smokers vs non-smokers

[Will]

Out of curiosity, how many of you smokers would continue to smoke if someone nearby asked you to stop?

I would throw my cig' away or just go away...

[BabyJenks]

If it's an establishment that allows smokers, then i'll smoke regardless of what others think. There are non-smoking aeas for a reason.  If someone else's smoke bothers me, then i just move, no need to bother them.  I've been a smoker and a non-smoker at different times.

[Dizzy]

Like I already said, I don't really see the massive problem with it.? As someone pointed out earlier, there are much bigger environmental problems which are probably more hazardous to your health, than smoking.

And as I said earlier, the things that are worse than smoking are entirely irrelevant.  This thread is about smoking.

As with most people who defend smoking, you must resort to comparing it to something "worse", because the fact is that smoking is completely indefensible.  There is not one good reason to smoke, nothing good can come from it, and there is absolutely nothing that can justify it.  So what do you do?  You point the finger at something else to attempt to lessen the severity of smoking.  Every single person who tries to justify or defend smoking ineluctably resorts to the same defense.

[matt88]

Weird...whenever i ask someone politely to put their cigarrette out or move away from me, i basically get told to fuck off or get a life

[SLCPUNK]

Weird...whenever i ask someone politely to put their cigarrette out or move away from me, i basically get told to fuck off or get a life

You'll have a life a lot longer than them more than likely anyway...

[Oddy]

Weird...whenever i ask someone politely to put their cigarrette out or move away from me, i basically get told to fuck off or get a life

simple solution,

buy the fattest cuban cigar possible.

when they say that, pull it out, light it, and just start blowing tonnes of smoke in their face/direction. their pissy little cigarettes are nothing compared to cigar smoke, it'll most likely annoy them alot. all my friends who smoke cigarettes absolutely hate cigars.

although it could back fire and they may ask you for a drag.

[Mr Cowbell ?]

Weird...whenever i ask someone politely to put their cigarrette out or move away from me, i basically get told to fuck off or get a life

simple solution,

buy the fattest cuban cigar possible.

when they say that, pull it out, light it, and just start blowing tonnes of smoke in their face/direction. their pissy little cigarettes are nothing compared to cigar smoke, it'll most likely annoy them alot. all my friends who smoke cigarettes absolutely hate cigars.

although it could back fire and they may ask you for a drag.

That is so funny yet true, when I am at a casino and someone sits down next to be smoking a cig and blowing it in my face, many times I have lit up a cigar and just blew it back, and I dont smoke cubans I smoke cheap, nasty smelling ones.

[matt88]

Weird...whenever i ask someone politely to put their cigarrette out or move away from me, i basically get told to fuck off or get a life

simple solution,

buy the fattest cuban cigar possible.

when they say that, pull it out, light it, and just start blowing tonnes of smoke in their face/direction. their pissy little cigarettes are nothing compared to cigar smoke, it'll most likely annoy them alot. all my friends who smoke cigarettes absolutely hate cigars.

although it could back fire and they may ask you for a drag.

I may try that, yet if i smoke i usually choke straight away

It sorta sucks being an asthmatic

[kj_jive]

Oh by the way...i was in California for a while.....

When i said that a little smoke never hurt anybody, obviously i know that it kills if you are a seriously heavy smoker....what i meant was just stop whining and be a little thick skinned.  i can't believe people will complain about a bit of smoke, with all the other crap in the air.  You risk your life driving to work everyday so please dont bother me with your complaints.

im gonna graciously excuse myself from this topic since it has absolutely nowhere to go...

[Wheres Izzy]

And as I said earlier, the things that are worse than smoking are entirely irrelevant.? This thread is about smoking.

As with most people who defend smoking, you must resort to comparing it to something "worse", because the fact is that smoking is completely indefensible.? There is not one good reason to smoke, nothing good can come from it, and there is absolutely nothing that can justify it.? So what do you do?? You point the finger at something else to attempt to lessen the severity of smoking.? Every single person who tries to justify or defend smoking ineluctably resorts to the same defense.

I don't think bringing up stuff worse than smoking is irrelevant at all. Basically what I feel "smokers" have been saying to the "non-smokers" is that you guys are all up in arms about us risking your health and so outspoken about it but theres other shit just as bad if not worse that you don't seem to care as much about or at least are not as outspoken towards. Instead of calling it irrelevant by saying this thread is just about smoking it would have made more sense to ask why were adding to it.

[Dizzy]

don't think bringing up stuff worse than smoking is irrelevant at all.

Of course you don't.? You're a smoker.? Anything that can even remotely alleviate blame for your habit is going to be relevant to you.

Basically what I feel "smokers" have been saying to the "non-smokers" is that you guys are all up in arms about us risking your health and so outspoken about it but theres other

Yes yes, I know.? It's the classic (and only) smoker's defense (and I use that word loosely).? You can't find anything to justify smoking, so you must resort to pointing your finger at something else.? Typical and ineffectual.? You're not fooling anyone into believing that smoking is any less hazardous simply because there are other pollutants in the air.? And yes, all other pollutants are irrelevant to this discussion.? You want to start a thread about car exhaust, go ahead, I'll rant about that there.? But here, it's irrelevant.? You just want it to be relevant so one's filthy smoking habit looks less severe.

Hell, one might say there are worse things in the world than child abuse.  Your argument is the same principle as saying "There are worse things than child abuse, so we shouldn't complain about that."

[SLCPUNK]

It's not rocket science here.

If you are a smoker then be considerate of other people and don't blow that cancer causing smoke around those who don't.

How hard is that to figure out?

If you know it causes cancer and other diseases, why would you subject others to it? If you want to kill yourself that is your choice. Knowing the medical facts and still doing that to others would mean you are a total dick.

[noonespecial]

If they asked politely, sure I'd put it out...but I've never had the experience anyone (non smoker) ask politely...you get what you give...

[Cornell]

If you want to kill yourself that is your choice. Knowing the medical facts and still doing that to others would mean you are a total dick.

I have stayed out of this as I have friends that are smokers and non smokers and I can see both sides.  Maybe they are dicks for continuing to smoke, but so are the heavy drinkers that are ruining their livers, people who eat too much and become waaay over weight, etc...  There sure are a lot of dicks out there. 

[Chris Misfit]

It's not rocket science here.

If you are a smoker then be considerate of other people and don't blow that cancer causing smoke around those who don't.

How hard is that to figure out?

It's not. But it's you guys whinging that is keeping the thread alive. I've already stated, that we cannot smoke in public places, apart from the streets and pub, yet you guys are still moaning. What more do you want?

Answer my previous question that everyone ignored (best way to win an argument). Where are you going to breathe in enough passive smoke, for it to be a health risk?

How many of the non-smokers here, use tabacco in their joints?

Dizzys right, no good comes from smoking, but you'll all sit there with your fucking stupid "Oooh, I'm gonna get cancer" bullshit. What about me? Do you drive past me and think, "I'm pollouting this poor guy" Do you fuck. So let's stop playing the blame game.

[axls_locomotive]

i think generally, most heavy drinkers dont impose anything on the person next to them...but smokers expose non smokers to at least 10 known carcinogens without their consent...so you cant really compare smokers and drinkers

and i fully agree with dizzy...

[loretian]

How many of the non-smokers here, use tabacco in their joints?

I tried once.? It ruined the joint.?

[Chris Misfit]

So you smoke dope, but complain about the smell of cigs? This thread is bollocks.

[Wheres Izzy]

don't think bringing up stuff worse than smoking is irrelevant at all.

Of course you don't.? You're a smoker.? Anything that can even remotely alleviate blame for your habit is going to be relevant to you.

Basically what I feel "smokers" have been saying to the "non-smokers" is that you guys are all up in arms about us risking your health and so outspoken about it but theres other

Yes yes, I know.? It's the classic (and only) smoker's defense (and I use that word loosely).? You can't find anything to justify smoking, so you must resort to pointing your finger at something else.? Typical and ineffectual.? You're not fooling anyone into believing that smoking is any less hazardous simply because there are other pollutants in the air.? And yes, all other pollutants are irrelevant to this discussion.? You want to start a thread about car exhaust, go ahead, I'll rant about that there.? But here, it's irrelevant.? You just want it to be relevant so one's filthy smoking habit looks less severe.

Hell, one might say there are worse things in the world than child abuse.? Your argument is the same principle as saying "There are worse things than child abuse, so we shouldn't complain about that."

you totally missed what I meant by all means. I am not saying nonsmokers don't have a right to complain about smoking nor do I feel I have to make up excuses to defend smoking. I can justify smoking easily for myself-I enjoy it. And ya know what if I wasn't a smoker I would probably hate smoke being around me so I am not trying to alleviate anything. Look people who hate smoking have made it harder for us to smoke in alot of places-good for you. Now focus that energy to other stuff you seem to be ignoring that is just as harmful.

[Mr Cowbell ?]

People smoke to get Nicotene, which is a drug that relaxes them and thats what they get from it .


Just like a drunk gets alcohol, which makes them forget their problems and be happy.