smokers vs non-smokers

[Wheres Izzy]

I am a smoker and I get irritated by the fact that in the ny/nj area we can't smoke anywhere anymore. I don't know if our friends overseas on this board share this problem but it's a heavy annoyance over here. Any non-smokers feel free to post your annoyances with us, as trivial as I believe them all to be.

[Izzy]

U smokers should be hung from the nearest lamp-post.

Kill urself by all means - but its outrageous u can get away with killing the rest of us through passive smoking, it makes me livid - to say smokers are selfish is not nearly going far enough

rant over.

[Rockin' Rose]

Here in Finland the laws aren't quite that strict, in the bars and restaurants there are usually two sides one for the smokers and the other for the non-smokers which is quite satisfying but lately there has been some talk about how the laws should be made similar to Norway and Ireland where you can't smoke any where (I think) and this is something I hope doesn't happen because a lot of my friends smoke as do I so when in a bar it would be just, well ridicules as there would be at least one person missing from the group as he/she is outside for a smoke.

Around May/June I met four people from Ireland in Lisbon and they told that because of the smoking laws of Ireland and the fact that they live about one hour's drive from N-Ireland they now a days go to the bars and clubs in N-Ireland.

[loretian]

I don't smoke tobacco, but honestly, it's a tough situation.  I don't like laws the prevent anyone from smoking, and I don't really believe that second smoke does much, if any, damage to the average person (we've discussed this before, waitresses and people that work at bars are excluded from this statement), but I really, really don't like having to smell tobacco smoke when other people are smoking it.  More specifically, I can't stand all my friends that smoke around me at bars, it just stinks and my clothes and hair stinks afterwards.

[SLCPUNK]

I used to smoke. I apologize for smoking around people who did not.

We know 100% that it can kill you. We also know that second hand smoke kills people.

Cry all you want about not being able to smoke. But where is the logic?

Smoke if you want, but don't get upset because other people don't want to smell/breath your crap (that will kill them down the road) too.

[SLCPUNK]

I used to smoke. I apologize for smoking around people who did not.

We know 100% that it can kill you. We also know that second hand smoke kills people.

Cry all you want about not being able to smoke. But where is the logic?

Smoke if you want, but don't get upset because other people don't want to smell/breath your crap (that will kill them down the road) too.

[Chris Misfit]

U smokers should be hung from the nearest lamp-post.

Kill urself by all means - but its outrageous u can get away with killing the rest of us through passive smoking, it makes me livid - to say smokers are selfish is not nearly going far enough

rant over.

Seriously, not all smokers are that bad. i would never smoke if I was near, or in the same room as a non-smoker, apart from a pub.

What I don't get is the shitty attitudes we get. You fuckers drive around in fucking jeeps and shit, and then complain about us guys. Blow it out your fucking bellend, you hypocrites.

[axls_locomotive]

i am also of the opinion that second hand smoke can kill and do not like being near smokers...

i dont like it that people can smoke in restaurants...or anywhere near food...bars and clubs would be ok with me though

personally i cant breathe where there is smoke...i dont know how anyone could inhale that crap for a minute never mind all day...

[Hammy]

I'm a smoker but i would never smoke in a restaurant, it may surprise some of you but many of us smokers don't like to have a cigarette with our meal.  Fine i smoke in pubs but i believe a pub without smoke is like a pub without beer, they just go hand in hand.  It's a scientific fact that a cigarette makes your beer taste better and vice-versa, i see it as part of pub and club culture.  People know what to expect when they go in so don't complain.  Maybe they should have some non-smoking pubs that ive heard they are setting up (some are already around e.g. Ireland) but you still need smoking ones.  I never smoke in my house, at my college we always had a smokers corner we went to which kept us away from all you normal people.  As far as im concerned most non-smokers just don't 'get it' and have nothing better to do than complain.  It's quite easy to avoid us smokers, i will move away from you if smoking or if you ask but if you just sit there and give me an evil stare you can have fun sitting there all night as far as im concerned it's your choice to move.  See that's what bothers me i sit down with my friends, spark up, we relax then some non-smoking friends/accaintances will sit down chatting like you do.  Then they procede to complain about the smoke and how it's bad for them and us.  Well they saw we were smoking when they came over if they wanted to avoid it they should not of come over in the first place

[crazejosh]

I smoke, there are no laws in Rhode island against it, therefore i smoke like a chimney

[badapple81]

This morning on the way to work I saw this lady smoking in her car with her kids, windows closed. Now that's just wrong wrong wrong.

[Hammy]

This morning on the way to work I saw this lady smoking in her car with her kids, windows closed. Now that's just wrong wrong wrong.

That i do agree with not only do i think it's wrong to allow your children to inhale your smoke but it's also setting a bad example.  I have always said that i will quit if and when i become a dad.

[GNR-Chris]

I'm a non-smoker and I have lung problems so I don't like to be near smoke. Its not so much a problem in most pubs, as they are often well ventilated.

The main problem to me is when I go home and realise that all my clothes stink of fag smoke. Thats a real bitch cos then I have to wash my clothes - and thats harder than you think cos my washing machine keeps leaking?

I also hate to see people pushing their children in a pushchair blowing all their smoke over their baby, I mean c'mon - grow a brain moron?

GNR-Chris

[Oddy]

i've never smoked a cigarette in my life, not even a puff.

however, i do enjoy the occasional cigar

yeah its weird i know........

the way i see it, i cant really become addicted to cigars, because i dont have them often, they cost so much too.

yes i know that all it takes is one puff of some tobacco to get addicted, but i choose to ignore that in my reasoning. i have a cigar anywhere from once every month to once every 3 months usually.

there's nothing like walking into a room full of smokers with a fat cuban cigar, blowing cigar smoke everywhere, its like it.........yes..........yes it almost annoys them. well not really.

but i dunno if banning smoking in pubs would work. i mean when i walk into a pub it looks like 80% are smoking. it would seem to impractical. where would smokers go, not that i care, but they have to smoke somewhere. i agree with the seperated bar seems like a good idea.

[Dizzy]

It's a scientific fact that a cigarette makes your beer taste better and vice-versa

Really?? A scientific fact, eh?? Hmm, I wonder why many highly skilled scientists labored long, strenuous hours to discover and prove this "scientific fact".? ?

As far as im concerned most non-smokers just don't 'get it' and have nothing better to do than complain.

Incorrect.? Not all non-smokers are as "considerate" as you are.  I have bad allergies and a high intolerance of cigarette smoke.  I've been to concerts where smoking was prohibited in the seats, but assholes light up anyway and then give me dirty looks and tell me to "fuck off" if I dare ask them politely to obey the damn rules.? This has happened on multiple occasions.

Also, I was once at a club where this stupid bitch blew smoke literally right in my face.? Now, I know it's a club and there is lots of smoking, but blowing smoke in someone's face is rude under any circumstances, pure and simple.? What's even worse, rather than apologizing, the lamebrained bitch gave me a dirty look and flicked her cigarette ash at me as it were my fault.

Fact is, many smokers simply don't give a damn whose air and space they're polluting, because they feel their "right" to smoke is more important than the health of those around them.

I used to smoke. I apologize for smoking around people who did not.

We know 100% that it can kill you. We also know that second hand smoke kills people.

Cry all you want about not being able to smoke. But where is the logic?

Smoke if you want, but don't get upset because other people don't want to smell/breathe your crap (that will kill them down the road) too.

Finally you and I agree on something!? I have absolutely no sympathy for smokers.? I say raise the damn cigarette tax and ban it from all public places, because it's disgusting and irredeemable.? If you must smoke, pollute your own house and vehicle.

And on a side rant, I want to say that, on an aesthetic basis, smoking is doubly disgusting by a female.? It pains me to see attractive young ladies ruin their appearance by putting cigarettes in their mouths.

[Miz]

I don't smoke, but quite a few of my friends do.  I don't really care unless we're in a small space, like a car or something.  I spend so much time in pubs that i'm just used to smoke now.  I'm not especially worried about passive smoking, because, (and this is true) to do as much damage as half an hour next to a barbecue, you'd have to continuosly passive smoke for a month.  Now how many people do you think die from too many barbecues?

But I am young and ignorant so who knows...

[Laura]

i am a very big non-smoker... why should u be aloud to smoke in a place and kill everyone around you... we dont let people drive drunk cause it kills people so why let ur second hand smoke infect my lungs and other inocent people. Children get ear infections and athsma from there parents of family smokin around them. It's an awful habit that all smokers should try to quit even though i know its very hard, ur just killin urself and the people around you!

[Sukie]

Seriously, not all smokers are that bad. i would never smoke if I was near, or in the same room as a non-smoker, apart from a pub.

What I don't get is the shitty attitudes we get. You fuckers drive around in fucking jeeps and shit, and then complain about us guys. Blow it out your fucking bellend, you hypocrites.

Oh god...I qualify for BOTH of those.  A jeep driver and a smoker.     What's that make me, Chris?

Smoking is my ONE bad habit.  I don't do other drugs besides caffeine and the occasional mixed drink.  I don't smoke around babies or inside concert venues.  If I have company over to my house that doesn't smoke, I'll go into another room in MY HOUSE to satisfy my craving.  Like others have said, a lot of us smokers try to be as considerate as we can.  Give us a break, how 'bout it?

[Doc Emmett Brown]

This morning on the way to work I saw this lady smoking in her car with her kids, windows closed. Now that's just wrong wrong wrong.

That i do agree with not only do i think it's wrong to allow your children to inhale your smoke but it's also setting a bad example.? I have always said that i will quit if and when i become a dad.

My friend recently became a dad and he tried to quit for the past 9 months.  He has not managed to quit successfully yet, so the wife bans him to the patio when he gets the urge to light one up.  So he moved his laptop and desk out there as well 

[Mr Cowbell ?]

Although Im not a big smoker. I do enjoy smoking at a pub/bar. I think a bar/pub should be able to determine themselfs if smoking is aloud. Here in Michigan its legal to smoke in bars and all bars allow it, if a non smoker doesnt like it, there are plenty of places that dont allow smoking they can go to.