watchin the vma's im confident axl will be an even bigger star than his prime!

[Saul]

huge , small .. heck .. I dont care if they diband the day after .. after all these years I just wanna hear the Chinese democracy album. (with bucketheads parts intact and high in the mix)

 

[Falcon]

We dont need guns n roses to be huge again, we just need them to pave the way for better more talented bands than what we saw tonite, Jet, Hoobastank, Good Charlotte, and Yellowcard.

That's the most insightful post I've ever read from you.

I agree 100%.

[HoldenCaulfield]

Hands down, the absolute worst awards show in history. The whole entire 3 hours was one big political commercial. Everyone seems so disenchanted. Everyone jumps up to the R&B and hip-hop "beats", but the look on the faces of the masses says "Something new needs to come kick our asses!". What an abysmal event. People can go on about how bad the 2002 GNR performance was, but good God...

[Doc Emmett Brown]

Axl has the looks, swagger, balls, and music to pull this off.
This can slaughter anything at the VMAs at the moment:

So, do you think he pulled it off at the 2002 VMAs?  Was his performance and singing slaughter-worthy?

It's interesting because your earlier posts called for an unbraided leather-clad Axl complete with photos, and then you switched to the new Axl. 

now was this ad rumor a ploy to get everyone to watch this awards show? sigh...

[Falcon]

If 1 more fuckin celebrity tells me the importance of voting, I will again in fact puke.

On topic, Jet was pretty good and Manson is always interesting..

[IndiannaRose]

Axl has the looks, swagger, balls, and music to pull this off.
This can slaughter anything at the VMAs at the moment:

So, do you think he pulled it off at the 2002 VMAs?? Was his performance and singing slaughter-worthy?

It's interesting because your earlier posts called for an unbraided leather-clad Axl complete with photos, and then you switched to the new Axl.?

now was this ad rumor a ploy to get everyone to watch this awards show? sigh...

The 2002 VMAs, slaughter? No. Surprise? Yes. To tell you the truth the Axl at the 2002 VMAs did not seem like the same Axl from RIR3 or the rest of the 2002 Tour. That's why I posted that London Docklands pic of him. In my dreams an unbraided leather-clad Axl would appear but a London Arena Axl would still pull off the job at the 2004 VMAs. I did not mean VMAs in general, but the 2004 VMAs. This year's VMAs was unimpressive.

[D]

guys please dont get my shit locked!!!!!!! i beg u!


lets get back on topic!!!


people focus too much on axl's age, if u are cool, u are cool, age doesnt matter in that regards.  can u imagine a kid who thinks somebody like billy madden of good charlotte is cool seein axl rose? can u imagine???

[IndiannaRose]

guys please dont get my shit locked!!!!!!! i beg u!

lets get back on topic!!!

The singer from Hoobastank deserves to be raped by a bunch of 700 pound Gorillas for makin' the world listen to his killer voice. There, better?

[Timothy]

guys please dont get my shit locked!!!!!!! i beg u!

lets get back on topic!!!

The singer from Hoobastank deserves to be raped by a bunch of 700 pound Gorillas for makin' the world listen to his killer voice. There, better?

more like 3 or 4 700 pound Gorillas.

[killingvector]

Then you have a curiously racial double standard...

why because i choose to criticize performers who are black who do not demonstrate the talents befitting a role model, which of course they are. To be blind to the fact that these people are role models to millions of people is being as naive as one can get. You can't tell me that Ludicris and posse walking off that boat with the gold chains around their neck, cognac in bottle being passed around, and being interviewed with profanities and gold teeth flying through the air does not reek of diseductation. Black or white or whatever color. They are riff raffs who got lucky. If you want to turn this into a racial thing, go ahead. I have always said hip hop/ rap performers; you labeled them all black so of course i must mean all black people.

Its entertainment...You think GNR were any better as role models?? You think the behavior of rock bands in the 80s (and every decade before and after) is that much better?

don't change the subject. we were talking about this show and these performers. GnR have not existed as they did since the early 90s. As such, the argument was valid then but not now.

So you mustve been horrified by an intoxicated Slash and Duff cursing onstage?? Or Axl diving into a crowd and assaulting a fan and causing a riot?? Or Izzy pissing on an airplane?? Need I go on?

sure I was. But we are talking about the VMAs 2004 right now.

So now were talking about videos specifically?? What about the lifestyle GNR publicly reveled in?? I find most rap videos (most videos in general, really) to be artistically bankrupt.? But when you go bringing race into it, sorry to say, but youre a racist.?

and you're an asshole. No one calls me a racist, you fucker. I don't have to prove or validate myself to you or anyone else. I take offense to your comments and from here on in won't respond to you anymore.

Racism works both ways; there are those who discriminate because of the color of others skin and there are those who discriminate because of the color of THEIR? own skin. Get a clue, grow up, learn something about the world, then get back to me. Or die, i really couldn't care less to waste another bit of time on a piece of trash like you.

[NickNasty]

There was nothing good that came out of the dreck that was the VMA's this year...unispired, overehearsed, uber-corporatized, and just downright sad. I recoginize it has always been a corporate event, but man, at least there used to be some real emotion, or even some controversey surrounding it (remember Fartman, Axl v. Kurt, Bon Jovi unplugged?) As off as the GNR performance was (largely due to tech errors), it was one of the few surprises MtV has successfully pulled off in this ever declining crapfest over the last few years. Also, I agree with what Dave said, Axl probably won't come back and be the leader of a new revoulution in rock, but if he can push some up-and-coming kids to think outside of the box, then it might just save us from a decade of pure horsehit being spun as rock n roll.

[The New Fiona Apple]

Hey guys. Remember me? I haven't been on here in a loooooooooooooooooong time. Well, tonight has made me come out of hiding and type this. This Hideous "Music" corporation MTV should be overthrown and down immediately. If you saw what I posted last year under Iraqi democracy about the VMAs. Multiply that Hatred and Apathy by 100 and you'll get my personal opinion on that "show".


P.S. I liked Outkast, but they should not have been the final performance because the final performance of the night should be special. PERIOD. END OF STORY.

P.S.S. Axl, SAVE THE MUSIC INDUSTRY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

P.S.S.S F*ck Little Jon

[Saul]

wow , what an ugly thread. do you guys REALLY need to argue about racism? isnt this 2004?

I mean didnt the nelly/xtina duet open your eyes to anything? erm .. nevermind.

seriously though .. you guys outta stop the racist B.S. here publicly and take it to PM's or something. it looks really bad.

 

[Naupis]

MTV markets to a younger generation.....age IS important. That and history shows that guys in their 40's aren't always given a fair shake by MTV. If Van Halen released a kick-ass CD tommorow that was musically incredible it still wouldn't get played because of all the factors surrounding the name and players. GNR and a 43 year old Axl will run into the same problems. It isn't fair but that is just the reality of MTV. We will never see GNR on TRL no matter how good the music is, but the big selling acts are all the ones appearing on TRL, so its tough egg to crack. You guys can be all optomistic that as long as the music is good they will be huge, but that is just not being realistic. If you actually look at the hole situation realistically, GNR faces a severe up-hill fight regardless of how good the music is.

[younggunner]

All I'm going to say is that I thank GOd for not allowing me to fall into the trap like the rest of my peers have fallen into. I thank GOd for not allowing me to embrace the garbage I just watched. Pure fukin Garbage. It wasnt even entertaining.

I am grateful that Im a fan of a band that is fronted by a 40+yr old. A band that inspires,entertains, and makes me feel normal.....to the old and new gnr 


WHat a joke

As a poster mentioned earlier...next yrs vmas have the potential to be much better.

[killingvector]

it wouldn't get that way if people weren't tossing the word around and labeling others as racist in an unjustified manner.

I am horrified to be part of this forum where one person can label another as racist just for criticising a group of performers who are black. Horrid.

[insupportofaxl]

All I can say is that if anyone thinks the VMA's are hosting more talent right now than W. Axl Rose and GN'R than you need to wake the fuck up and see reality.


Music needs a complete 360 degree turnaround to rock n' roll.? No more rap/hip hop shit.??

Axl will blow any group away hands down.?

360 degree turnaround? So, do you like hip hop and rap shit??

Just a joke, OK? Hope you understand...

i think you mean 180

Ooops. You are correct. (I always did suck at math)

On a side note, did anyone realize that all the rap artists joined together on eachother's albums?

Lil John and I think Usher and Pdiddy and Ludicris (maybe not in this order but they joined forces so they were all credited on each other's albums).

Now take Axl Rose..............a stand alone.............who doesn't need anyone to prove his talent.  I just wonder if Axl will start to copy Will Smith's dress code 

And Stevie Wonder on piano with Alicia Keyes kinda looked like a black version of Mr. Rose (okay.......everyone is supposed to laugh now)

Take that one to heart

[Naupis]

People can get on all of the rappers/R&B singers all they want and call them anything they want....but people are obviously responding in a positive way to their music as they are all top selling acts with big fan bases. At least they are out there making music and releasing albums for the public to consume. No one forces anyone to listen to those acts.....but I can guarandamntee you MTV would not litter the show with those acts if they weren't popular as all get out and people didn't want to see them.

GNR will be lucky to match the sales and radio play of half of those rappers you all love to hate. People don't go out and buy and actively listen to things they don't like....obviously the fans can't get enough of these groups we all don't like. Actions speak louder than words...and the fans actions dictate to MTV that this is who they want to see and MTV obliges.

[FlashFlood]

will you people cut the shit with this pc crap? like you're embarassed that someone on this board feels a certain way. fuck you people. get real. quit being so blind to reality.

[Booker Floyd]

Now take Axl Rose..............a stand alone.............

Yeah...a true stand-alone, with an 8-piece band (excluding orchestra conductors, horn sections, Elton John and backup dancers).

Now please excuse me while I watch the 1989 VMAs...Tom Petty and a stand-alone did a great rendition of "Free Fallin'"...