RUMOUR: Chinese Democracy Commercial To Air During 2004 VMA's!

[AxlFink]

maybe they wont have an actual comercial but maybe an announcement could be part of the actual show.  I also think it's the perfect place for Axl to promote it.  I dont think Axl is shooting for a bunch of 30 to 40 year old fans.  I would imagine he wants to take over every age group.

[Yanick]

You may be right....I only figured that they would aim for the over 30's since they're the majority "buyers' (not downloaders) of music...I also assume (maybe wrongly) that 70% of Gnr fans are male...I'd aim for sports personally...probably NFL football (has a decent female following also) ...ex: Season launch, Monday night ,get Axl to sing the Nat. anthem and have it shown at all the stadiums on the first sunday (like Bush flipping the coin last year) etc....
Again, I do hope I'm wrong cuz' i'm not too keen in seeing 75% of presenters/performers this sunday night...

Yanick

[Ted Nugent]

Some people on this forum are either delusional or complete idiots.  There is no way that the NFL would want to bring Axl in for anything.  Unless there is some product forthcoming then as far as they are concerned he's a washed up has been who has a penchant for not showing up when he's supposed to.

You seem to think that the media are going to greet CD as the musical event of the decade.  The reality is that they're going to be lining up to take cheap shots at Axl and the music.  The best if we can hope for is that the album doesn't get too badly damaged by the press reaction and people will judge for themselves.

[PhillyRiot]

The media doesn't care about Axl.  You never see Axl anywhere on the news or MTV when he is in his reclusive mode.

[Yanick]

I actually meant that Geffen would pay for the exposure...But if I spent as much $$$ on this record as has been reported, I'd cut my losses cuz' the sales would never justify the costs needed to promote this thing...5 years ago (before napster, before the failed tour, etc...) I would, but not now...Tax write-off....

No need to call anyone an idiot btw...Just thought that something more male and older would be more appropriate than the Vma's which are targeted mainly (80% of audience is younger than 30) at 12-17's and 18-24's...
Cheers,

Yanick

[Ted Nugent]

I'm sorry about the idiot remark, i'm starting to get frustrated by this.

On the subject of making a profit from CD.  I just recently moved and while I was going through some old stuff in my garage I found a magazine from 1993 which had a small story about Guns N' Roses earnings.  They claimed that in 1992 and 1993 that GN'R had brought in $53 million.  It is highly questionable if they still have that kind of drawing power in the US anymore but a prolonged world tour would still be able to bring this project back into profit.

If Axl is prepared to cowboy up and do what is needed then CD will at the very least be a financial success.  We should remember that the rolling stones have brought out some pretty subpar albums and have still been able to draw huge numbers at concerts.

[Yanick]

Very true...But the artists are the ones making the $$$ on concerts...not the labels...
I bet that in 5 years, we'll be buying our music directly from the artists themselves...At least the established ones who own their catalogues...

[Ted Nugent]

The record company won't sit back and do nothing if they've paid out $13 million for the recording of the album and Axl is making big bucks on a tour.  They'll get their money.

We're already seeing a shift towards artists directly marketing their material through the internet.  As more people get broadband internet connections the number of customers for this will only increase.  Maybe i'm old fashioned but i like to buy the cd with the pretty label rather than downloading it and burning it onto a cdr.

[ThisLife]

For those of you who constantly private message me trying to get me to reveal my source,sorry I will not break the agreement I have.

[Ted Nugent]

For those of you who constantly private message me trying to get me to reveal my source,sorry I will not break the agreement I have.

Most people will just assume that there is no source and you made this up.

[The Estranged MrFlashbax]

For those of you who constantly private message me trying to get me to reveal my source,sorry I will not break the agreement I have.

Most people will just assume that there is no source and you made this up.

come on now.. even if he did say that his source was axl himself.. would you believe him?

[Axl_owns_dexter]

There is no way that the NFL would want to bring Axl in for anything.  Unless there is some product forthcoming then as far as they are concerned he's a washed up has been who has a penchant for not showing up when he's supposed to.

A washed up has been whose songs mysteriously play at every freakin sports game there is. 

[Mr Cowbell ?]

The record company won't sit back and do nothing if they've paid out $13 million for the recording of the album and Axl is making big bucks on a tour.? They'll get their money.

We're already seeing a shift towards artists directly marketing their material through the internet.? As more people get broadband internet connections the number of customers for this will only increase.? Maybe i'm old fashioned but i like to buy the cd with the pretty label rather than downloading it and burning it onto a cdr.

Exactly Nuge, I love when Artist put great detail into making a good album. A beautiful cover and a cool design on the cd itself. I have dial up and i am not insterested in Downloading online. I used to download a song or two then swing into Best Buy to buy the album. Napster only made be want to co get the actual item.

The NFL would never put him up singing at multi games. I could see Axl maybe singing at a NY Giants games, because every game of the NY Giants I have seen over the last five years I have heard WTTJ playing before opening kick off and after half time. But I think that will be the clostest Axl gets to playing at a NFL Game.

[D]

GNR need to promote CD like Halo 2 is being promoted

a commercial with a hidden but easy to find website, u go to that website and there is tons of kick ass info! that would rule! if anyone has seen the halo 2 thing u know what im talkin about, i cant remember it exact but ill look it up and give detail, if anyone knows share it!

[Mr Cowbell ?]

GNR need to promote CD like Halo 2 is being promoted

a commercial with a hidden but easy to find website, u go to that website and there is tons of kick ass info! that would rule! if anyone has seen the halo 2 thing u know what im talkin about, i cant remember it exact but ill look it up and give detail, if anyone knows share it!

Exactly that game has been delayed and people have been wanting that since the original came out when the X Box debuted. I think a plan similiar to this would do great for GnR

[ccorn69]

guys i dont think the halo strategy would work for GNR. halo was released in 2001 3 years ago, gnr's last release was over a decade ago, I dont know how much of the public are as hungry as we are for cd, a promotion plan like HALO 2's works if the mass public of your market (in Halos case video game players) is anctiously awaiting the release, is such a fashion that it almost promotes itself just by putting up a website and doing a few things gamer magazines.  FOr CD it will be alot more difficult, and the promotion put into it will have to be some of the heaviest ever, to reawaken old gnr fans who have moved on and to try and capture knew ones.  and while im not syaing cd is doomed to failure cause i think it will be a hit i do believe that the marketing strategy has to be brilliant and the campiagn massive, including things like tv commercials, and website but so much more also

[DemocracyRose]

For those of you who constantly private message me trying to get me to reveal my source,sorry I will not break the agreement I have.

I think you will get alot more private message from people here, if this turns out to be BS.....

[Ted Nugent]

There is no way that the NFL would want to bring Axl in for anything.? Unless there is some product forthcoming then as far as they are concerned he's a washed up has been who has a penchant for not showing up when he's supposed to.

A washed up has been whose songs mysteriously play at every freakin sports game there is.?

I'm not saying that he's washed up or a has been.  That is probably how is he viewed by many people who aren't fans due to the fact that he hasn't finished CD.

And these songs that are being played before football games are 17 years old now.  Axl will be judged on what he is doing now, not the glory days of the 80's.

[D]

last time i checked Axl and Jon Bon Jovi are the same age, Axl being a month older i think, since axl's is in February i think and Jon's is march 2nd.? Jon and the rest of Bon Jovi a couple years ago played before 500,000 in the NFL kick off event! So age has nothing to do with it. As popular as GNR are with the NFL, im sure if everything fit and was valid would more than willingly let GNR perform.

[fixintodie]

Not to mention the still rocking Aerosmith, who appeared at the Super Bowl and the season launch last year. Steve Tyler's 56.