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Velvet Revolver's next album
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My guess is it will come out in 2006 and will be a tighter, better collection of songs than "Contraband," which is still excellent.
Here's my one suggestion: Dump Dave Kushner and get Izzy.
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Quote from: RichardNixon on August 04, 2004, 08:47:57 PM
My guess is it will come out in 2006 and will be a tighter, better collection of songs than "Contraband," which is still excellent.
Here's my one suggestion: Dump Dave Kushner and get Izzy.
Why dump dave? he is awesome!You know izzy won't work with a singer after what happened in his GN'R days
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Dump Dave? so you totally hate contraband? Dave was very important to the sound acheived by the band
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Dont dump Dave, he is cool. But get Weiland to sing Izzy songs, VR needs a dosis of Izzy
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Quote from: Jizzo on August 04, 2004, 11:20:56 PM
Dump Dave? so you totally hate contraband? Dave was very important to the sound acheived by the band
Where did I say I hate "Contraband"? Dave is cool, nothing wrong with him. But there is only one Izzy Stradlin. IMHO, he's like the Bob Dylan of hard rock. Just listen to "River" and "Ride On."
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Quote from: RichardNixon on August 05, 2004, 04:51:38 AM
Quote from: Jizzo on August 04, 2004, 11:20:56 PM
Dump Dave? so you totally hate contraband? Dave was very important to the sound acheived by the band
Where did I say I hate "Contraband"? Dave is cool, nothing wrong with him. But there is only one Izzy Stradlin. IMHO, he's like the Bob Dylan of hard rock. Just listen to "River" and "Ride On."
yeah there's only one Izzy Stradlin...but what does that have to do with Dave Kushner or Velvet Revolver?
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Yeah no way can you dump Dave he is important 2 VR do you think VR will do something different on there next album?
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Quote from: RichardNixon on August 04, 2004, 08:47:57 PM
My guess is it will come out in 2006 and will be a tighter, better collection of songs than "Contraband," which is still excellent.
Here's my one suggestion: Dump Dave Kushner and get Izzy.
If Contraband got any "tighter" or "better" it would be as good as AFD.
And why would you dump a good musician who's been described by those in the band as the anchor??
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Quote from: K-Rock on August 05, 2004, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: RichardNixon on August 04, 2004, 08:47:57 PM
My guess is it will come out in 2006 and will be a tighter, better collection of songs than "Contraband," which is still excellent.
Here's my one suggestion: Dump Dave Kushner and get Izzy.
If Contraband got any "tighter" or "better" it would be as good as AFD.
Yeah sure
Contraband was good but c'mon - its not even close to GNR's worst track
Dave might have been awesome but the production on that album was so poor i struggle to make out his contribution
Better production is a must for the new album - things need to be more distinctive - oh and Scott needs to actually write the lyrics for this one, getting his kids to pen them seems to have backfired big time 'rape my tapeworm abortion' - really, makes Estranged look like shit don't it?
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Quote from: RichardNixon on August 05, 2004, 04:51:38 AM
Quote from: Jizzo on August 04, 2004, 11:20:56 PM
Dump Dave? so you totally hate contraband? Dave was very important to the sound acheived by the band
Where did I say I hate "Contraband"? Dave is cool, nothing wrong with him. But there is only one Izzy Stradlin. IMHO, he's like the Bob Dylan of hard rock. Just listen to "River" and "Ride On."
I know what Izzy brings, I've listened to all his solo records. I also know what Dave brings. Dave fits this band well. Izzy is doing just fine as a solo artist who makes unpopular but great solo records for his fans
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I wouldn't go as far as saying that Contraband wasn't as good as GNR's worst track...it was a good album...especially by today's standards. We're finally seeing some decent rock talent on the charts.
I do agree that the second album should be produced better...
And for the second album...more crazy Slash solo's...they were good on CB...but not like the Slash of old.
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I don't know why everyone is so hell-bent on AFD. It was a awesome album, and I love it sooo much, if people try to compare it to any other album every they get tossed and made fun of and look down on.
I mean it's great, I prefer Use Your Illusions II over it easy. It's a too similair. UYI2 has more variety.
AFD is great... but I'm not sure on why people put it up on this pedestal. It was the right album with the right band, at the right time. Like Slash said. Very timely. They were something different. Put it out today, and it might sell 2 million copies. Real rock bands can't sell... now in time.
Point? Get off the undisputed AFD talk please? It gets old.
On topic...
I think VR will cough out another album, and I do believe it to be better then COntraband... I hope it will be which will be hard to do though. I think it will come out Late 2005 actually. Which is cool. Go VR!
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I saw bring in Izzy because he is such a great songwriter. Now that would make VR as cool as shit. But, why bother saying that? There's a better chance of VR getting Kurt Cobain.
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Quote from: Jizzo on August 05, 2004, 12:50:09 PM
Izzy is doing just fine as a solo artist who makes unpopular but great solo records for his fans
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true, Izzy's albums have zero promotion, no videos, singles or even a tour - he doesn't even do interviews. Add to that often no more than 10,000 copies are even made and most of them end up in Japan and its seems the lack of sales is much more to do with the fact no one even knows he's producing music - therefore the sales he does manage are truly astounding.
Let's face it - if u weren't a GNR fan would u even know who Izzy was let alone that he did albums?
His album's are very good and i think with some serious promotion they would sell millions - ultimatley his albums are Rolling Stones efforts under another name and judging from their continued success there is a market for that style.
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I read about a month ago on Channel 4 in the uk.
Their music teletext service had an interview with Duff
and he said rough ideas were already being demo'd.
I still find Contraband a very good listenable album.
Although of course for the 2nd album they will have
spent more time together and hopefully that will gel the potential we can see already.
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Quote from: Izzy on August 05, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
Contraband was good but c'mon - its not even close to GNR's worst track
I seem to remember you throwing around the "opinion" word in another thread.
The phrase 'your opinion' springs to mind.
<--------- yep, there it is.......remember that Izzy?
I think Contraband tops UYI I & II.
Quote from: Izzy on August 05, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
Dave might have been awesome but the production on that album was so poor i struggle to make out his contribution
I find absolutely nothing wrong with the production on Contraband.
Quote from: Izzy on August 05, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
Better production is a must for the new album - things need to be more distinctive - oh and Scott needs to actually write the lyrics for this one, getting his kids to pen them seems to have backfired big time 'rape my tapeworm abortion' - really, makes Estranged look like shit don't it?
I'm not one who cares much about the lyrics.? If it rocks.....it stays in my cd player.? I'm not looking for rock 'n' roll songs with "deep meaning". But I'm sure if you looked hard enough, there would be some meaningful songs on Contraband. Good luck with that.
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Quote from: K-Rock on August 06, 2004, 03:19:41 PM
Quote from: Izzy on August 05, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
Contraband was good but c'mon - its not even close to GNR's worst track
I seem to remember you throwing around the "opinion" word in another thread.
The phrase 'your opinion' springs to mind.
<--------- yep, there it is.......remember that Izzy?
I think Contraband tops UYI I & II.
Quote from: Izzy on August 05, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
Dave might have been awesome but the production on that album was so poor i struggle to make out his contribution
I find absolutely nothing wrong with the production on Contraband.
Quote from: Izzy on August 05, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
Better production is a must for the new album - things need to be more distinctive - oh and Scott needs to actually write the lyrics for this one, getting his kids to pen them seems to have backfired big time 'rape my tapeworm abortion' - really, makes Estranged look like shit don't it?
I'm not one who cares much about the lyrics.? If it rocks.....it stays in my cd player.? I'm not looking for rock 'n' roll songs with "deep meaning".? But I'm sure if you looked hard enough, there would be some meaningful songs on Contraband.? Good luck with that.
I think that better song-writing would be better rather than better production.
Secondly, Contraband dosen't even come close to UYI I & II.
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Quote from: K-Rock on August 06, 2004, 03:19:41 PM
Quote from: Izzy on August 05, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
Contraband was good but c'mon - its not even close to GNR's worst track
I seem to remember you throwing around the "opinion" word in another thread.
The phrase 'your opinion' springs to mind.
<--------- yep, there it is.......remember that Izzy?
I think Contraband tops UYI I & II.
Quote from: Izzy on August 05, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
Dave might have been awesome but the production on that album was so poor i struggle to make out his contribution
I find absolutely nothing wrong with the production on Contraband.
Quote from: Izzy on August 05, 2004, 10:46:24 AM
Better production is a must for the new album - things need to be more distinctive - oh and Scott needs to actually write the lyrics for this one, getting his kids to pen them seems to have backfired big time 'rape my tapeworm abortion' - really, makes Estranged look like shit don't it?
I'm not one who cares much about the lyrics.? If it rocks.....it stays in my cd player.? I'm not looking for rock 'n' roll songs with "deep meaning".? But I'm sure if you looked hard enough, there would be some meaningful songs on Contraband.? Good luck with that.
Lol - shall we go back and forth with the whole ur opinion my opinion stuff?
So u don't care about the lyrics and aren't looking for deep meaning in ur songs - u should try stuff by WASP then
So basically ur saying as long as Slash is there and plays some average to good guitar work thats enough? Productions, lyrics etc really are irrlevant to u?
Fair enough - if ur so easily pleased then good for you - i personally need a bit more substance. That ur so easy to please doesn't really lend much credibility to your 'defence' of Contaband - and as for ur GNR bashing - well maybe there too complicated for u?
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Re: Velvet Revolver's next album
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Quote from: Izzy on August 06, 2004, 04:11:16 PM
Fair enough - if ur so easily pleased then good for you - i personally need a bit more substance.
Maybe cuz you're anal like a Harvard professor
Quote from: Izzy on August 06, 2004, 04:11:16 PM
That ur so easy to please doesn't really lend much credibility to your 'defence' of Contaband -
That statement has no substance.? Because I pay more attention to the music itself than lyrics makes my opionion less credible??
Quote from: Izzy on August 06, 2004, 04:11:16 PM
and as for ur GNR bashing - well maybe there too complicated for u?
Because I like Contraband more than UYI.......I'm GNR bashing??? Guns N' Roses have been my favorite band since August 1987.? The only complaint I've had was how long it's taken for CD to come out.
You're like a little Chiwawa behind me nipping at my heels anytime I speak highly of VR.? What are you Axl's girlfriend??
Hey, does this insult you or get you panties all bunched up......."If
earth vs. the wildhearts
was released the same time as AFD......and promoted in the U.S............GNR probably wouldn't have been as big as they are today".?
Contraband, earth vs. the wildhearts, P.H.U.Q.......all better than UYI....in my "less credible" opinion of course.
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Quote from: K-Rock on August 06, 2004, 04:47:43 PM
Quote from: Izzy on August 06, 2004, 04:11:16 PM
Fair enough - if ur so easily pleased then good for you - i personally need a bit more substance.
Maybe cuz you're anal like a Harvard professor
What a strange remark? Do i respond with 'Your mum'?
Being comapred to a Harvard Professor surely the pinacle of academic excellence is something take as a compliment
Quote from: Izzy on August 06, 2004, 04:11:16 PM
That ur so easy to please doesn't really lend much credibility to your 'defence' of Contaband -
That statement has no substance.? Because I pay more attention to the music itself than lyrics makes my opionion less credible??
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That the lyrics and production of an album are irrlevant to u certainly does damage ur opinion somewhat....''its got a good guitar solo so sod the other 4mins of the song...''
Quote from: Izzy on August 06, 2004, 04:11:16 PM
and as for ur GNR bashing - well maybe there too complicated for u?
Because I like Contraband more than UYI.......I'm GNR bashing??? Guns N' Roses have been my favorite band since August 1987.? The only complaint I've had was how long it's taken for CD to come out.
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Lol - we have had this before. Your GNR bashing is the stuff of legend - VR better than GNR live etc etc etc
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Contraband, earth vs. the wildhearts, P.H.U.Q.......all better than UYI....in my "less credible" opinion of course.
Sure thing
I can't remember how this all started - oh wait, u said Contraband was almost as good as AFD
Ur entitled to your opinion - but c'mon that statement's nonsense
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