Is Rhiad and Silk Worms weak?

[nesquick]

I hope Axl wrote much better tunes over these last 10 years...with a Rock vibe. let's back to classic rock music. Stop this "indus/techno" joke. That is not GN'R. I don't want a "my world" type album?
I really hope he wrote some great "classic-rock" tunes. just pure Rock n' Roll, or blues-rock or ballads or whatever, just Rock n' Roll music based on guitars. electric/electro-accoustic/accoustic guitars whatever, just GUITARS. not computers...

the blues (rio version) is perfect. Here is a nice song!?

[Izzy]

Axl has actually said that the songs we've heard will probably not be singles as he is keeping the best stuff back.? Wait and see?

He also said

'where not working on this stuff to keep it buried'

and

'we'll see u next summer' (2001)

The only reason they won't be singles is because GNR don't look likley to ever put out another album

[Axl_owns_dexter]

We need studio versions if we are going to compare anything new to the old stuff.  Even if only for the reason that Axl's live voice just doesn't do justice to his studio vocals (sweet child '99  ).

[RumJungle]

I was at the the very first Vegas show and even though Rhiad was a song I never heard before, I thought it was a stand-out.  The bootlegs suck, there is so much more to this song that you just cant hear from an audience recording.
 I was totally blown away and the Chorus stuck in my head even after one listen.

This song kicks ass in every way.  People who were at that show know what Im talkin about.

OUT

[ChristineP]

I've been a hardcore GN'R fan since I was 8 years old in 88 and have never complained about anything before! Even My World is great!!

But as much as I try I can't seem to respect Rhiad And The Bedouins and Silk Worms. I mean the main riff in Rhiad is cool but there is something missing. Silk Worm is simply odd. Is it cause I just have bad bootlegs? Or does everybody feel the same way?

Silk worm is plainly rude for a reaason I am sure...They only write about stuff that is real in their life, so someone is really pissed about someone!

[gnrvrrule]

Both of these songs suck as far as I'm concerned.  They sound way too techno industrial.  They need to get down to the classic rock roots with some modern stuff added in; much like VR.  I'm hoping and praying for a great album, but the The Blues and Madagascar are the only good songs I've heard out of the six.  Hopefully, there's a lot of good stuff he's holding back.

[jarmo]

Both of these songs suck as far as I'm concerned.? They sound way too techno industrial.? They need to get down to the classic rock roots with some modern stuff added in; much like VR.?

I hope they don't do what VR did, instead maybe something similar what U2 did with Achtung Baby.




/jarmo

[kujo722]

No offense to anyone but I am sick of hearing "I want to hear some good classic rock". If thats what anyone wants, then go pop in Appetite or some Led Zepplin or whatever fits your tastes. After waiting all this time, I dont want to hear Appetite 2 or UYI 3. I want to hear some progression, it can still be GnR/Axl but have some new twists, like Jarmo pointed out U2's Achtung Baby is a good reference. I liked Contraband but since I had the feeling that I've heard it all before, I havent listened to it in quite awhile. I'm hoping that Chinese Democracy isnt collecting dust on my shelf after just a month. I have faith that wont be the case.

Again this is just my opinion. If someone wants to hear something different, thats fine.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

I agree with u Kujo. Although I do want it to be a recognizable GN'R sound, I dont want the same thing as Appetite and UYI's, if I did then I would go put in those cds. I want this album to be different and I am open to all types of music. From what I've heard this album will be awesome. With the exception of Silk Worms, all the songs kick ass. I think Riyadh And The Bedouins is a great song. One of my favorites. All these songs show great potential as studio tracks. Once we get this album, we will realize that these live bootlegs dont do justice to the songs. Just from those studio clips from the Boston promo I was blown away, and they were like 5 seconds of each song. This album is gonna be just like Axl said, different types of styles but with the GN'R sound. And from what I have heard that is true. This album will not dissapoint me in any way.


PS- What Velvet Revolver did was crap. I cant stand to listen to this record all ready. This is defiantely Slash's worst work since he left GN'R. And Scott Weiland is just annoying, espcecially on 'Spectacle.'

[Mr Cowbell ?]

PS- What Velvet Revolver did was crap. I cant stand to listen to this record all ready. This is defiantely Slash's worst work since he left GN'R. And Scott Weiland is just annoying, espcecially on 'Spectacle.'

From the bootleg I just downloaded of R&B,maybe LV i think? Its hard to really tell it could go either way being great or not being good.

Crap? I think Slash's work in VR isnt the question on the table. I think Slash does great on CB, I think the lack of an Izzy song and SLash writing all the lyrics himself is the weak point of CB

[F*ck Fear]

If Rhiad And The Bedouins had more lyrics it would be a real good song.....I like when Guns played it in Detroit 2002,that version is far better than Vegas.
Silkworms needs some work,and a studio version could possibly save it.....But I don't think it will be on Chinese Democracy as it is more advanced for fans of the original Guns sound,and Axl said three albums with each one will get more advanced.

[noonespecial]

...depends on what "turns your buttons"...for me those songs are god awful...but other people seem to get something out of it, so if the album ever shows up and those songs are on it all one has to do is hit the fastforward arrow...not a big deal

[gnrvrrule]

I agree that I don't want this to be Use Your Illusion 3.  I want stuff on this album I've never heard before.  But that does not include techno industrial, rap, or overproduced crap.  The "classic" sound I was referring to was the Gn'r sound, which to me is very unique but still has a great classic sound to it.  Hopefully, this album will have a lot of great stuff, sounding both classic and new at the same time (if that's possible).

[HoldenCaulfield]

They're not weak at all, just different. 'Riyadh' has a very "classic rock" sound, IMO, with the guitar and Axl's wail's. I just think it needs clearer lyrics and a slightly more stable solo. I also really like 'Silkworms'. The guitars kick ass, and Brain really tears the drums up. Obviously it's not a lyrical monstrosity, but it's honest and expresses the band's sentiments towards all the shit in the press. I love both songs, and they could really be a lot better with a studio version...

[ppbebe]

A hem, weirdly The Blues doesn?t do much for me.
Riyadh n Bedouin is my fav so far although it sounds incomplete like many say.
Possibly what we?ve heard is just the tip of iceberg.
Not having heard Detroit version yet, I like Dockland one.

I thought Silkworm lyrics were on about the song itself.

As for Led Zeppelin, their music were rather experimental and alternative at the time.
Try The Crunge(their interpretation of James Brown) or D?yer mak?er(their own reggae).

[Wheres Izzy]

Of all the new songs I have heard I think Rhiad and Silk Worms are by far the worst. I love chinese democracy, the blues, and Madagascar. (still looking for anyone with IRS) And hearing them got me excited about a new guns record even without the real core. But Rhiad and Silk worms I was just counting down the seconds until they were done.

[Krispy Kreme]

PS- What Velvet Revolver did was crap. I cant stand to listen to this record all ready. This is defiantely Slash's worst work since he left GN'R. And Scott Weiland is just annoying, espcecially on 'Spectacle.'

1. Listen to the album more than once
2. See them live
3. Open your mind
4. I could not disagree more. I disagree 1000000000000000% (you supply the commas)
5. Contraband is worse than 5 O'clock somewhere???
6. Wow.
6. Did 5 o'clock go platinum?

[F*ck Fear]

PS- What Velvet Revolver did was crap. I cant stand to listen to this record all ready. This is defiantely Slash's worst work since he left GN'R. And Scott Weiland is just annoying, espcecially on 'Spectacle.'

1. Listen to the album more than once
2. See them live
3. Open your mind
4. I could not disagree more. I disagree 1000000000000000% (you supply the commas)
5. Contraband is worse than 5 O'clock somewhere???
6. Wow.
6. Did 5 o'clock go platinum?

Did 5 o'clock somewhere have the hype and promotion Contraband did?

I do agree that Contraband is better than 5 o'clock though....It's better than any Snakepit shit.

[HoldenCaulfield]

btw you guys, the best version of 'Riyadh' is the Osaka audience/monitor mix. It kicks serious ass. As far as on video, the Pukkelpop is definitely the best version. The Detroit version was abysmal. Axl forgot the lyrics and repeated the first verse.

[Dave_Rose]

As I said before this topic I cant wait to hear the studio cuts of this song and I'd love to hear Rhiad in studio quality yeah like many of you have said it does feel like it missing something the solo kickass who plays the solo Bucket or Robin?