will the record label prevent Chinese democracy from being classic!

[D]

for anyone of u to even say that axl is in that company u should be fuckin immediately banned from this board and any GNR board

how the fuck can u call yourself a guns n roses fan and say some stupid bullshit like that


falcon are u really a gnr fan? how can u roll your eyes at me sayin axl will change the musical landscape?

why the fuck do u have such a hard on for axl and why do u want him to fail?

i get so sick of cynical, negative fucks on here, it drives me fuckin crazy!

axl is my hero and i will believe in him and his talents, and after cd is released all u negative bashers will have a big shit dog to stuff down your negative throats

some of u dont deserve to like axl as much as u doubt and diss the man

im fuckin out!

[Layne420]

I think the label in somewhat maybe causing some problems. Although it's great seeing Axl run the show and doing it his way.

Yead D, They got tons of people wanted to see Axl fail even old band members and people wanna know why Axl is like what he is today.



 

[Falcon]

falcon are u really a gnr fan? how can u roll your eyes at me sayin axl will change the musical landscape?

I obviously am, I wouldn't frequent this board if I wasn't.

As for Axl changing any musical landscape, it's highly unlikely.  He hasn't been relevant in at least 11-13 years (depending on your particular point of view) while no one in his band has wrote one piece of relevant music in their entire collective careers.  

Do the math.

why the fuck do u have such a hard on for axl and why do u want him to fail?

I have an objective view of his career and realistic expectations of his future
recordings, or lack there of.

i get so sick of cynical, negative fucks on here, it drives me fuckin crazy!


axl is my hero and i will believe in him and his talents, and after cd is released all u negative bashers will have a big shit dog to stuff down your negative throats

I find blind loyalists goofy...

[HoldenCaulfield]

I don't really think the record label will do anything to spook Axl. He's proven to be a very good ally to have, and pretty much has a religion devoted to himself. He's a proven commodity, and I think the label recognizes this album's potential. If the album comes out and isn't "great" because of something they forced on Axl, they'll feel it for years to come...

[younggunner]

while no one in his band has wrote one piece of relevant music in their entire collective careers.  

Do the math.

Thats why if this album is a masterpiece it will be that much sweeter.

[D]

im puttin every negative persons posts down, im gonna copy and paste them and save them in a special place so when CD comes out and these same people jump on the bandwagon, i can pull that shit out and call them on it


i have one question

if u can answer it, ill shut up

what has W Axl Rose ever done to make u doubt him?

is he not one of the greatest frontmen of all time? whether he releases another cd or not that does not in any way shape or form damage the legacy he built as being the wildest,craziest,most entertaining,maniacal,torutured,inspiring frontman of all time

not to mention one of the most diverse,unpredictable and greatest singer lyricist on the planet

to compare that to no talent hacks like bret micheals and vince neil is a fuckin insult! jani lane was actually quite talented so im not gonna bash jani although he isnt on axl's planet

axl will always be one of the top 10 frontmen of all time, and compare his spot to how many years he stuck around and that ratio would  put him at number 1

no one has ever did more in less time than axl rose

when axl drops the greatest cd in the last 15 years all of you will bow down and kiss axl's ass cause he is the greatest front man,vocalist, performer of my lifetime and better than ANY frontman ive ever seen!

i dont give a fuck how much the bullshit critics try to force these other frontmen down my throat and make them the greatest just because

no one in music history is better than axl as a frontman and perfomer in my opinion

and if axl fails ill still always love him and be his biggest fan and i dont give a shit if thats wrong!

[younggunner]

im puttin every negative persons posts down, im gonna copy and paste them and save them in a special place

Ive been doing that for some time now....cant wait till that album hits, ill have a very special post....

what has W Axl Rose ever done to make u doubt him?

is he not one of the greatest frontmen of all time? whether he releases another cd or not that does not in any way shape or form damage the legacy he built as being the wildest,craziest,most entertaining,maniacal,torutured,inspiring frontman of all time

not to mention one of the most diverse,unpredictable and greatest singer lyricist on the planet

to compare that to no talent hacks like bret micheals and vince neil is a fuckin insult! jani lane was actually quite talented so im not gonna bash jani although he isnt on axl's planet

axl will always be one of the top 10 frontmen of all time, and compare his spot to how many years he stuck around and that ratio would  put him at number

no one has ever did more in less time than axl rose

Amen to that

when axl drops the greatest cd in the last 15 years all of you will bow down and kiss axl's ass cause he is the greatest front man,vocalist, performer of my lifetime and better than ANY frontman ive ever seen!

i dont give a fuck how much the bullshit critics try to force these other frontmen down my throat and make them the greatest just because

no one in music history is better than axl as a frontman and perfomer in my opinion

and if axl fails ill still always love him and be his biggest fan and i dont give a shit if thats wrong!

Amen to that as well....

[Falcon]

i have one question

what has W Axl Rose ever done to make u doubt him?

!

No record of original material in 13 years.

Hardly faith inspiring.

if u can answer it, ill shut up

 

[younggunner]

No record of original material in 13 years.

From 94-97ish GNR was a lost band. Between band issues, legal shit etc. Old gnr ended around 97/98...New gnr began in 98/99....as you say do the math

[D]

are u serious dude?

no new album in 13 years?? shit they didnt stop tourin till almost 1994, slash quit, then duff quit and matt got fired

do u have any idea how long it must have took axl just finding a new band alone? with the chemistry and talent he was lookin for?

i honestly think the new band has been recording and workin for around 4 and a half years , which is a long time but not as long as alot of u make it out to be

none of axl's members have wrote any masterpieces but they havent wrote any shit music either

also bucket head has proved on his solo records that he can make up some pretty kick ass cool music, now put axl's vocals and lyrics over top of some of that and it would be awesome

axl may have worked on songs but im sure he scrapped anything that slash,duff or matt played on, so im sure in 99 he may have kept some songs he sketched out on piano but id say they started from scratch

i dont know why people want to bash axl, yeah he is always the bad guy, everything is always his fault, slash and co quit, axl didnt fire them so i dont blame axl for that, they were grown men they had a choice

matt sorum confirmed on BTM that the band were pussies basically and afraid, scared to death of axl, if they had stood up to axl maybe none of this would have ever happened

if u dont agree with something but dont speak up its just as much your fault as the other persons

[Falcon]

No record of original material in 13 years.

Old gnr ended around 97/98...New gnr began in 98/99....as you say do the math

The fact that Axl Rose hasn't had a record of new material under any name/moniker/alias/aka is undisputable and again, less than faith inspiring.

Nice try YG..

[younggunner]

The fact that Axl Rose hasn't had a record of new material under any name/moniker/alias/aka is undisputable and again, less than faith inspiring.

Nice try YG..

You know what is faith inspiring? He is the same guy who brought a band to the top. He is the same guy who brings the best out of his band members. He is the same guy who can write some amazing songs.

Thats what keeps the faith. Hes a guy who did not settle on making another gnr album with a bunch of hired guns. He wants perfection. Thats inspiring in and of itself. He has made this his life.

To critisize his behavior and actions is one thing but to doubt his music ability is pretty dumb. Nice try Falcon

[Doc Emmett Brown]

okay D, I'm gonna re-organize your sentences into the 'I agree' bin, and the 'I dont agree' bin, and then you can quote me when CD comes out.  

I agree with:

not to mention one of the most diverse,unpredictable and greatest singer lyricist on the planet

axl will always be one of the top 10 frontmen of all time, and compare his spot to how many years he stuck around and that ratio would  put him at number 1

i dont give a fuck how much the bullshit critics try to force these other frontmen down my throat and make them the greatest just because

no one in music history is better than axl as a frontman and perfomer in my opinion

and if axl fails ill still always love him and be his biggest fan and i dont give a shit if thats wrong!

You said it all, and it's the truth in my eyes, and that's why I waste my time on this msg board.  I dont care if others dont like him, I will always have a love-hate feeling for him.


I dont agree with:

what has W Axl Rose ever done to make u doubt him?

is he not one of the greatest frontmen of all time? whether he releases another cd or not that does not in any way shape or form damage the legacy he built as being the wildest,craziest,most entertaining,maniacal,torutured,inspiring frontman of all time

no one has ever did more in less time than axl rose

when axl drops the greatest cd in the last 15 years all of you will bow down and kiss axl's ass cause he is the greatest front man,vocalist, performer of my lifetime and better than ANY frontman ive ever seen!

Well I'll be honest and say the VMA's made me doubt him.  I know he's older, but he sounded like a frail, old lady out there.    We can blame it on technical problems, say "the band sounded great", yada yada, but this was his first major comeback, and he didnt sound too hot.  I dont CARE if you dont agree, because that's how I perceived it.

Cancelling shows with no reasons offered also makes me doubt him.  Why cant he be professional?  You can defend him by saying "oh, he did on the UYI tours as well", and I will say yeah, but that only makes him look worse, not better.  That line of defense is the worst.

I'm probably the only one who didnt like his RIR statement in May.  His childish comments about Buckethead should have been private - you dont air your dirty laundry in public like that.  You idolize Axl and hate BH for it.  Me - I dont care either way.  I was never really pro-BH or anti-BH.  

I dont like the ridiculous amount of secrecy in the project. It's a fucking album, it's not national security.  He isnt guarding a nuclear missile for a rogue country.  Sometimes I believe that there are 3 albums, and sometimes I dont.  

And finally, I suspect that he doubts himself more than I do.  You can bitch at me all you want, but in my mind he doesnt release the album and he doesnt do it solo because he doubts himself.   Maybe he surrounds himself with too many 'yes-men' and so he never knows where he stands.  Maybe he doesnt.  Who the fuck knows.

[Falcon]

are u serious dude?

Yes.

1 new Axl song on a soundtrack is all we have to show from Axl in 13 years.

It's sad.

[younggunner]

Cancelling shows with no reasons offered also makes me doubt him.  Why cant he be professional?  You can defend him by saying "oh, he did on the UYI tours as well", and I will say yeah, but that only makes him look worse, not better.  That line of defense is the worst.

I'm probably the only one who didnt like his RIR statement in May.  His childish comments about Buckethead should have been private - you dont air your dirty laundry in public like that.  You idolize Axl and hate BH for it.  Me - I dont care either way.  I was never really pro-BH or anti-BH.  

I dont like the ridiculous amount of secrecy in the project. It's a fucking album, it's not national security.  He isnt guarding a nuclear missile for a rogue country.  Sometimes I believe that there are 3 albums, and sometimes I dont.  

And finally, I suspect that he doubts himself more than I do.  You can bitch at me all you want, but in my mind he doesnt release the album and he doesnt do it solo because he doubts himself.  Maybe he surrounds himself with too many 'yes-men' and so he never knows where he stands.  Maybe he doesnt.  Who the fuck knows

Except for your vmas complaint, you didnt bring up anything musically regarding Axl.

1 new Axl song on a soundtrack is all we have to show from Axl in 13 years.

It's sad.

What song did Axl release? If you were referring to  OMG it was a GNR song, not an Axl song. To my knowledge Axl has never made or released anything under his name. Unless Im missing something

GNr have given us a sample of excellent songs. And if those arent supposed to be the big guns, then we are surely in  for a very special musical journey.

[Falcon]

To critisize his behavior and actions is one thing but to doubt his music ability is pretty dumb. Nice try Falcon

I've never doubted Axl's songwriting/musical ability during his times of activity.

The mere lack of activity casts a shadow of doubt.  Hell, he's been a professional musician for nearly 20 years and has nothing to show for it (so far) for 13 of those years.

Now that's pretty dumb..

[Falcon]

What song did Axl release? If you were referring to  OMG it was a GNR song, not an Axl song. To my knowledge Axl has never made or released anything under his name. Unless Im missing something

Semantics..

What don't you understand about 1 tune in 13 years?

[D]

let me ask u a question falcon

how can u record a cd without a band?


he didnt have a set in stone band till 99, so he couldnt start recording till then

plus lets see he had a few friends die, his mother died im sure that fucked him up pretty good


axl, his voice at times did seem a little overtly screechy

but if u listen to his jungle scream opening the VMAS and his live and let die, kohd screams he still has it
i think he was singin so he wouldnt fuck his throat up for the studio

thats myopinion

[Doc Emmett Brown]

Except for your vmas complaint, you didnt bring up anything musically regarding Axl.

I dont think you read the original question, younggunner.

The question was:  "what has W Axl Rose ever done to make u doubt him?"

A lot of things as I pointed out earlier.  Furthermore, unprofessional behavior on a stadium tour counts in the musical bin.  Unprecedented secrecy regarding the album is also musically-related.

I didnt mention his wife-beating incidents and all that shit because that's not musical.  It's his personal life.  If he wants to make Stephanie poop in a litter pan, that's his problem.  

[younggunner]

I've never doubted Axl's songwriting/musical ability during his times of activity.

Um has Axl been inactive during this new era of gnr? You mean to tell me he really hasnt been in a studio in the wee hours of the night  over a long period of time? So if hes out of the spotlight hes inactive artistically?

The mere lack of activity casts a shadow of doubt.  Hell, he's been a professional musician for nearly 20 years and has nothing to show for it (so far) for 13 of those years.

Now that's pretty dumb..

Lets break it down.....

Begin at 1994. Your band is the biggest in the world. Instant success, etc. The band began to have musical differences and philosophies during that time. Even if they stayed together they wouldnt have released an album until anywhere from 97-2000.

From 94-98, old gnr was in disarray. Lawsuits and musical and philisophical differences.  That is lost time in gnr land.

That brings us to 1999-present. 2004-1999 is 5 yrs. FOr the past 5 yrs the new lineup has been working on CD and follow ups.

Its sad not dumb. Its sad that such a talented band ended quickly. But hopefully this new band will continue the legacy of gnr in thier own way. And hopefully 20 yrs from now peopel will say gnr had 2 great eras of great music. And crazy guy named axl rose involved with both.