tear Axl a new one, and then bitches about how OIAM
"depicted homosexuals as immoral disease-spreaders"
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=91
People like you really need to get a clue before opening their mouths. And even when critics don't openly criticize Axl about OIAM, a lot of the time, their antipathy for Axl is in fact fueled by his use of that politically incorrect word.
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Quote from: ccorn69 on September 13, 2004, 03:33:47 AM
i dont mind social comentary in music along the lines of a civil war, chinese democracy, or a OIAM
i in particuliar dont like artist force feeding you their politics like rage against the machune, pearl jam, and other bands and acts of the sort, which is why also i cant stand alot of the hollywood crowd like michael moore so while social commentary is fine and can be done i just hope it aint to political
So long as you feel that way, I would politely ask that you remove the tag-line from under your name and quit the campaigning, as I feel imposed upon by your views......
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