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« on: July 07, 2004, 09:20:58 PM »

Here's a quick summary from Blabbermouth.

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On Tuesday, July 6, United States District Court Judge Gary A. Fees denied the motion of W. Axl Rose and his GUNS N' ROSES partnership for a preliminary injunction against Los Angeles-based independent record label Cleopatra Records. Rose had sought an injunction against the release of the album entitled "Hollywood Rose ? The Roots Of Guns N' Roses".

here's a link to the Blabbermouth article : http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=24498

And here's a link to the PDF of the actual court decision: http://www.blabbermouth.net/Rose_vs_Cleopatra.pdf

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2004, 09:35:04 PM »

It doesn't surprise me that Axl did not want this album to come out.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2004, 09:40:17 PM »

So much for those "Gilby Replacing Buckethead" rumors.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2004, 10:00:31 PM »

More HR publicity surely would be good for CD?
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2004, 10:05:36 PM »

More HR publicity surely would be good for CD?

Any publicity is good publicity - but damn, it definitely seems like Axl's been in the news quite a lot recently, even if some of it is definitely not by choice.

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2004, 10:15:25 PM »

Seems like Axl was trying to put the K'bosh on this thing since April...but it appears they tried a last minute injunction on 6/21, to no avail..and now the court says since it's out, it's too late, at least that's my reading of it. Judging from the poor sales of the record, I guess Axl didnt have much to worry about Tongue

Well, one legal issue down, up next: Duff and Slash v. Axl, coming in August!
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2004, 10:26:57 PM »

Its weird Axl did not win this since two of the songs (shadow of your love and anything goes) are copyrighted by guns n roses.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2004, 11:19:09 PM »

Axl is now 0-2 in his last two court cases.....wonder if he is gonna hit the trifecta in August against Slash & Duff? So much for that theory that Axl's invincible in the court room. nervous
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2004, 11:34:38 PM »

Axl is now 0-2 in his last two court cases.....wonder if he is gonna hit the trifecta in August against Slash & Duff? So much for that theory that Axl's invincible in the court room. nervous
It's fair to say Axl is in quite a slump at the plate.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2004, 11:38:38 PM »

Hopefully we will see axl's defense on how he control guns n roses. Maybe the infamous contract he made the band sign will come up.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2004, 11:45:09 PM »

i previewed the hollywood rose cd out walmart and holy shit its unlistenable

thank god axl improved cause that shit is garbage!

if i was axl id want it never to see the light of day as well

i was almost embarrassed standin there listening to that shit and i dont ever get embarrassed
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2004, 12:01:09 AM »

i previewed the hollywood rose cd out walmart and holy shit its unlistenable

thank god axl improved cause that shit is garbage!

if i was axl id want it never to see the light of day as well

i was almost embarrassed standin there listening to that shit and i dont ever get embarrassed

Ha. Didn't like, huh D? To each their own...but regarding Axl's legal 'slump', let's face it, he hasn't had much of a great case in either of these....and the next one doesn't look promising either (based on my readin of it, which is defiently a layman's opinion). But as long as Axl holds control of the NAME without any problems, then there isn't any real big problem here (I hope).
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2004, 12:03:17 AM »

i previewed the hollywood rose cd out walmart and holy shit its unlistenable

thank god axl improved cause that shit is garbage!


Not true, the first 5 tracks are good. Considering its age and its was a rough and rare demo take you got to admit it sounds good and Axl's voice sounds kool. Walmart plays craps sound file bites
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2004, 07:37:35 AM »

On Tuesday, July 6, United States District Court Judge Gary A. Fees denied the motion of W. Axl Rose and his GUNS N' ROSES partnership for a preliminary injunction against Los Angeles-based independent record label Cleopatra Records. Rose had sought an injunction against the release of the album entitled "Hollywood Rose ? The Roots Of Guns N' Roses".

In early June, Rose sued Cleopatra Records for trademark infringement, violation of rights in his name and likeness, and for unfair competition. The singer was trying to prevent the label from releasing original HOLLYWOOD ROSE recordings from early 1984. HOLLYWOOD ROSE is the band Roseformed with Izzy Stradlin, Chris Weber and Johnny Kreis before Rose and Stradlin went on to become part of the biggest rock 'n' roll band in the world, GUNS N' ROSES.

The five original tracks were purchased by Cleopatra from guitarist Chris Weber, who performed on the record and who paid for the recordings back in 1984. On June 22, 2004, Deadline Music, a label of Cleopatra Records, released the original five songs with added remixes by former GUNS N' ROSES axeman Gilby Clarke and CINDERELLA drummer Fred Coury.

The decision of the United States District Court can be downloaded as a PDF file at this location (1 MB).

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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2004, 09:53:41 AM »

Well, one legal issue down, up next: Duff and Slash v. Axl, coming in August!

Interesting bit in that HR pdf:

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When Defendants and Counter-claimants Guns N' Roses, along with individual performers  Axl Rose, Saul Hudson ("Slash"), and Michael McKagan (collectively referred to througout as GNR on Guns N' Roses) learned of the album's title, they objected to the release of the album.

Later on, at least Slash is mentioned as a defendant. The defendants are listed as Axl et al, meaning Slash and Duff might've had a hand in this thing as well.
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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2004, 10:00:57 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2004, 10:03:31 AM »

The best thing Axl could do now is to swallow his pride, just pick up the phone and speak to Slash and Duff - appologise and come to an agreement in which they all contain some control to the GNR back catalogue.  Otherwise he could lose all control really couldn't he?
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2004, 10:20:38 AM »

Here's an AP article on the Judge's decision.  http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/9103496.htm?1c

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There was no telephone listing for Rose and he could not be reached for comment.

That's just... well, funny.

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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2004, 10:27:58 AM »

Kind of funny thinking about how pissed Axl gets when he loses a court case!
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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2004, 11:29:25 AM »

So Slash, Duff, and Axl as a team are 0-for-2? Sounds like Axl has a good shot against the two of them.
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